So what's the best EPT for them you think?

On Poe:

I tried Predator on Poe, i like it, the extra reroll gives more chance to use his ability or just get hit's.

VI is nice, but just in 1 game i really wanted VI, else i'm fine without it.

PTL is nice, but makes you predictable with next move

On Corran:

Predator, tried it, it's wasted if you take FCS. But nice for first shot, but think it's gets overpriced then.

VI same as with Poe, just 1 game i wanted it. Maybe i don't see the use out of it vs Aces, but can be nice i assume.

PTL again, same problem like with Poe, too predictable next move, yes nice, you get extra action, but opponent can predict where you go next with that stress.

Whats nice left:

Lone Wolf: But looks like you want to spread a lot your ships to benefit from it.

Outmaneuver - Can work, but vs aces it's harder.

Opportunist - rare cases enemy does not have tokens

So anyone has any combo? Any tips what's bets, any experience and what's feels best?

EI and Marksmanship deserves a mention for Corran.

EI and Marksmanship deserves a mention for Corran.

But not much of one: FCS covers that utility for 4 fewer points.

I like FCS, PTL and R2-D2 on Corran. Yes it makes you predictable but it also means you pack a big wallop the turn you trigger it, hopefully big enough to take out a juicy target which will cut down on the retaliation he will face.

Put APTs on him for his second shot if you really want to make sure your target is 50 shades of dead. This might also require EU to ensure range 1 which makes him very expensive. But you will have a regenerating ace with a pretty good dial, boost and barrel roll. Also in a single turn he can attack with 4 red dice (quite possibly TL'ed) and then follow up with a nearly guaranteed 5 hits from the APTs.

That should drop most small-based ships in one turn or take a big chunk out of larger vessels. Next turn he goes green to clear stress, recharge his guns and regen his shields.

If you are using PTL on either of those guys you should be taking something that allows you to trigger PTL before you move so you can instantly clear the stress with a green maneuver. For Corran that is Advanced Sensors and it's BB-8 for Poe. You never end the activation with a stress from PTL so your dial remains open for the following round.

Calculation Poe

Veteran Instincts.

Veteran Instincts.

You did read where the OP said he did not have much use for it in the past?

Veteran Instincts.

You did read where the OP said he did not have much use for it in the past?

I did, and in my experience there's no real alternative to VI, yet.

The PS race is still going strong and Whisper will happily eat your PS 8 Corran/Poe, any day of the week.

For my part, it's Lonewolf on Poe for the extra survivability. But it does indead need more planning to use effectively. If LW doesn't coincide with my strategy, then Predator works too. If I use BB8 instead of R5-P9, then it's PtL all the way.

For Corran, I'm not sure I ever used him, but I went against him very (too) often and I hate him even more when he has PtL.

There is no single right or wrong or best or worst. It's entirely dependent on the rest of your list, the local meta you play in, and what you feel like using. There are a lot of really good options. It's about finding a good setup that works for your situation.

Thanks for the input

EI and Marksmanship deserves a mention for Corran.

But not much of one: FCS covers that utility for 4 fewer points.

And your Poes are still flying...? I tried all from the 3 (VI, PtL, Pred) and in my experience only VI makes job done right.

1) PtL

a)with BB8, pretty nice, 3 action combo but no regen, and if you ever have to make K-turn or T-roll you are stuck with no BB8 and PtL for 2 turns (red on dial>no bb8 1 turn>stress>no bb8 second turn>no ptl second turn).

b) without BB8 you are stuck to those green 1s and then PTL eye+boost or eye+tl if your in a nice spot. Too predicable in some cases...at least you can regen.

2)Predator

Ok you can reroll. But hey what are you shooting at? 4 green die phantom? Vader and Fel out of arc? Another Poe/Miranda/Boba puts salvo up your ass first? In current meta like someone mentioned its PS race. There are too many ships that can screw you just by moving last.

3) VI

Free adjustment with boost if needed. Shoots before phantoms cloak. Imp Aces needs to maneuver in blind. In desperate 1v1 situations you can just TL and hope to destroy this PS9 ace on your tvelve before he can shoot back. Plus its 2 points cheaper.

Seriously VI is just most versatile. Pred and PtL have their moments but VI wins in tournament overall.

For Corran that would depend on build:

For hyper-ultra-mega-48-points corran (PtL,FCS,EU,R2) i would take PtL to be able to arc dodge with BR/boost or turtle with evade/eye on more budget, just FCS/R2 Corran, i would take VI for the same reasons as above: BR adjustments and shooting first.

I've had some luck with Juke on Corran since it kicks in on both shots and adds a little defense. Still, I think VI or PTL are probably the best overall choices for him.

I'm not a fan of predator on Horn unless you've gone with advanced sensors instead of FCS.

Veteran Instincts.

You did read where the OP said he did not have much use for it in the past?

I did, and in my experience there's no real alternative to VI, yet.

The PS race is still going strong and Whisper will happily eat your PS 8 Corran/Poe, any day of the week.

YMMV: Your Meta May Vary. I know that at my most recent Store Champs, for every match I would have preferred Crack Shot instead of VI on my Boba. I either was against lower PS than 8 or lost initiative at 10. We get occasional Palpy Aces but our meta is mostly TLT, Regenerating, or non-netdeck. Other EPT are always worth looking at.

I love Juke on Poe, if fitting Jan Ors somewhere is possible.

Though, every time I start a list with Poe, I tell myself "I'll make it possible".

Determination as insurance?

I might try Rage on Corran. You would only use it when you plan on a double tap. For the stress you can run Electronic Baffle...

Corran Horn (35)
Rage (1)
Electronic Baffle (1)
R2-D2 (4)
Engine Upgrade (4)

Total: 45

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Not competitive really, but could be fun.

I think Rage is a solid contender for Corran Horn. But I'd rather use Advanced Sensors than Baffle. It's more versatile and you can Advance Sensor to Rage, then do a green maneuver, so you only have 1 stress, and are free to clear stress next turn when you can't shoot.

I think Rage is a solid contender for Corran Horn. But I'd rather use Advanced Sensors than Baffle. It's more versatile and you can Advance Sensor to Rage, then do a green maneuver, so you only have 1 stress, and are free to clear stress next turn when you can't shoot.

Agreed. With Rage you don't need to run FCS at all and you can actually switch your target and still have modifiers with the double tap. Advanced Sensors is probably the better option. I've had the scenario many times where I killed my target with my initial shot and then I had another juicy target at range 1. So I double tap, but with no modifiers and my dice completely whiff.

What about Accuracy corrector on Corran? Yes it's just 2hits, but guaranteed 2 hits. But maybe TL is better.

For me, VI on Corran, along with R2-D2, FCS, and Shield upgrade.

For Poe, Predator, R5-P9, integrated astromech.

Then just add a prototype pilot, with Chardaan refit and autothusters for a nice 100 points.

EI and Marksmanship deserves a mention for Corran.

But not much of one: FCS covers that utility for 4 fewer points.

I don't see how. If anything, they complement each other; fCS gives you a target lock to re-roll blanks while Marksmanship lets you turn those focus results into a hits and a crit. Plus they can both be used for the double-tap turn.

If you think your going to face aces list soontir vader take VI on Corran your going to need it.

Engine upgrade and advanced sensors. Best set up

Not super aggressive but will survive a lot.

at least engine upgrade and VI, maybe FCS for more punch.