And we thought Esege was broken in Epic...

By chilligan, in X-Wing

As the next expansion to be revealed is probably going to be the Scum Epic ship, I would like to take a moment and look at the combos that are extra Scummy ( :)) in Epic.

  • Zuckuss (1pt - crew) -- Epic ships are unaffected by stress tokens, discarding them immediately. For *every* attack, you will be able to take as many stress tokens as there are dice and potentially make your opponent reroll all of them. This is HUGE, almost to the point that I think that they will FAQ this as soon as Scum Epic is released.
  • Dengar (3pt - crew) -- Got aces in Epic? Dengar will take care of them. Right now, with an Epic ship you have to spread your fire a bit, because you only have 2 TL tokens at most (and probably 2 focus to use from Esege). There's also Jonus for the Imperials to tag along, but guess what? Dengar does everything Jonus does for the Raider, but works for primary weapon attacks as well!
  • Latts Razzi (YV-666 pilot) + Targeting Coordinator -- Help Latts take a TL at range 5+ (5 from you) at the cost of 1 energy, get a shot against your target at -1 agility.
  • Bobba Fett (1pt - crew) -- too many hardpoints on the enemy huge ship? Bobba Fett's on the job! Honestly I think this card will make a greater impact at 100pts, but he's still interesting at 300points and above.
Edited by chilligan

Boba removing the Ordnance Tube modification would be...

Makes me wonder is Scum huge is happening? Maybe won't have any crew slots?

Great, now all we need is an epic scum ship. I want Jabbas Star Jewel. With a Scyck fix, preferably. although that one also would be nice in a Veterans box.

if you declared someone at range the target of a turbolaser and then used latts' ability would it subtract the agility prior to them doubling it from the turbo? Effectively making her ability subtract two agility in that case?

Boba removing the Ordnance Tube modification would be...

Makes me wonder is Scum huge is happening? Maybe won't have any crew slots?

Nah, there's already precedent for removing 'slots' mid game... oh snap, I just realized you're talking about the second half of the card that prevents the ordnance from being spent. Heck yeah that might be a smidge OP.

Also it's irrelevant whether the Epic ship has crew slots (it really needs to have them to fit Jabba in there), you can still put Boba on a small/large ship in epic play as soon as wave 8 is out...

Edited by imprezagoatee

I'm not sure Scum will get an Epic ship. Mind you, I said this about the Empire because they (at the time) did not have a ship small enough to fit the scale. Rebels (Imperial Carrier) and FFG (by making up the Raider) fixed this.

The Wild Card would be a popular addition, but would look like this:

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Boba removing the Ordnance Tube modification would be...

Makes me wonder is Scum huge is happening? Maybe won't have any crew slots?

OOoops

one more shot per card :D

I think Boba Fett crew will get the Biggs errata treatment for interacting with Huge ships.

Gonk on a huge would be nice.

Scum shouldn't really get a huge warship. I mean, they weren't an official navy or government. Lots of places wouldn't allow their ships to dock. Then, again, they could have an old ship decked out with lots of offense as an illegal pirate ship. So....maybe it would be OK?

It would be interesting to come up with some sort of Epic Scum. It shouldn't be as good as the others, but should also be cheaper.

Scum shouldn't really get a huge warship. I mean, they weren't an official navy or government. Lots of places wouldn't allow their ships to dock. Then, again, they could have an old ship decked out with lots of offense as an illegal pirate ship. So....maybe it would be OK?

It would be interesting to come up with some sort of Epic Scum. It shouldn't be as good as the others, but should also be cheaper.

But we don't really have any huge warships. In my opinion ships in the Raider/Tantive/Gonzanti range fit well into a pirate fleet as command ships.

I wouldn't worry about scum epic.

As the next expansion to be revealed is probably going to be the Scum Epic ship,

what exactly makes you say that...

As the next expansion to be revealed is probably going to be the Scum Epic ship,

what exactly makes you say that...

A Scum huge is coming soon-ish AFAIK. I think some FFG guy was asked about it at either Gencon or Worlds and the answer was (paraphrasing): Well, Rebels have 2, Imperials have 2 so you can draw a conclusion from there.

That being said, I do expect quite a few of the new Scum crew to be errata-ed to 'doesn't affect huge ships'

Scum shouldn't really get a huge warship. I mean, they weren't an official navy or government. Lots of places wouldn't allow their ships to dock. Then, again, they could have an old ship decked out with lots of offense as an illegal pirate ship. So....maybe it would be OK?

It would be interesting to come up with some sort of Epic Scum. It shouldn't be as good as the others, but should also be cheaper.

The Hutts have a grand unified Navy and many private (individually run) military factions.

the_hutt_fleet_by_wraithdt-d4v5heb.jpg

As the next expansion to be revealed is probably going to be the Scum Epic ship,

what exactly makes you say that...

A Scum huge is coming soon-ish AFAIK. I think some FFG guy was asked about it at either Gencon or Worlds and the answer was (paraphrasing): Well, Rebels have 2, Imperials have 2 so you can draw a conclusion from there.

That being said, I do expect quite a few of the new Scum crew to be errata-ed to 'doesn't affect huge ships'

Well the ruling for Esege was FOR using focus tokens on Epic ship, which I thought was kinda sketchy, I'm pretty sure they will leave semi-broken cards as they are. Remember that at some point they didn't allow Gunner either, but now it's just Biggs' ability, the only one which is really over the top.

As the next expansion to be revealed is probably going to be the Scum Epic ship,

what exactly makes you say that...

They basically hinted in an interview that 2 factions have 2 Huge ships each and that they have to right this wrong.

Scum shouldn't really get a huge warship.

None of the ships at the X-Wing level are overly large. If anything, the belief that a ship as small as the YT-11300 is a profitable cargo transport is more questionable, lol. Some of the largest ships at sea right now are privately owned.

Scum shouldn't really get a huge warship.

None of the ships at the X-Wing level are overly large. If anything, the belief that a ship as small as the YT-11300 is a profitable cargo transport is more questionable, lol. Some of the largest ships at sea right now are privately owned.

Yay so Zuckuss sound like a good card to try with my GR-75 conversion kit.

Scum shouldn't really get a huge warship.

None of the ships at the X-Wing level are overly large. If anything, the belief that a ship as small as the YT-11300 is a profitable cargo transport is more questionable, lol. Some of the largest ships at sea right now are privately owned.
It is very conceivable that small transports have a niche. Think of the Falcon as the Cutty Sark of space trade.

I think of YT-1300/2400 more as the big rigs of Star Wars - many privately owned, but can be contracted out for private hauls (especially under the table) or owned by big conglomerates.

Scum shouldn't really get a huge warship. I mean, they weren't an official navy or government. Lots of places wouldn't allow their ships to dock. Then, again, they could have an old ship decked out with lots of offense as an illegal pirate ship. So....maybe it would be OK?

It would be interesting to come up with some sort of Epic Scum. It shouldn't be as good as the others, but should also be cheaper.

Edited by Ralgon

Scum shouldn't really get a huge warship. I mean, they weren't an official navy or government. Lots of places wouldn't allow their ships to dock. Then, again, they could have an old ship decked out with lots of offense as an illegal pirate ship. So....maybe it would be OK?

It would be interesting to come up with some sort of Epic Scum. It shouldn't be as good as the others, but should also be cheaper.

Your missing some quotes of Ep1 plus clone wars series - namedly Hutt controlled space - how do you control space without capital ships?

I was initially excited about the prospect of Zuckuss on a Scum epic ship, but the wording and order of operations on the card suggests to me that it doesn't work if you can't take the stress.