Somehwat offtopic but not really because i'm specifically interested in people who play Armada regularly as it seems to serve the same itch of hauling big ships around. Have you looked into Sails of Glory and if so, if you came to a decision what was it in the end and why?
Anyone playing Sails of Glory on the Side with Armada ?
My Sails of Glory time predates Armada (helped Kickstart it) but I like the ease of movement, plus BROADSIDES and BOARDING ACTIONS!!!
I bought the starter set thinking my friends who hate dice might like it, but then I saw the rules and my eyes glazed over.
My Sails of Glory time predates Armada (helped Kickstart it) but I like the ease of movement, plus BROADSIDES and BOARDING ACTIONS!!!
Can i ask wether it finds tabletime besides your regular Armada games ? What i'm interested in is that it doesnt have a big meta game with upgrade cards that you have to stay on top. In my mind it's lets throw some ships together and have a deep Game. I'm not always personally in the mood for the competitive nature of Armada.
I love Sails of Glory, there are very few upgrade cards in the game as each ship is named and has it's abilities built in. The rules are written in such a way that you can pick and choose which ones to use (just agree with your opponent before the game starts) to make it as complex or simple as you please.
The models are outstanding, probably better than Armada and that is saying something.
I also love that as a ship takes damage it's ability to attack is degraded, so it's far more 'realistic' we don't normally use the repair rules in our games as repairing in the middle of a battle just doesn't seem 'real'
All things happen simultaneously as well, so that makes for a very cool mechanic for ship combat.
If you use the entire rule set a game with two ships per side can take 2+ hours, but by using only the intermediate rules and a few advanced rules sprinkled in 4-5 ships per side games can be done in 2-3 hours, smaller games in less or larger games with fewer rules in the same time.
It's very flexible.
It has been on my short list of games to get into, but actually gut bumped back by Armada. It may make it back in some day, but for now I still have several hundred of the Wizkids Pirate ships that work really well for scratching the table top, Great age of Sail, itch.
Sails of Glory looks utterly fascinating to me. I love the Horatio Hornblower stories. I haven't gotten in to it because there is only so much time and so much money and so many guys to game with.
Like other posters have said, I too, find SoG to be very intriguing. My buddy has it but we haven't played it yet (at least i haven't). There just isn't enough time to play everything I want to play. I probably have only 30-35 or so games of Armada under my belt, and I've been into since day 1. I feel like I've just scratched the surface.
I've only played it for five times myself, despite having had it for a while now. Yes, like everyone else, time is a huge factor in deciding which game to play. And there's no question that the Armada has a much bigger player base. Currently I'm much more absorbed by Armada because I find it a bit "deeper" in its mechanics. Let's face it the ships of the era maneuvered fairly similarly. The difference between a fifth rate and a first-rate wasn't all that much, especially compared to the difference between an ISD and a CR90.
That said, I do still love wondering whether to load the cannons with chain or round shot, whether to double charge, and raking the foe when they don't quite make their tack.
I want some boarding action in Armada!
This guy does.
I picked up the core set, a Victory (HMS, not imps) and a French 1st rate over the xmas sales.
I love the rules, managing your wind is vitally important to winning. plus GROG!
The miniatures a good, not to the same painting standard as Armada, but that was easily fixed. I even went to the effort of adding fixed rigging and brass etched ratlines to make them look more realistic.
Our game group has long played Wooden Ships and Iron Men with 1/1200 ships but we've moved on to Warfare at Sea in the Age of Reason which mighty good fun. (GHQ ships rock!) Fun stuff.
Strongly recommend and the rules are pretty cheap : http://www.wargamevault.com/product/138509/Warfare-at-Sea-in-the-Age-of-Reason
I have two starter sets and almost 50 ships, it is a great game especially for the older crowd, and it is a fantastic system. I combine it with my love of history and the idea of smashing each other with broadsides, it is
very satisfying
Anyone want more info just go line a type in Sails of Glory, there is a pile of websites.
I play Sails of Glory, ("Boat Game" according to my roomie) and have a big collection of Wings of Glory minis too.. decidedly fun systems to play!
Got a demo game when it hit stores, bought the starter box, hasn't seem the table since. Just not much interest in it in my area. I'd like to play it as the Napoleonic sail era is an interest of mine.
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This guy does.
I picked up the core set, a Victory (HMS, not imps) and a French 1st rate over the xmas sales.
I love the rules, managing your wind is vitally important to winning. plus GROG!
The miniatures a good, not to the same painting standard as Armada, but that was easily fixed. I even went to the effort of adding fixed rigging and brass etched ratlines to make them look more realistic.
Kudos on the addition of rigging. That's hardcore.
My friend has a couple cores and many expansion ships. It's definitely a fun system, but the chit pull mechanic for damage is a bit fidly for my taste. Sailing around and accounting for the change in wind direction is fun however.
I think if more people played in my area, I'd buy in, but unfortunately, his set is the only set I've seen played.
The models are outstanding, probably better than Armada and that is saying something.
Really? Because when I look at pictures of the models on the various webpages they don't look half as good as Armada's models.
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Sails of Glory looks utterly fascinating to me. I love the Horatio Hornblower stories. I haven't gotten in to it because there is only so much time and so much money and so many guys to game with.
If you like the hornblower series look into the Richard bolting series it's really really good
Yes they look better in your pictures, but I was talking about the models not the paintjob. The Nebulon-B in my picture has a ton of detail, all the greaves and bulbous parts are represented, small parts like the tail fins are well represented. The SoG ship has little detail on the hull, there is plastic fill between the sails, and the finer details like the mast intersections are rather crude and square. But as I don't own any AoS models I may be wrong, it's just based on the pictures on their site.
I literally last week was introduced/pointed in the direction of this by my "old man". He loves the era and we've messed around with Pirates and he's played a few others...
Looking forward to giving it a go, the whole wind direction/speed/grog(morale?) and more make it seem a little complex (MILLIONS...of tokens...lol) but I'm looking forward to giving it a go... Owing to time, my dad is usually my Armada opponent (it was worth the two Feldherr bags to lug everything round to his easily!!!) so it may split our time now... We'll see...
I do love me some Sails of Glory. The command boards have slightly more fiddly bits than I would like, but it's still great.
Sadly, I have WAY too many two-player wargames, and not enough people to play them with. Or possibly too many people to play them with.
Sadly, I have WAY too many two-player wargames, and not enough people to play them with. Or possibly too many people to play them with.
I have that same issue. We have regular game nights at my house, but usually with several people in attendance, so the games I like that really only work with two players don't get played very often.
I play occasionally and have most of the frigates and smaller ships only a few ships of the line though
Sails of Glory looks utterly fascinating to me. I love the Horatio Hornblower stories. I haven't gotten in to it because there is only so much time and so much money and so many guys to game with.
If you like the hornblower series look into the Richard bolting series it's really really good
I'll have to try to find the Bolting books I guess. Unfortunately pretty much the only Age of Sail novels I can find new where I live are the Hornblower books and while the used bookstores usually have some of Forrester's and O'Brian's books I'm lucky if I can find any other Age of Sail naval novels
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