OMG guys.... Please please READ the Outrider Title.

WHILE YOU HAVE A CANNON EQUIPPED, .......

If boba fett removes your cannon.... then you HAVE NO CANNON EQUIPPED. The rest of the title is nullified. This was settled a long time ago with the old damage deck.

Are Titles considered to be Upgrade cards?

I have a feeling they aren't.

Consider that a "Title" signifies that a ship is just a particular version of a ship.

Being the "Moldy Crow" can't be removed by Boba Fett. Even if a ship gets damaged beyond repair, it is STILL the Moldy Crow.

There's gotta be wording in the rules somewhere to support this.

Yeah, this is strange. Titles are listed as 'special upgrades.' I hope they clear this up by maybe wording Boba Fett to say "an upgrade on the defending ship's upgrade bar," (Titles don't appear on upgrade bars) or something. Not all Titles are equal. Stripping A-Wing Test Pilot or Royal Guard TIE doesn't get rid of the extra EPT or Modification because the points have already been spent.

Getting rid of Outrider, Moldy Crow or Punishing One Titles on the other hand massively depletes that ship's capability.

Agh, then again, Modifications don't show up on Upgrade bars either... I guess Titles are just screwed? Ah well, you still have to land a crit. And against most ships, as others have pointed out, you're already into hull at that point and seriously close to killing it anyway. This is most useful against things like the Millennium Falcon, Punishing One, Outrider, etc. as far as Titles go.

Are Titles considered to be Upgrade cards?

I have a feeling they aren't.

Consider that a "Title" signifies that a ship is just a particular version of a ship.

Being the "Moldy Crow" can't be removed by Boba Fett. Even if a ship gets damaged beyond repair, it is STILL the Moldy Crow.

There's gotta be wording in the rules somewhere to support this.

At that point you are trying to make it all about LORE rather than rules and gameplay.

Sure it's still the Moldy Crow... but it loses the ability that is unique to the Modly Crow... IF the computer Upgrade, the Special Modifications, whatever. It's not like Boba Fett sneaks on board the ship and removes the deck plating that has "Moldy Crow" chiseled into the metal. He sabotages the ship so it can no longer do the function on ONE card.

And the Chardran Refit is a good question. You obviously don't instantly win the game, but it could mean you end up getting more points than normal. I would suspect though, that like any point reduction ability, after the game begins, that card is essentially meaningless. Same with TIE Advanced X1 title. You'll still keep your system card.

You can't get more points than normal. That's like saying if you discard another card, you lose points.

The points stay the same no matter what; they are calculated before the game begins.

Palpatine shuttles are an obvious target, but they also have lots of shields to get through.

Decimators and Shuttles have almost no chance of dodging AHM. Palpatine just became a coaster.

Okay, so you're spending 4 points, a crew slot, and an attack to get rid of Palpatine and do one damage? And doing so pushes you to organize your list around a YV or a Firespray?

Speaking as someone who's spent the last six months focusing on Palpatine lists, I'm okay with that.

Palpatine shuttles are an obvious target, but they also have lots of shields to get through.

Decimators and Shuttles have almost no chance of dodging AHM. Palpatine just became a coaster.

Okay, so you're spending 4 points, a crew slot, and an attack to get rid of Palpatine and do one damage? And doing so pushes you to organize your list around a YV or a Firespray?

Speaking as someone who's spent the last six months focusing on Palpatine lists, I'm okay with that.

Well, it's a little more than one damage. It's a faceup damage card.

Though there are admittedly few critical hits that actually hurt an otherwise naked shuttle.

Pair up Boba with a Mangler to make sure you get at least one Crit result and hope for the best.

Boba Fett might also win the award of "hardest to visualize card."

So, a Firespray puts a crit on the Ghost and Dr. Bob A. Fett kind of just crawls over there and cuts out the EPT part of your pilot?

This is a dangerous direction in the meta.

Being able to remove cards from opponent's ships is one of the places where STAW started to go really wrong.

This is a dangerous direction in the meta.

Being able to remove cards from opponent's ships is one of the places where STAW started to go really wrong.

It's a 1 point upgrade that you have to discard to remove another enemy upgrade. It requires a good deal of luck or a lot of squad building around, again, something that is a one-time use . It can and certainly will change a few games, but it will not have the same impact as other 1 point upgrades like Tractor Beam or Crack Shot.

I think Chewbacca gonna be the favorite for Falcon pilots, since he is immune to Boba.

"Wookies dont play dat!"

Leebo + Determination for the Outrider.

I think Boba is a cool card, and it will put fear in certain players eyes, and a BIG target on the ship carrying him. Good with the bad.

Palpatine shuttles are an obvious target, but they also have lots of shields to get through.

Decimators and Shuttles have almost no chance of dodging AHM. Palpatine just became a coaster.

Okay, so you're spending 4 points, a crew slot, and an attack to get rid of Palpatine and do one damage? And doing so pushes you to organize your list around a YV or a Firespray?Speaking as someone who's spent the last six months focusing on Palpatine lists, I'm okay with that.

"Boba is a pretty solid crew for X, which happens to have a missile slot. I'm going to take AHM to give me more options to use Boba's ability."

Now that I've typed it out, I'm not sure it's much better. AHM were so disappointing.

Are Titles considered to be Upgrade cards?

I have a feeling they aren't.

Consider that a "Title" signifies that a ship is just a particular version of a ship.

Being the "Moldy Crow" can't be removed by Boba Fett. Even if a ship gets damaged beyond repair, it is STILL the Moldy Crow.

There's gotta be wording in the rules somewhere to support this.

Rules Reference , page 19:

A title is a type of upgrade. Any ship can equip a title as long as the title is not restricted to a different type of ship. A ship cannot equip more than one title.

This is a dangerous direction in the meta.

Being able to remove cards from opponent's ships is one of the places where STAW started to go really wrong.

Could you give some examples of cards from STAW that did that? It's possible they were just not as well balanced as Boba.

Being able to remove cards from opponent's ships is one of the places where STAW started to go really wrong.

No, STAW started to go wrong from design and just kept going there.

Guys. Guys.

Emon

Boba Fett

Slave 1

Extra munitions

Proton bomb.

Then just slingshot your way to greatness.

Palpatine shuttles are an obvious target, but they also have lots of shields to get through.

Decimators and Shuttles have almost no chance of dodging AHM. Palpatine just became a coaster.

Okay, so you're spending 4 points, a crew slot, and an attack to get rid of Palpatine and do one damage? And doing so pushes you to organize your list around a YV or a Firespray?Speaking as someone who's spent the last six months focusing on Palpatine lists, I'm okay with that.

I think know it's more a case of:

"Boba is a pretty solid crew for X, which happens to have a missile slot. I'm going to take AHM to give me more options to use Boba's ability."

Now that I've typed it out, I'm not sure it's much better. AHM were so disappointing.

Right. Ten Numb + Mangler Cannon is a silver bullet for Soontir Fel, who features in a ridiculous proportion of Imperial lists. But no one looks at that silver bullet and says "Oh, well, Soontir is out of the metagame now."

That Ten build is great against certain kinds of threats, but he falls flat against enemy ships that can shrug, soak up his attacks, and knock him out before he causes real problems. I think Boba Fett is a fun card with a very strong ability, but it's going to take a lot of scaffolding to make him work consistently--and even then his effect is going to vary substantially depending on the squad your opponent fields.

Guys. Guys.

Emon

Boba Fett

Slave 1

Extra munitions

Proton bomb.

Then just slingshot your way to greatness.

Proton Bomb isn't an attack.

While I don't think Boba will be quite as effective as some think, at 1 point I could see including him in most any list that can take him.

You take Boba and pound your local meta into diversity.

https://youtu.be/jn_J425eo3Q

it had to be done

Don't take my defender titles from me Fett.

Remove x7 title. Your opponent now fields an illegal squad. You win, right?

Well, bossk just went from strong to a menace.

" ridin scummy "

Bossk

Calculation

Dengar

Bobba

Ret spec

*eu and mangler cannon to taste*

No longer needs his greens to double modifiy and can choose bobba pretty well every shot.

This is a dangerous direction in the meta.

Being able to remove cards from opponent's ships is one of the places where STAW started to go really wrong.

Could you give some examples of cards from STAW that did that? It's possible they were just not as well balanced as Boba.

Thalaron Weapon

Assimilation Tubules

Boarding Party

etc, etc...

The danger is that once you start making cards which remove parts of another player's build, it can be a slippery slope unless the game maker is very careful. The temptation to make more and more cards like this will be strong.

I need to dress him up in an imperial (crew)uniform..

Remove x7 title. Your opponent now fields an illegal squad. You win, right?

No, because the point value is only really accounted for during list building. Changes like that don't actually change the point value of the ships.

Also there's the email ruling that losing R2-D6 doesn't remove the elite talent.