Boba Fett Crew

By Crabbok, in X-Wing

I guess Scum just got the ultimate troll card. I wonder whether TLT could trigger this twice...

No Crits on a TLT :-( and it triggers when the card is dealt so even so it would only work once as card would have been dealt during the first attack.

Unless of course you happen to have Greedo...then 1st damage is face up ;)

There's currently no Scum ship with a turret and two crew slots, though.

If you remove Chardan Refit without destroying the Awing, and this takes your opponents list over 100pts - do you automatically win as their list is now illegal? XD

Heh, that would be cool! Discarded cards still count towards cost though don't they?

If you remove Chardan Refit without destroying the Awing, and this takes your opponents list over 100pts - do you automatically win as their list is now illegal? XD

Heh, that would be cool! Discarded cards still count towards cost though don't they?

Yes. Points are already known prior to the match.

If you remove Chardan Refit without destroying the Awing, and this takes your opponents list over 100pts - do you automatically win as their list is now illegal? XD

Heh, that would be cool! Discarded cards still count towards cost though don't they?

Yes. Points are already known prior to the match.

Although to be fair, I think that rule specifically says they still count when totalling at the end of the match, and doesn't cover mid-match! :P

The rules for discarding cards specify that the point value still counts while a card is discarded.

Don't bother discarding titles that add slots or change how an upgrade works. Discard the upgrade that it affects.

And I don't see the theme being that he somehow moves to the other ship when it takes the crit.

He is a man with a plan. He does nothing spur if the moment. During the opening exchanges, he is discreetly sneaking over to the other ship. He hides in the ventilation or in the engine room until the time is right. Then, there is an explosion, caused by your ship's attack, creating a diversion. He then, in the confusion, assassinates a crew member, sabotages something on board, or injures the pilot, and disappears without a trace.

On another note, I did have a laugh about him in epic. Mostly from a theme point of view, as there are likely better upgrades to choose on a huge ship, but humor me for a second.

Boba sneaks on the ship, and hangs out in an air duct. When the ship rakes a crit, you discard a Team Upgrade. There is an explosion, Boba emerges suddenly, dispatches everyone in the room, and then disappears.

This is a dangerous direction in the meta.

Being able to remove cards from opponent's ships is one of the places where STAW started to go really wrong.

Could you give some examples of cards from STAW that did that? It's possible they were just not as well balanced as Boba.

Thalaron Weapon

Assimilation Tubules

Boarding Party

etc, etc...

The danger is that once you start making cards which remove parts of another player's build, it can be a slippery slope unless the game maker is very careful. The temptation to make more and more cards like this will be strong.

The thing is FFG didn't make the card. Paul is conspiring against us!!

If you remove Chardan Refit without destroying the Awing, and this takes your opponents list over 100pts - do you automatically win as their list is now illegal? XD

No.

Your lists total points in the match is what it was at the start.

Think of the upgrade similar to a torpedo/missile, When you flip a ordnance face down It's point cost still is in the game. Chaardin Refit as a target would be a waste because his list was legal at the start of the game.

What happens if you discard extra munitions?

Nothing, as you place the token when you equip the card. So removing it later would do nothing to the tokens.

I guess we may see more Jerjerrod crew now..also Chewbacca laughs at Boba

That may actually be in need of an FAQ.

They both trigger on Chewbacca having been dealt a face up damage card. My instincts would be that Chewbacca receives the card, then flips it face down. Then Boba triggers on having dealt a face up damage card and kills whatever Chewie is flying with.

I think he meant the chewie crew which, like integrated astromech, lets you cancel being given a faceup damage card, so Boba would not trigger.

To clarify, Boba's ability activates after performing the attack , Thus Chewies Pilot ability and Chewies Crew card Will have a chance at activating first.

boba's going on a proton torpedo boat jumpmaster :D

potentially a YV-666

funny thing is imperial Kath would love scum boba crew, but alas they were never meant to be :(

What happens if you discard extra munitions?

gonna guess you can't remove the tokens instead of discarding the ordnance weapon, as the effect of the token is written on the card itself (it is not a part of the token rules, contrast with Ion/tractor beam tokens)

Extra Munitions is actually a cool way of stopping Fett.

Extra Munitions tokens trigger when you are instructed to discard the secondary weapons/bomb card. Boba Fett would discard the card. Therefore RAW the defender could discard a token instead and Boba still has to be discarded.

Extra Munitions is actually a cool way of stopping Fett.

Extra Munitions tokens trigger when you are instructed to discard the secondary weapons/bomb card. Boba Fett would discard the card. Therefore RAW the defender could discard a token instead and Boba still has to be discarded.

probably why you'd hit the EM first :P

As I said above, getting rid of the EM card itself would do nothing. Same as the R2-D6/EPT/IA interaction.

The tokens would still be there, and you still have the rules technically, the card has just been discarded.

It's not like Boba Fett sneaks on board the ship and removes the deck plating that has "Moldy Crow" chiseled into the metal.

Obviously all of you are visualizing this card wrong. When this upgrade is used, Boba activates his jetpack and is shot at any ship you choose. Once he has made contact, he pulls out his trusty "4-Lom's clippy-clippy space pliers tm " a nd starts cutting like there's no tomorrow. Inevitably, the pilot of the other ship will notice that there is a man in armor latched onto his ship, and will simply activate the windshield wipers to knock him into space, hence the discard.

Edited by lordzel

What happens if you discard extra munitions?

gonna guess you can't remove the tokens instead of discarding the ordnance weapon, as the effect of the token is written on the card itself (it is not a part of the token rules, contrast with Ion/tractor beam tokens)

Actually, I don't think Boba can even hit Extra Munitions.
Remember, EM technically instructs you to put a token on each appropriate upgrade card, including itself , and it doesn't exclude itself from its own effect. Therefore, if Boba tries to make you discard Extra Munitions, you simply discard the munitions token on it and laugh at him.
In other words, that weird rules quirk actually has a reason to exist now!

Yeah basically, there's a bunch of cards you shouldn't waste Boba on because some just don't work.

Are Titles considered to be Upgrade cards?

I have a feeling they aren't.

Consider that a "Title" signifies that a ship is just a particular version of a ship.

Being the "Moldy Crow" can't be removed by Boba Fett. Even if a ship gets damaged beyond repair, it is STILL the Moldy Crow.

There's gotta be wording in the rules somewhere to support this.

But if moldycrow has special gear X and said gear is destroyed in an attack, then its uniqueness is gone and its a standard hawk, with the name only...

I'd say titles ARE upgrade cards. Title is a type of upgrade card that you pay for just like any other. But as above, some being removed won't do anything. For example, removing the Royal Guard Title won't then instantly remove the second mod from an Interceptor.

But removing ones like Moldy Crow or Outrider, you would remove an ability from that ship (as they are ongoing abilities granted by having the card equipped)

also, before we get to this ***********:

  1. titles are upgrades
  2. Ghost lets you dock the phantom. Boba cannot stop this as the phantom is already docked.
  3. Boba can take away your ability to deploy the Phantom after a maneuver (the ability of the Ghost title)
  4. The Phantom will still be deployed if the Ghost dies as per normal docking rules (the phantom will receive a face-down damage)
  5. you can't target the Phantom while it's docked, so you can't hit the Phantom title with Boba and the Ghost will continue to use its rear arc + extra turret shot

basically, Boba's a butt-plug

What happens if you discard extra munitions?

gonna guess you can't remove the tokens instead of discarding the ordnance weapon, as the effect of the token is written on the card itself (it is not a part of the token rules, contrast with Ion/tractor beam tokens)

Actually, I don't think Boba can even hit Extra Munitions.
Remember, EM technically instructs you to put a token on each appropriate upgrade card, including itself , and it doesn't exclude itself from its own effect. Therefore, if Boba tries to make you discard Extra Munitions, you simply discard the munitions token on it and laugh at him.
In other words, that weird rules quirk actually has a reason to exist now!

hilarious, never even thought of that :P

Edited by ficklegreendice

I'd say titles ARE upgrade cards. Title is a type of upgrade card that you pay for just like any other. But as above, some being removed won't do anything. For example, removing the Royal Guard Title won't then instantly remove the second mod from an Interceptor.

But removing ones like Moldy Crow or Outrider, you would remove an ability from that ship (as they are ongoing abilities granted by having the card equipped)

Ditto both TIE defender titles.

I'd say titles ARE upgrade cards. Title is a type of upgrade card that you pay for just like any other. But as above, some being removed won't do anything. For example, removing the Royal Guard Title won't then instantly remove the second mod from an Interceptor.

But removing ones like Moldy Crow or Outrider, you would remove an ability from that ship (as they are ongoing abilities granted by having the card equipped)

Ditto both TIE defender titles.

Punishing One ;)

Hmm, if only Imperials could take Boba fett crew... Vader crew + Boba crew would really have a nice synergy as the two most bad-ass movie villains.

I'd say titles ARE upgrade cards. Title is a type of upgrade card that you pay for just like any other. But as above, some being removed won't do anything. For example, removing the Royal Guard Title won't then instantly remove the second mod from an Interceptor.

But removing ones like Moldy Crow or Outrider, you would remove an ability from that ship (as they are ongoing abilities granted by having the card equipped)

Ditto both TIE defender titles.

Punishing One ;)

And that's why you go for initiative and try to Boba their Boba :P