Bossk : Anyone played the man ? (the lizard ?)

By MoffZen, in Star Wars: Armada

Just wanted to know if anyone had feedback playing Bossk ! I haven't seen him discussed much since Wave 2 released due to how popular Dengar is, but I feel that he has potential with his 4 black dice, 1B1Bl anti-ship and special ability, 7 hull and double Brace. He seems Relentless.

I was wanting to try him in a game along with Boba Fett.

I've used Bossk as a sponge for my Raider's Ruthless Strategists. The Raider softens up the squads with A/S fire and RS fire, and Bossk starts shooting.

I'm a fan. I've recently used him as part of a token (sub-67) point "blocking" force. 7 hull / 4 black sqd dice lends some heft to a predominantly TIE Fighter flimsy screen.

I played with him in my sullust game back in October. he was super fun. I had a counter 4 blob which mopped up opposing squadrons and let Bossk use his rogue to drop pretty reliable damage on whatever hull zone I planned to hit first thing next turn.

He was pretty fun, and I'm planning to pull him out again after store championship season. Lots of good thoughts in those posts up there ^^^^^

Just wanted to know if anyone had feedback playing Bossk ! I haven't seen him discussed much since Wave 2 released due to how popular Dengar is, but I feel that he has potential with his 4 black dice, 1B1Bl anti-ship and special ability, 7 hull and double Brace. He seems Relentless.

I was wanting to try him in a game along with Boba Fett.

I've tried him a couple of times. Wasn't that impressed. The free accuracy is nice against Aces, but unless that Ace is IG-88 or Bossk, they'll have a Brace available. Bossk doesn't roll blue dice, so he's not getting that second accuracy. Speaking of accuracies, Bossk doesn't have double Brace. He has a single Brace. Which means he's probably not using that Brace against squadrons that roll 4 blue dice and against squadrons that roll 3 blue dice, there is no difference between 3 hits and 2 hits + 1 accuracy.

Black dice are nice. 50% more firepower than a blue dice. So when Bossk rolls, he should be getting 3 damage. Nice. But is that 1 point of damage nicer than what you could get for the same points cost, when taking into account the negatives above? I don't think so.

I tried him for a game or two alongside IG-88 and Dengar (because wave 2).

Dude hits like a mac truck and will get a lot of attention. He's only got a single brace, though. And he's expensive and he HATES getting zapped by Dutch :(.

Good catch about the single Brace, I quite forgot about it :)

Did anyone had the chance to use his free Acc against ships ? Negating the Redirects or the Brace on a blue/black sounded interesting.

Good catch about the single Brace, I quite forgot about it :)

Did anyone had the chance to use his free Acc against ships ? Negating the Redirects or the Brace on a blue/black sounded interesting.

Interesting. The times I ran him were as part of a very small anit-squad screen. Never had a chance to use him against ships, didn't consider the accuracy for that.

The free accuracy is nice against Aces, but unless that Ace is IG-88 or Bossk, they'll have a Brace available.

Brace is fine, Brace can still smack a 3-hull Fighter for 2 Damage points.... Rather than avoiding it entirely.

That adds Howlrunner, Mauler, Soontir to the list... Which in itself is not terrible.

For the rest, yeah, its more about brace control... He's not your opening attack, he's your second or third, after you're already forcing them to use braces other ways..... Same as when a ship has ECM - your massive hitter should be second to your Big hitter... So your Big draws out the ECM'd brace.

Personally, I prefer to compare Bossk to Vader. Roughly the same points cost (23 v 21) and they can perform the same roles (anti-squadron with AS capabilities.)

Bossk

Speed: 3 Hull: 7 Squad: BBBB Ship:UB Def: Brace

Vader

Speed: 4 Hull: 5 Squad: UUUB Ship:B Def: Brace Brace

Speed - Vader.

Hull - Tie. Their hull values, despite looking in Bossk's favor, are actually about the same. Against single pinging attacks, say from Ships, Bossk's hull holds up better. Against squadrons, though, Vader's ability to actually use his Brace gives him a bit of extra hull that Bossk won't get. I can math it out, but it looks like a wash, possibly in Vader's favor.

Anti-Squadron - Vader. Bossk does BBBB, which 0.75*4 = 3 damage. Vader's ability let's him count crits. That brings the average damage of his blue dice to 0.75 and his black dice to 1. So 3*0.75 + 1 = 3.25 damage. Additionally, while Bossk's accuracy is nice for locking down an Evade, his black dice pool means he'll never lock down all of an Ace's defense tokens. (sans IG and Bossk).

Anti-Ship - Bossk. Vader can deal 1 damage with his ability. Bossk isn't a bomber, but does get more dice for a total of 1.25 damage and probably has that free accuracy.

So I guess it depends on what you want Bossk for. Vader seems to win out in the anti-squadron role, with superior speed and firepower, but Bossk is a bit better at anti-ship.

And definitely play it out. There's so many possibilities in Armada, it's fun to try a whole bunch of different things.

Edited by Valca

Don't forget the scort! It makes Vader easy to focus

I've used him. My observations are as follows:

  • Moves without commands (like a Bossk)
  • Tanks for Ruthless Strategists (like a Bossk)
  • Murders small squadrons (like a Bossk)
  • Great fighting aces (like a Bossk)
  • Expensive for what he does (like a Bossk)

So I like him, but I don't love him. He is good, but I'd rather have Vader, or if I just want to kill squadrons and want rogue, IG-88. 7 HP is a lot, though.

I've used him. My observations are as follows:

  • Moves without commands (like a Bossk)
  • Tanks for Ruthless Strategists (like a Bossk)
  • Murders small squadrons (like a Bossk)
  • Great fighting aces (like a Bossk)
  • Expensive for what he does (like a Bossk)

So I like him, but I don't love him. He is good, but I'd rather have Vader, or if I just want to kill squadrons and want rogue, IG-88. 7 HP is a lot, though.

You just described Han (like a Bossk)

I've used him. My observations are as follows:

  • Moves without commands (like a Bossk)
  • Tanks for Ruthless Strategists (like a Bossk)
  • Murders small squadrons (like a Bossk)
  • Great fighting aces (like a Bossk)
  • Expensive for what he does (like a Bossk)

So I like him, but I don't love him. He is good, but I'd rather have Vader, or if I just want to kill squadrons and want rogue, IG-88. 7 HP is a lot, though.

You just described Han (like a Bossk)

I love Han. Not that this is the point of this thread, but I couldn't resist.

I thought about Bossk in a Ruthless Strategist build, so glad to see it's been successful elsewhere.

I think what is keeping Bossk from seeing more games is that he is a loner. Apart from using his truck for ruthless strategists he does not synergize well - in fact, all his abilities only help him, and he is missing some keywords to capitalize on the buffs from other imperial aces. Contrary to vader he also does not escort anybody, so the only way he sees play in my games is with a token squadron force of guys all having rogue, all being loners and with little to no synergy other than "you punch that guy I punch his friend!"