I fail to see how Rage is worth it...

By Kdubb, in X-Wing

Outside of use on Tycho, and maybe Wired A-wings. I just can't see how this card is any good at all. It falls into the same territory as the rest of the awful action based EPTs.

Yes, you get a really powerful re-roll ability, but with an INCREDIBLE downside. You will get no action the next turn, and are limited on your movement for at least 2 turns. I guess it works with Prockets ok? But outside of that...

And it costs a point! I thought for sure it would be free with that incredible downside!

So please, lets see if you can convince me otherwise.

It's not worth it, unless you can mitigate the downside. But you can do that with 4-LOM, Tycho, Epsilon Leader, Advanced Sensors, Keyan, Wingman, and probably a whole bunch of other things I'm not considering at the moment.

EDIT: And of course no one expects Raging Porkins!

Edited by Vorpal Sword

It's not worth it, unless you can mitigate the downside. But you can do that with 4-LOM, Tycho, Epsilon Leader, Advanced Sensors, Keyan, Wingman, and probably a whole bunch of other things I'm not considering at the moment.

I guess that is the route they are taking with action based upgrades. They are niche, and niche only it seems. Which, I guess isn't awful.

Rage goes really good with so many things.

Rexler Brath, rage, mark 2 engine, evade title.

That's a triple action Rexy, who is being assigned evade tokens at high speed on the off turns. For the same price as a regular, naked Rexler.

It seems to be alright on scum ships with a crew slot. You could use rage then while you do some green manuvers the next couple of turns to clear the stress rely on k4 to give you TL so you wont be missing your action entirely. Even if you dont like k4 and Rage together alot of scum ships dont need their actions to be successful and have decent enough dials where taking an elite upgrade like rage with its stress downside isnt a huge deal because other cards and/or abilities can make up for the loss (ex. Glitterstim,Bossk crew, Zuckuss crew,4-Lom pilot).

Edited by Evenflow30

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Yes its 2 stress but it also works like a limited PTL that gives you Focus and Target Lock (that you can use on any target) for only 1 point.

Try

Epsilon Leader

Youngster with Rage

Mauler Mithel with VI

Scourge with VI

Black Squadron with Wingman

Academy

99 points

See in Not Another Squad Builder

Even if the synergy breaks down you still have a 6 Tie swarm with 2 PS9's and some nice abilities and no one costs more than 19 points so not a big loss when you lose a few.

Edited by pickirk01

EDIT: And of course no one expects Raging Porkins!

I could kiss you, that's so fantastic.

Edited by Biophysical

I'm trying to wrap my brain around this card too.

But look at it this way:

Predator costs 3 points to reroll 1 die (occasionally 2).

Rage costs 1 point and 2 stress to reroll 3 dice.

You can take a focus token through your action either way.

Rage is further balanced by not being usable every turn (without outside stress relief).

In comparison with Predator...it almost seems too cheap?

It can work with Keyan if he has the B-wing/E2 title and Kanan as a crew member.

Can work with Chewbacca or Lando with both Kanan and Ezra as crew.

How about this?

Keyan Farlander (29)
Rage (1)
Accuracy Corrector (3)
Hera Syndulla (1)
B-Wing/E2 (1)

Total: 35

You'll never get less than 2 hits, sometimes you can use stressfocus to get more, you always have your entire dial, and occasionally you may reroll 3 dice.

Okay, you'll reroll 3 dice once. Then you will be competing with Tycho for the highest stack of stress tokens.

Edited by rhs2042

In comparison with Predator...it almost seems too cheap?

Yea, I think so too. Wouldn't have blinked if it was 2 points.

On top of Keyan, I'll also just throw Wingman out there to say 'hi'.

Tycho Celchu is the answer to your question, OP.

As with PTL, it's super-good, but requires specific ship and upgrades to work reliably.

Rage (98)

Tycho Celchu (35) - A-Wing

Rage (1), Proton Rockets (3), A-Wing Test Pilot (0), Autothrusters (2), Push The Limit (3)

Keyan Farlander (33) - B-Wing

Rage (1), Advanced Sensors (3)

Jek Porkins (30) - X-Wing

Rage (1), R2 Astromech (1), Flechette Torpedoes (2), Integrated Astromech (0)

Farlander + Rage looks really promising. Remember that he can spend Stress even if he doesn't modify anything to do so. So if he rolls all hits/blanks, rerolls and still has some blanks he can _still spend a stress token_. And he'll have a focus token for defense.

And as long as he doesn't pull a red manuver next turn, he still has a stress token to spend. Farlander _loves_ this card.

Also! Tycho + Procket loves Rage. You get the Focus token you need to fire the missile, and the rerolls you need to make the missile accurate.

The biggest downside to this card is that it doesn't synergize with either of the Darths, or the Inquisitor- the Darkside should be fueled by rage.

Youngster + rage

7x Academy pilot

Anything at range 1 will die. 8 TIE's that at the oppertune moment can focus and 'targetlock'.... good game.

Just dont start spamming it. Wait for it, wait for it. Range 1/2 unload and watch stuff get wrecked. Its a poor mans Howlrunner but with triple range and nets you an additional ship!!! IMO this upgrade will make swarms insane.

Rage goes really good with so many things.

Rexler Brath, rage, mark 2 engine, evade title.

That's a triple action Rexy, who is being assigned evade tokens at high speed on the off turns. For the same price as a regular, naked Rexler.

Once per game maybe... Defenders hate stress and have difficulty shedding it.

Rage (98)

Tycho Celchu (35) - A-Wing

Rage (1), Proton Rockets (3), A-Wing Test Pilot (0), Autothrusters (2), Push The Limit (3)

Keyan Farlander (33) - B-Wing

Rage (1), Advanced Sensors (3)

Jek Porkins (30) - X-Wing

Rage (1), R2 Astromech (1), Flechette Torpedoes (2), Integrated Astromech (0)

Keyan would really like Jan Ors

Youngster + rage

7x Academy pilot

Anything at range 1 will die. 8 TIE's that at the oppertune moment can focus and 'targetlock'.... good game.

Just dont start spamming it. Wait for it, wait for it. Range 1/2 unload and watch stuff get wrecked. Its a poor mans Howlrunner but with triple range and nets you an additional ship!!! IMO this upgrade will make swarms insane.

Stop trying to make Youngster happen, it's not going to happen.

it is burst. I can see maybe Talonbane with glitterstim to handle the 2nd round of stress or maybe playing with wingman, or to instant boost the Moldy Crow's focus battery.

It works but doubile stress is rather unexplored design space other than control for your opponent. Stress meta is growing and mostly it is stress is a bad thing however I like to see more mechanics like Farlander that turns stress into a resource. I think we might be getting more of that than just the typical stress multiplier and stress sinks.

Youngster + rage

7x Academy pilot

Anything at range 1 will die. 8 TIE's that at the oppertune moment can focus and 'targetlock'.... good game.

Just dont start spamming it. Wait for it, wait for it. Range 1/2 unload and watch stuff get wrecked. Its a poor mans Howlrunner but with triple range and nets you an additional ship!!! IMO this upgrade will make swarms insane.

Stop trying to make Youngster happen, it's not going to happen.

An 8 Tie swarm is strong and if you have the potential to upgrade their firepower significantly it is very strong. Rage just made Youngster the Howlrunner of its erra.

This is finally an action ability with minimal cost and high potential.

ITS HAPPENING!!!

(I would agree with you pre-Rage, but man, double action economy for an entire swarm at range 1-3 for 16 pts.... yeah, gimme some arguments how this will not be staple in non character swarms)

I'm trying to wrap my brain around this card too.

But look at it this way:

Predator costs 3 points to reroll 1 die (occasionally 2).

Rage costs 1 point and 2 stress to reroll 3 dice.

You can take a focus token through your action either way.

Rage is further balanced by not being usable every turn (without outside stress relief).

In comparison with Predator...it almost seems too cheap?

Farlander say no and shut it!!