Feelings after facing Rieekan...

By MoffZen, in Star Wars: Armada

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Frustrating as hell, but such a new feeling :D

What were your lists?

As a game starved newbie, I want to absorb as much knowledge as possible! ^_^

Lots of named squadrons, Corvettes B SW-7s. AF a with GH RS EA EH

What were your lists?

As a game starved newbie, I want to absorb as much knowledge as possible! ^_^

What were your lists?

As a game starved newbie, I want to absorb as much knowledge as possible! ^_^

Watch Armada Tactics News BDA reports?
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Yes they are a good resource to Learn from

What were your lists?

As a game starved newbie, I want to absorb as much knowledge as possible! ^_^

Watch Armada Tactics News BDA reports?
Shamless Self promotion is Shameless :P

Yes they are a good resource to Learn from

I applaud content creators, and a shameless plug is funny and useful once in a while, but he does it in *every* thread.

He's at 18.72 posts per day currently. I get it that he's passionate, but that's just spam. Very rarely do I find his posts to actually contribute to the topic. I am seriously considering using the ignore list, although I'd hate to do it.

/rant

@OP: Rieekan is cool in very new ways. The key moment was when I realized it works for squadrons too, and not getting squadrons off the board hinders the squadron game a lot. There are many games where killing a ship before it activates is a game-winner, or at least shifts the game in your favor immensely.

What were your lists?

As a game starved newbie, I want to absorb as much knowledge as possible! ^_^

Watch Armada Tactics News BDA reports?
Shamless Self promotion is Shameless :P

Yes they are a good resource to Learn from

I applaud content creators, and a shameless plug is funny and useful once in a while, but he does it in *every* thread.

He's at 18.72 posts per day currently. I get it that he's passionate, but that's just spam. Very rarely do I find his posts to actually contribute to the topic. I am seriously considering using the ignore list, although I'd hate to do

In Lyraeus' defense, those 19 posts a day are not even nearly all self-promotion--definitely not spam. He contributes a lot to the community, both here and, apparently, his local one. And the reason he posts his videos in a lot of threads is because he has videos covering a lot of commonly-asked questions. I'm not saying he doesn't do it more than is probably necessary, but it's hardly every thread, and it's rarely not germane to the conversation.

Sure he can be abrasive and seems to have a pretty high opinion of himself, but I can't fault him for that: the same is true of me, and probably most of us if we're being honest.

He also gets a TON of ****, mostly because he's easy to get riled up. :)

What were your lists?

As a game starved newbie, I want to absorb as much knowledge as possible! ^_^

Watch Armada Tactics News BDA reports?

He's at 18.72 posts per day currently. I get it that he's passionate, but that's just spam. Very rarely do I find his posts to actually contribute to the topic. I am seriously considering using the ignore list, although I'd hate to do

In Lyraeus' defense, those 19 posts a day are not even nearly all self-promotion--definitely not spam. He contributes a lot to the community, both here and, apparently, his local one. And the reason he posts his videos in a lot of threads is because he has videos covering a lot of commonly-asked questions. I'm not saying he doesn't do it more than is probably necessary, but it's hardly every thread, and it's rarely not germane to the conversation.

Sure he can be abrasive and seems to have a pretty high opinion of himself, but I can't fault him for that: the same is true of me, and probably most of us if we're being honest.

He also gets a TON of ****, mostly because he's easy to get riled up. :)

Please show me how the above post is germane to the conversation. It's akin to replying "you should read more statistics books" to people asking about dice probabilities in Armada. It's not contributing to the conversation at all. And sure, I exaggerate a bit when talking about *every* thread, but my point stands. Just look at the above or remember all the Naval Intelligence Predictions posts.

Sorry for derailing the thread, I'll stop now.

So, Rieekan's list was a full Ramming list with 8 CR90Bs, 6 of them with Engine Techs, one naked, one with Rieekaan.

His idea was, well, to throw multiple double rams with Engine Techs per enemy ship :P

It's vulnerable to small ships that can get away, but Riekaan allowing to trigger that Engine Tech after being destroyed for one extra ram is annoying :P

I could have deployed better for sure, I can't wait to take it down ! :D

I am currently hearing Benny Hill music in my head while picturing that fleet "plotting" courses.

Neat idea, though. I guess it would be pretty hard to burn them all down. And even if the opponent takes speedsters, those all usually have about four hull. If he can pull off four rams a turn, that's a dead ship. Yikes.

Please show me how the above post is germane to the conversation. It's akin to replying "you should read more statistics books" to people asking about dice probabilities in Armada. It's not contributing to the conversation at all. And sure, I exaggerate a bit when talking about *every* thread, but my point stands. Just look at the above or remember all the Naval Intelligence Predictions posts.

Sorry for derailing the thread, I'll stop now.

Someone said they were looking to absorb as much information as possible.

Lyraeus cited a source of information.

The example is more like someone asking to get as much information about how probability works, and Lyraeus handed them his book on statistics.

Perfectly reasonable in this case. Even if it wasn't, his post wouldn't have been that offensive.

I am currently hearing Benny Hill music in my head while picturing that fleet "plotting" courses.

Neat idea, though. I guess it would be pretty hard to burn them all down. And even if the opponent takes speedsters, those all usually have about four hull. If he can pull off four rams a turn, that's a dead ship. Yikes.

I played a Corvette ram list at Worlds (so not Rieekan, obviously) even though he was doing 50% damage to himself, he almost took out a Vic II on turn 1. He did 7 damage to it. :/

(Fleet Ambush is why he was close enough.)

That is...hilarious...and cheesy all in the same run...

I am currently hearing Benny Hill music in my head while picturing that fleet "plotting" courses.

Neat idea, though. I guess it would be pretty hard to burn them all down. And even if the opponent takes speedsters, those all usually have about four hull. If he can pull off four rams a turn, that's a dead ship. Yikes.

I played a Corvette ram list at Worlds (so not Rieekan, obviously) even though he was doing 50% damage to himself, he almost took out a Vic II on turn 1. He did 7 damage to it. :/

(Fleet Ambush is why he was close enough.)

Yeah, this is so annoying :P Rieekan only means that you can't do anything but taking it :P

That is...hilarious...and cheesy all in the same run...

No, it sucked and was terrible.

I was very unprepared for that list, lol.

Why do I get the feeling on being hated and somewhat liked at the same time. . . Oh wait. . . That is standard.

To be fair. Many of my posts are me just replying to a single post at a time.

Rieekan is 50-50 for me. I have yet to use him but that is because I have not had the desire to do so. With my current kick on my Dodonna the Oppressor list and my Vader Duet list I have not tried him out. Each time someone has used him against me I end up losing a ship but taking their list down. . . Here you can check the video out.

And you respond by linking a video, it made me lol, I'll be honest.

I feel like Rieekan is amazing with Ace squadrons... And that's about it. Being a jerk to your opponent's squadrons is cool, but I just don't think it's enough.

And obviously that's not all of it, he reduces the importance of activation order a little bit, and allows for extra attacks, I just feel like those things don't end up being worth it in the long run. At least not in my experience.

And you respond by linking a video, it made me lol, I'll be honest.

I feel like Rieekan is amazing with Ace squadrons... And that's about it. Being a jerk to your opponent's squadrons is cool, but I just don't think it's enough.

And obviously that's not all of it, he reduces the importance of activation order a little bit, and allows for extra attacks, I just feel like those things don't end up being worth it in the long run. At least not in my experience.

Considering that the video is on topic and has my feelings on facing that list at the time and my thoughts. . . yea, it seems like a smart thing to do. While also showing people a good list on the rebels side of things.

I think Rieekan enhances your need to watch your Activation Order. You do not want to have a ship that activated but did not do much to further your cause to be destroyed so you have to work your commands better so that every activation nets you the most out of that ship.

Hmmm not many people bring up the fact that Rieekan is the first commander with an ability that directly affects squadrons. . . hmmmm interesting from the game developer side of things. . .

To be fair. Many of my posts are me just replying to a single post at a time.

Just wanted to say that I did appreciate your post, suggesting that I watch some of your videos. (For the record I had actually already watched the CR90 game, but it was still nice to have someone point me in the right direction!)

So don't worry about people jumping on you, your advice was helpful to the person you were actually trying to help :)

To be fair. Many of my posts are me just replying to a single post at a time.

Just wanted to say that I did appreciate your post, suggesting that I watch some of your videos. (For the record I had actually already watched the CR90 game, but it was still nice to have someone point me in the right direction!)

So don't worry about people jumping on you, your advice was helpful to the person you were actually trying to help :)

And this is why I like posting. Thank you for that.

Rieekan can be a pain but once you get used to him it will be fine.

The problem with Riekkan, while he may "win" you the match....the Riekkan player wouldn't do well in a tourney. While you win, you will not get a high MOV if all your ships (or many) are dead.

The concept of intentionally or by design allowing your fleet to blow up doesn't sit well with me...hehe... And, competitively, it will not do well.

I really think that ffg should look at the ram rulings. Cause its kind of sad that 7 vettes with engine tech could kill a ISD but non of the vettes would take enough damage to really die.

Maybe if a small rams a larger ship itends it turn touching the large ship. Or if touching it clears it. And larger ships like the ISD just push vettes out of the way as they move forward.

I really think that ffg should look at the ram rulings.

I'm sure that they have.

And 6 corvettes, double ramming, could kill a non-Motti ISD.

The problem is that this is a very difficult maneuver to set up. You would have to be so precise, and of your corvettes have taken any damage you may well lose some to ramming (unless your opponent is running a single ISD, and isn't using it to attack, but don't expect to run into that build very often.)

I really think that ffg should look at the ram rulings.

I'm sure that they have.

And 6 corvettes, double ramming, could kill a non-Motti ISD.

The problem is that this is a very difficult maneuver to set up. You would have to be so precise, and of your corvettes have taken any damage you may well lose some to ramming (unless your opponent is running a single ISD, and isn't using it to attack, but don't expect to run into that build very often.)

Zombie Yavaris with Zombie Luke, Zombie Nym, and Zombie Keyan is bad. Really, it's bad. Do not run this under any circumstances. You will regret it.

:rolleyes: