Double obstacle overlap

By mikemcmann, in Star Wars: Armada Rules Questions

Scenario: big ass ship base overlaps asteroid and debris field

A) presumably both a face up damage card and two damage are dealt

B) is it moving ship discretion at order of receipt? As the face up may affect something

D) only one of the two is dealt?

A.

You can only overlap one ship at a time, but there is nothing to say you can't be overlapping multiple Obstacle Tokens...

However, the order of said damage is up to the player, as they are happening at the same time...

You have to gamble taking that face up before or after taking 2 damage to a Hull Zone.

Edited by Drasnighta

I did it. . . landed on an Asteroid and a debris field with my ISD. . . funny thing is, I told people this would happen when we were still speculating on the large ships last year. . . I have a video that will show the battle report. . . I will say, I laughed!

I also stacked teh order that they occurred in as I wanted because they are occurring at the same time so I took the debris then the asteroid.

I would suggest taking the normal damage first on shields if you have them still. There is a crit stating the loss of shields as additional damage. Taking that crit first might result in the other damage going to the hull.

But indeed you get both. There is no rule stating an order in these damage except the rule that states if multiple things happen at the same time, choose.

Viewing it from a flying perspective I would say the damage from the obstacle you would encounter first is dealt first but that is only if you want to play it more realistic.

Yesterday, at a Store Championship, I overlapped the Station and an asteroid simultaneously. I had a hunch I could choose the order but we asked the TO for a ruling and he said that I could not discard the received damage card (it was my first) with the station.

But if I understand you guys right the player doing the dubble overlapping could choose to take the damage first and then remove it thanks to the station?

Yesterday, at a Store Championship, I overlapped the Station and an asteroid simultaneously. I had a hunch I could choose the order but we asked the TO for a ruling and he said that I could not discard the received damage card (it was my first) with the station.

But if I understand you guys right the player doing the dubble overlapping could choose to take the damage first and then remove it thanks to the station?

This also happened to me in a tourney, and I took dmg card, then repaired it with the station, all under the watchful eye of the TO. My opponent tried to argue it was his decision but was promptly smacked down, judge dredd style (I AM the LAW!).

Remember, of course, that in a Rule Dispute during a Tournament (Dispute, being you havn't resolved it with your opponent and there is still a discrepency) - Then the TOURNAMENT JUDGE IS THE LAW

Also, there are two Similar, but Different Scenarios that are pandered around as "Answers" in Many different Topics here...

So to set things straight from an "FFG Said" Perspective:

If you overlap two Obstacles, the order of the Obstacle is both "End of Movement" and ergo, you as the active player choose the order.

If you overlap a Ship and an Obstacle ... Then the order is set - Ram Damage, then Obstacle:

Ollie124, on 29 Aug 2015 - 8:36 PM, said: snapback.png

I had this happen at a tournament at the FFG Game Center, and the guidance from one of the game developers was that the damage from the ram occurs immediately upon resolving that overlap, and then the station overlap effect takes place. In the RRG for Overlaps, it does state that the damage cards are dealt right away to both ships. And in the Obstacles section, it states effects take place after executing a maneuver. So timing of effects is ramming first then station effect. The incident that sparked this question arising at the tournament, I accidentally rammed one of my corvettes into another one of my corvettes, which resulted in the moving one ending up on the station . Neither my opponent nor myself knew for sure the resolution of effects, and fortunately had somebody official there to clarify.