I also thought your first list was pretty good, but my later suggestions were based on a problem you felt you were having: lack of damage. It sounded like you were not happy with Omega Leader, hence FCS on whisper and Zeta Leader in place of OL. However, I really like SJ on phantoms too. I prefer it on non-whispers though, simply because I feel FCS helps with Whisper getting her free focus when she hits. Doesn't mean SJ can't work on her though.

Your new list (in the spoiler section) looks fine too. Yorr is great for Whisper because of stresshog and rebel captive, but if you know your meta is not rife with such things, you don't need to bother?

I guess its too late to get some more practice with your original list, and see if damage output is really a problem....but at this point, any further suggestions I can make would be drastic and so probably not helpful...

I guess its too late to get some more practice with your original list

Haha yea this is why I hate blowing lists up right before a tourney. I've flown Vader maybe 5 times in my life and I'm taking him to a Store Champs tomorrow. Going to be on Vassal all night tonight.

I guess its too late to get some more practice with your original list

Haha yea this is why I hate blowing lists up right before a tourney. I've flown Vader maybe 5 times in my life and I'm taking him to a Store Champs tomorrow. Going to be on Vassal all night tonight.

Good luck! I LOVE VASSAL, but if I play an actual live game soon after having played on VASSAL, my sense of distance is all messed up in my first game (especially the banks!)

My list which is close to yours.

Lambda-Class Shuttle: Omicron Group Pilot (21)

Sensor Jammer (4)

· Emperor Palpatine (8)

TIE/fo Fighter: · "Omega Leader" (21)

Juke (2)

Comm Relay (3)

TIE Phantom: · "Whisper" (32)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Fire Control System (2)

Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

· Agent Kallus (2)

Yorr isn't all that appealing to me unless you run into RAC with Rebel Captive - then Yorr in trouble.

Har, har.

I don't think it's all that likely that I'll see Rebel Captive. But Chiraneau with Predator, Captive, and Gunner is basically a worst-case scenario (scenarieau?) for my list, so it's worth giving some thought to.

And of course running Yorr also means I can chuckle at the stresshog's adorable efforts to inconvenience me, and I'm 100% certain I'll see Gold + TLT + R3-A2.

I also thought your first list was pretty good, but my later suggestions were based on a problem you felt you were having: lack of damage. It sounded like you were not happy with Omega Leader, hence FCS on whisper and Zeta Leader in place of OL. However, I really like SJ on phantoms too. I prefer it on non-whispers though, simply because I feel FCS helps with Whisper getting her free focus when she hits. Doesn't mean SJ can't work on her though.

I love OL! He's great against certain kinds of threats, a lot of which are issues in the metagame both in general and locally. He's just the component that's easiest to switch out, and he's the one that offers the greatest liability when I run into something like a well-flown Decimator.

I guess its too late to get some more practice with your original list, and see if damage output is really a problem....but at this point, any further suggestions I can make would be drastic and so probably not helpful...

I've played a total of six games with the first list (Whisper+SJ and Omega Leader), against... hell, dozens of games with various iterations of Palpatine Aces. So I'm pretty good with the shuttle, and I've been flying Phantoms for a long time. The only real question mark for me is the TIE/fo, with which I have comparatively little experience.

But I also don't know how much my fears are an artifact of actual weaknesses in the list, and how much they're a specific reaction to the kinds of lists I faced last weekend (out of four games, two against Decimators and one against BBBBZ). And I'm also sure that if I'd played a little more carefully with Omega Leader, he would have lasted longer and done more damage--he really wants to hang out at Range 2-3 and lol at your green dice. But his damage happens so slowly, so I got suckered into playing for Range 1 shots against harder-hitting opponents.

What I really want, of course, is to be able to bring a fully-loaded Echo along with Whisper and the Palpatine shuttle. Oh, and it would be nice to shoehorn Soontir in there, as well. And I guess Jax makes the Sensor Jammer really shine, so maybe I can fit him as well? Surely my opponent won't mind if I show up with a 180-point list.

Yorr not going to get better than OL for the points here brother. That's one scary duo with palp. I can barely handle OL + Vader. I've been using SJ quite a bit recently but it doesn't do much work against imperials outside of swarms. Or Poe but he's slow.

It'll be a lot of work for Whisper, that's for sure.

Gonna have to carry her squad like Lebron James in the NBA finals last year.

That tempest won't pull his weight at all. 4 games is not nearly enough for any faith to be built or lost.

Love the original list, but what about dropping Whisper down to Echo for the additional maneuvering and arc-dodging. This also frees up points to put Stealth Device on Omicron Leader and improve HIS survivability for a while.