Anyone know if they detail how long it takes to make the star ships and capital ships. Trying to find out in case my players decide to want to build their own?

I don't recall seeing one. Though if anyplace has it it would likely be in an AoR book. Though I imagine the FFG answer will be "as long as the story needs it to take".

Is there ship creation rules any where? It would nice to have some basic rules for building ships.

Just doing some basic Google + math

The Imperial class Star Destroyer is 1,600 meters long. No idea the width or height.

The Gerald R Ford class Aircraft Carrier is 340 meters long (essentially 1/5 the length).

They started "construction" on the Aircraft Carrier back in 2005, and plan to have it ready for delivery this month (11 years later). However, they marked the start of construction at cutting the steel beams. They say they want to improve the methods in order to get it down to 5 years of construction.

So if you wanted to make a capital ship completely 100% from scratch, you'd be looking at roughly 11 years per 340 meters. If you were working with a supply of parts, it's more like 5 years per 340 meters.

Which means the Star Destroyer would take roughly 25 - 55 years to construct at those rates. And that's not including the width or height of a Star Destroyer, which would basically add extra layers worth of construction. Each layer of width or height adding a multiplier to that figure.

There's a reason why hard core math nerds prefer Star Trek to Star Wars. Lucas just threw numbers on paper, never bothering to see if any of it was even remotely feasible. And while Star Trek isn't "real science", at least there's more justification for the flights of fancy. They can replicate ships together. But we've only got the one Star Forge, and the line to get in there is atrocious.

Just doing some basic Google + math

The Imperial class Star Destroyer is 1,600 meters long. No idea the width or height.

The Gerald R Ford class Aircraft Carrier is 340 meters long (essentially 1/5 the length).

They started "construction" on the Aircraft Carrier back in 2005, and plan to have it ready for delivery this month (11 years later). However, they marked the start of construction at cutting the steel beams. They say they want to improve the methods in order to get it down to 5 years of construction.

So if you wanted to make a capital ship completely 100% from scratch, you'd be looking at roughly 11 years per 340 meters. If you were working with a supply of parts, it's more like 5 years per 340 meters.

Which means the Star Destroyer would take roughly 25 - 55 years to construct at those rates. And that's not including the width or height of a Star Destroyer, which would basically add extra layers worth of construction. Each layer of width or height adding a multiplier to that figure.

There's a reason why hard core math nerds prefer Star Trek to Star Wars. Lucas just threw numbers on paper, never bothering to see if any of it was even remotely feasible. And while Star Trek isn't "real science", at least there's more justification for the flights of fancy. They can replicate ships together. But we've only got the one Star Forge, and the line to get in there is atrocious.

You are failing to account advances in building tech. Having watched the tech involved in making an aircraft carrier the tech to build one really is not that advanced.

1. They have droids that can work 24/7

2. In star wars they can manipulate gravity etc. and are building in zero G. That has to make many aspects faster.

3. Star Wars likely has more advanced tech for building than even 3d printing.

Is there ship creation rules any where? It would nice to have some basic rules for building ships.

Not yet.

Current canon claims that by the time of the Battle of Endor, the Empire operated 25,000 Imperial-class Star Destroyers. Keep in mind, this is supposedly just the Imperial-class of ships, it doesn't include Super Star Destroyers, Victory-class Star Destroyers, Cruisers, etc.

I think the number is exaggerated as it would mean the Empire was pumping out close to 3 Imperial-class Star Destroyers every day.

WotC's Starships of the Galaxy for the first version of their d20 Star Wars RPG had rules for construction, from deigns to building time ... It's not cheap, nor necessary for this game, but it's a nice book, the most fun I ever had with OCR.

Current canon claims that by the time of the Battle of Endor, the Empire operated 25,000 Imperial-class Star Destroyers. Keep in mind, this is supposedly just the Imperial-class of ships, it doesn't include Super Star Destroyers, Victory-class Star Destroyers, Cruisers, etc.

I think the number is exaggerated as it would mean the Empire was pumping out close to 3 Imperial-class Star Destroyers every day.

Consider how big the galaxy is. consider how controlled Palps had things. Consider between episode 3 and episode 6 how much time passed? I don't consider that to be all that far fetched. We pump out cars pretty fast. What if that technology were up scaled and applied to ship building?

25,000 ISDs is a lot, but considering the amount of materials, (slave) labour and facilities available...

From 3 to 6 I guess there's some 23 years or thereabouts. So that's more than 1 thousand ISDs per year after the foundation of the Empire... to be built and crewed.

In Rebels 2nd season we have that short Mon Calamary mechanic (can't remember name) who builds a whole ship by himself (I don't remember if he had any droids working for him or not). Of course we are talking about a Millenium Falcon-size ship, not a Capital ship.

So, it's possible to build a Silluette 4 ship for a group a players, but it will probably take them several years (and a lot of credits, unless they find a place with many scrap materials available). Silluette 3 is a lot smaller, so it'd be a lot faster to build (Anakin builds one from scrap parts on his free time).

The best solution, IMHO, is to allow the players to recycle a heavily damaged/destroyed ship hull, rather than build one from scratch.

As of now, there are no ship-crafting rules printed for this system.

As for how long it should take, Kuat Drive Yards really pumped Imperial and Imperial-II class SDs out at a significant rate. They also pumped out thousands of smaller ships every year. I can't remember where I read this, and I don't feel like looking it up. The Executor SSD was rushed to completion at the Fondor SY in just over 6 months. Other SSDs took about a year to make, each. CEC pumps out thousands of transports and freighters every year. These are massive orbital facilities, generally space rings around planets, that house millions of workers and droids and operate on thousands of production lines at once, so they aren't actually really good guidelines a small group of indiviudals building a ship on their own.

Now, one example I think is more closely related is the Baudo yacht. These are still built in a private SY, one at a time, and they each take about a year. That's still in a private shipyard, with a dedicated team, but due to the fact that no two are built exactly the same, I think it could give a GM a more reasonable time table to base anything off of.

Just doing some basic Google + math

The Imperial class Star Destroyer is 1,600 meters long. No idea the width or height.

The Gerald R Ford class Aircraft Carrier is 340 meters long (essentially 1/5 the length).

They started "construction" on the Aircraft Carrier back in 2005, and plan to have it ready for delivery this month (11 years later). However, they marked the start of construction at cutting the steel beams. They say they want to improve the methods in order to get it down to 5 years of construction.

So if you wanted to make a capital ship completely 100% from scratch, you'd be looking at roughly 11 years per 340 meters. If you were working with a supply of parts, it's more like 5 years per 340 meters.

Which means the Star Destroyer would take roughly 25 - 55 years to construct at those rates. And that's not including the width or height of a Star Destroyer, which would basically add extra layers worth of construction. Each layer of width or height adding a multiplier to that figure.

There's a reason why hard core math nerds prefer Star Trek to Star Wars. Lucas just threw numbers on paper, never bothering to see if any of it was even remotely feasible. And while Star Trek isn't "real science", at least there's more justification for the flights of fancy. They can replicate ships together. But we've only got the one Star Forge, and the line to get in there is atrocious.

If you do the same math on the size and construction time of the Death Star 2 you will get a much quicker construction rate. Of course it's a special project, but capital ships would also benefit from repeated construction of the same ship (not a prototype - facilities, equipment, crews, schematics, are just repeating something they've already done).

How long it would take to build a victory class star destroyer and another different capital ship would likely be two different situations. There are hard and detailed plans regarding the Victory class star destroyer. Your friends would not want to build that as it would cause serious problems. Other types may not have as detailed plans and construction processes which could make it more difficult and time consuming.

Just doing some basic Google + math

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There's a reason why hard core math nerds prefer Star Trek to Star Wars. Lucas just threw numbers on paper, never bothering to see if any of it was even remotely feasible. And while Star Trek isn't "real science", at least there's more justification for the flights of fancy. They can replicate ships together. But we've only got the one Star Forge, and the line to get in there is atrocious.

I didn't say that was how long I thought it would take. It was just an example since there is nothing in the rules as yet. Obviously they expected it to be much quicker, since we would hope it doesn't take hundreds of years to build an armada of ships.

Much like most stuff in Star Wars ..... the needs of the story is likely the best option to go with in regards to how long it should take.

The WEG material stated that a frigate or corvette, a sil 5 or sil 6 ship basically, took around a month for the Mon Cal Yards while an MC80 took around six months but noted the yards were being pushed to the limit, or slightly beyond to do so,

according to d20 Starships of the Galaxy (not saga) the last game to have ship construction rules

a Imperial star destroyer built at Kuat Drive Yards took up 12 slips to build.

and 1.7 years to complete.

now taking that Kuat Drive Yards has 5,781 slips.

thats 481 star destroyers per 1.7 years.

or 52 years to complete 25,000 ships if it was the only production yard used.

if that was spread over just 3 yards at 300 per yard it would take just 27 years.

So in closing, in a galaxy of millions* of inhabited worlds this number of vessels is well within the realm of possibilities.

* low ball estimate of worlds with the pop./resources/tech know how to supply support

according to d20 Starships of the Galaxy (not saga) the last game to have ship construction rules

a Imperial star destroyer built at Kuat Drive Yards took up 12 slips to build.

and 1.7 years to complete.

now taking that Kuat Drive Yards has 5,781 slips.

thats 481 star destroyers per 1.7 years.

or 52 years to complete 25,000 ships if it was the only production yard used.

if that was spread over just 3 yards at 300 per yard it would take just 27 years.

So in closing, in a galaxy of millions* of inhabited worlds this number of vessels is well within the realm of possibilities.

* low ball estimate of worlds with the pop./resources/tech know how to supply support

And if you stagger the builds you have 481 stardestoyers being built with 3 per day being completed.

Which comes close to the 1000 star destroyers per year I read somewhere that KDY could do.

Which comes close to the 1000 star destroyers per year I read somewhere that KDY could do.

give or take lol.