I just realized I have been playing these wrong or I think I have. Say on the dice roll, it comes up a single hit and a single crit to a hull zone with 2 shields. It's lose of both shields and 1 face up crit. Right? The crit still counts as a point of damage and the crit effect causes a face up damage card.

You've rolled your dice, and your enemy has a had a chance to spend their defense tokens, but at the end, there's one Black Die that says HIT CRIT

You then get to activate a Critical Effect. Note, this is before you've even calculated how much "Damage" has been done.

That can be either your Default Critical Effect: "Your First Damage Card is Dealt Face Up."

Or it can be APT saying "Deal a Face Up Damage Card."

In this instance, if you use the APTs - They will immediately take and resolve a face up damage card.

THEN you calculate how much damage is done - in this case, its two...

If there are shields there, then that's 2 damage to shields. If there are no shields, then that's 2 damage to hull....

That's the short of it.

You've rolled your dice, and your enemy has a had a chance to spend their defense tokens, but at the end, there's one Black Die that says HIT CRIT

You then get to activate a Critical Effect. Note, this is before you've even calculated how much "Damage" has been done.

That can be either your Default Critical Effect: "Your First Damage Card is Dealt Face Up."

Or it can be APT saying "Deal a Face Up Damage Card."

In this instance, if you use the APTs - They will immediately take and resolve a face up damage card.

THEN you calculate how much damage is done - in this case, its two...

If there are shields there, then that's 2 damage to shields. If there are no shields, then that's 2 damage to hull....

That's the short of it.

Hit crit without the torps would strip the 2 shield, but no crit effect.

With the upgrade the ship would take a faceup damage card + lose 2 shields.

Edit: ooh, to furter that a ship w/out shields would recieve 3 damage cards(1 faceup) total with the upgrade?

Correct, it is also possible for the crit to Remove the shields BEFORE the damage is dealt (since APT happens first) so if you Shield failure or Projector misaligned you could get additional hull damage

Correct, it is also possible for the crit to Remove the shields BEFORE the damage is dealt (since APT happens first) so if you Shield failure or Projector misaligned you could get additional hull damage

Ty sir, been to a local demo day, but in my research since it appears our local community (which is small and friendly to be fair to them) have more than a few rules backwards.

Here have a video