Predator lets you reroll 1 red die, 2 if the defender's PS is below 3.
Dengar lets you reroll 1red die, 2 if the defender is a unique pilot.
Both cost 3 points.
Is it worth 6 points to be able to reroll up to 3 dice per attack on everything but higher PS generics? You'd get to reroll 2 against them. It's kind of overkill but you'd be able to reroll 4 dice on uniques that get Muxed.
nope
6 points is almost an HLC. Pick one or the other and free up your ept or crew slot, respectively
It means you can give significantly less of a **** about Stress or K-turning. It is also 6 points.
The ships that can take it at the moment have varying levels of need for their EPT. Scum Boba wants VI bad, but he gets R1 re-rolls, so Predator isn't doing him many favors.
Bossk... kinda wants VI? I'm not positive, I don't fly him enough. Besides, Bossk gets more mileage out of pouring points into Crew upgrades I feel.
What about our lovely Mist Hunter? I think this is where Dengar and Predator find a home. Take a Focus and fire your Tractor Beam with 3 free re-rolls at an enemy ace.
It means you can give significantly less of a **** about Stress or K-turning. It is also 6 points.
The ships that can take it at the moment have varying levels of need for their EPT. Scum Boba wants VI bad, but he gets R1 re-rolls, so Predator isn't doing him many favors.
Bossk... kinda wants VI? I'm not positive, I don't fly him enough. Besides, Bossk gets more mileage out of pouring points into Crew upgrades I feel.
What about our lovely Mist Hunter? I think this is where Dengar and Predator find a home. Take a Focus and fire your Tractor Beam with 3 free re-rolls at an enemy ace.
Dengar crew lets Bossk use his ept to get marksmanship, however.
It means you can give significantly less of a **** about Stress or K-turning. It is also 6 points.
The ships that can take it at the moment have varying levels of need for their EPT. Scum Boba wants VI bad, but he gets R1 re-rolls, so Predator isn't doing him many favors.
Bossk... kinda wants VI? I'm not positive, I don't fly him enough. Besides, Bossk gets more mileage out of pouring points into Crew upgrades I feel.
What about our lovely Mist Hunter? I think this is where Dengar and Predator find a home. Take a Focus and fire your Tractor Beam with 3 free re-rolls at an enemy ace.
I think six points to reroll three dice against an ace is overkill. Since you'll likely have a focus token in that situation, it'd only actually help you on those rolls where you get three blanks. If you have even one eyeball, just reroll the other two dice and go from there.
For specific pilots, Manaroo with Mindlink seems like a clear option. Acquire a focus, give it to your partner, and get one back to have a focus/reroll for yourself.
He also pairs well with Emon Azzameen, who has otherwise used his action to drop a bomb.
Any YV-666 or HWK could also benefit from having Dengar on board. Most of the YVs don't have an EPT slot for Predator (except Bossk, who can benefit from VI) and Dengar gives rerolls to the HWK pilots to help their attacks.
Right -- I definitely think it's too many points. Just in terms of a place where it 'fits' to have both Predator AND Dengar, the Mist Hunter isn't a bad choice. I would rather split them up in my squad or take different upgrades altogether.
EU Kath wouldn't refuse Dengar a ride!
EU Kath wouldn't refuse Dengar a ride!
Kath is also the only one where I'd consider the Predator/Dengar combo. Give her an HLC, and that's four dice with the ability to reroll three of them from either arc. It's five dice if you can line up a range 1 shot out of her rear arc. That frees her action up to either Boost or Evade as needed to stay alive.
nope
6 points is almost an HLC. Pick one or the other and free up your ept or crew slot, respectively
Having played Scum Boba, rerolling 3 Atk dice is very, very nice. Not quite a good reason to run the mid range generics, but it is a nasty combo.
Dengar crew + PTL + Unhinged on a jumpmaster master but on most of the other scum ships it might be worth saving the crew for something else.
With PTL + Unhinged, K4 is 100% better I think. Honestly I do not yet see a great ship to use Dengar as crew on. Maybe on Zuckus? Predator + Dengar seems bad, how often are you rerolling 3 dice?
predator + dengar is complete overkill, but Dengar by himself is going to be sweet
slap him wherever he goes (minus PTL ships, since k4 will be your buddy there); he even works with secondary weapons such as TLT
apart from k4 and gunner + bossk combo, he's not really competing with anything. His inclusion will depend on how much you need your ept over your crew. Given the state of the meta atm, however, I do believe he's strictly superior to predator. Only ever see goldies and wardens as predator targets
Edited by ficklegreendiceI like him on a Boba Fett: Ace Hunter kind of build.
With PTL + Unhinged, K4 is 100% better I think. Honestly I do not yet see a great ship to use Dengar as crew on. Maybe on Zuckus? Predator + Dengar seems bad, how often are you rerolling 3 dice?
Here's four sample ship builds I can envision:
In this case, Manaroo is mind-linked with another pilot, like Boba or IG-88. She's able to pass them her Focus tokens, which generates another token for herself. Meanwhile, she has Dengar to help ensure her attacks stick.
Here, Mux is able to completely wreck aces, especially those who get into range 2 of him. Not only does Dengar give him two rerolls, but he can also drop them to PS0 to help out his Predator buddies.
Forget predator Dengar is the best passive reroll in the game, hes like accessing a free EPT for some ships and a second EPT for others.
Dengar TLTs are definitely going to be frustrating.
Dengar TLTs are definitely going to be frustrating.
Lucky for us that combo can only be equipped to the infamously squishy HWK. 
I like it. It's like Fire-Control System. Against everyone. All the time.
Dengar is about as good as K4. Not sure why we needed two scum-only crew that do nearly the same thing.
Dengar works nicely on red maneuvers with Outlaw Tech.
Generic YV-666s could do worse with 5 points I suppose. It is pretty hard to arc dodge something with a 180 degree firing arc.
Makes Moralo even more Eval,
Edited by VulfIm gonna love dengar crew on the trandoshan slaver with zuckess and 4-lom, 34 points of pure awesome
Dengar is about as good as K4. Not sure why we needed two scum-only crew that do nearly the same thing.
Dengar works nicely on red maneuvers with Outlaw Tech.
Generic YV-666s could do worse with 5 points I suppose. It is pretty hard to arc dodge something with a 180 degree firing arc.
Makes Moralo even more Eval,
Dengar works on all moves. K4 only works on greens.
Dengar works on all attacks. K4 only really works on one.
Dengar only lets you modify two dice, and only one against generics. K4 works on all dice.
Dengar doesn't give a lock to fire ordnance. K4 does.
There are subtle differences.Dengar is about as good as K4. Not sure why we needed two scum-only crew that do nearly the same thing.
Dengar works nicely on red maneuvers with Outlaw Tech.
Generic YV-666s could do worse with 5 points I suppose. It is pretty hard to arc dodge something with a 180 degree firing arc.
Makes Moralo even more Eval,
Dengar works on all moves. K4 only works on greens.
Dengar works on all attacks. K4 only really works on one.
Dengar only lets you modify two dice, and only one against generics. K4 works on all dice.
Dengar doesn't give a lock to fire ordnance. K4 does.
Dengar isn't affected by Expert Handling. K4 is.
Dengar doesn't forecast your intent to the victim. K4 does.
​Dengar is unique. K4 is spammable.
As being mentioned, Dengar is a great way for Scum to focus on using non-Predator EPTs and still add reliability to attack rolls. This is a brand new concept (attack rerolls from a crew slot) that the other factions dont have. It's really cool.
Cards like Oppurtunist that were competing with Predator (and PTL) might even find themselves being played in reliable lists. My favorite will probably be a desire to actually use Lightning Reflexes HWKs/Misthunter Aces (though ill probably end up with Crackshot for max damage). Heck, id finally consider using Calculation on Bossk.
Edited by phild0