Another 2 point title, but one that lets you equip two Illicit Upgrades.

Yes, they can be the same one. But should they be?

Discuss.

Tractor Beam is good enough for me.

Points, points, everywhere, so many points I despair.

I think it would make the Scyk stronger, for sure. Two Glitterstims or a Cloaking Device AND Glitterstim might be cool. It even opens up Hot Shot Blaster, maybe, but it still makes the little guys so expensive for what they can('t) do. I'm not sure that 2 attack dice behind multiple Illicits would do much good.

What ideas or combinations were you thinking of when you made this title?

I think Tractor Beam will make them an attractive filler for Scum lists. Also, Guidance Chips might provide some much-needed utility. A Cartel Spacer with Concussion Missiles, Guidance Chips and the title is 20 points for cheap. Like always, though, the big issue is getting that TL.

What ideas or combinations were you thinking of when you made this title?

2x Deadman's Switch for a start...

Stop trying to fix everything the m3a is a good ship already (at least for me)

Stop trying to fix everything the m3a is a good ship already (at least for me)

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It seems to me that people who Scyk fail are the people who try to run the HLC on them. They let they let enemy ships get within range 1 and wonder why they evaporate?!?! The answer is mangler cannons, I've been on the receiving end and the firing end and can tell you I'd rather have 5 mangler M3A than 4 xwings or four interceptors!!

Also one of the few ships that FFG ships with an awesome combo of upgrades straight out of the box.

As with any ship in the game if you over spend on those "awesome" upgrades you are asking for trouble!

Stop trying to fix everything the m3a is a good ship already (at least for me)

+1000

It seems to me that people who Scyk fail are the people who try to run the HLC on them. They let they let enemy ships get within range 1 and wonder why they evaporate?!?! The answer is mangler cannons, I've been on the receiving end and the firing end and can tell you I'd rather have 5 mangler M3A than 4 xwings or four interceptors!!

Also one of the few ships that FFG ships with an awesome combo of upgrades straight out of the box.

As with any ship in the game if you over spend on those "awesome" upgrades you are asking for trouble!

People don't run four X-wings or four Interceptors either; bad comparison. You can also have 5 Khiraxz fighters at that price point with similar damage output and won't get one-shotted. That's not a particularly attractive list either.

Any way you slice it Scyks are too expensive and fragile for what they do. Entirely useless? No. But not the place it's farthest from either.

I'd rather see the Scyk get a second (stackable?) title that lets you adds a System, Illicit or [second] Modification. That way it would be thematically similar to the original title and make the Syck uniquely versatile.

I'd rather see the Scyk get a second (stackable?) title that lets you adds a System, Illicit or [second] Modification. That way it would be thematically similar to the original title and make the Syck uniquely versatile.

As long as it somehow makes it cost less. Nearly all of the fixes have reduced the cost or increased the value of the ships at no extra cost. As it is now we've got a ship that costs 1 more point than a ship with a better dial and one more hit point for the privilege of making it cost even more.

Stop trying to fix everything the m3a is a good ship already (at least for me)

+1000

It seems to me that people who Scyk fail are the people who try to run the HLC on them. They let they let enemy ships get within range 1 and wonder why they evaporate?!?! The answer is mangler cannons, I've been on the receiving end and the firing end and can tell you I'd rather have 5 mangler M3A than 4 xwings or four interceptors!!

Also one of the few ships that FFG ships with an awesome combo of upgrades straight out of the box.

As with any ship in the game if you over spend on those "awesome" upgrades you are asking for trouble!

HLC is too expensive on them.

I like the Scyks. But right now they are more or less only flankers. Manglers is a nice option, but still glass cannon. It a pity that the Flechette cannon can not stack stress. Had some success with 1 Mangler and 1 Flechette flanker.

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Stop trying to fix everything the m3a is a good ship already (at least for me)

+1000

It seems to me that people who Scyk fail are the people who try to run the HLC on them. They let they let enemy ships get within range 1 and wonder why they evaporate?!?! The answer is mangler cannons, I've been on the receiving end and the firing end and can tell you I'd rather have 5 mangler M3A than 4 xwings or four interceptors!!

Also one of the few ships that FFG ships with an awesome combo of upgrades straight out of the box.

As with any ship in the game if you over spend on those "awesome" upgrades you are asking for trouble!

HLC is too expensive on them.

I like the Scyks. But right now they are more or less only flankers. Manglers is a nice option, but still glass cannon. It a pity that the Flechette cannon can not stack stress. Had some success with 1 Mangler and 1 Flechette flanker.

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I agree. I used to be a Scyk-hater but I've been using them a fair bit and I'm liking them more these days. 2 of them with Manglers for 40 points are pretty deadly. Dial is nice too. I used them with 3 Kihraxz' to take out a Super Dash list.

Don't expect too much from them and they will reward you.

Was thinking of a 1-2 point modification that can only be used if you take the heavy scyk title card, giving it +1 hull and or shield, but turning the one turn red

What about a title that let them equip 2 more titles with the 1st title being free. That would really open up their upgrades at least to be a cheap anything platform, but doesn't fix the squish so idk

I love me some Laetin. I used Laetin with Mangler+Stealth with 3 Y-ons at a regionals last year and got 21st. (It was the Plano at Madness with the 115 people in attendance).

The M3-As are great little ships for what they can do. Problem is that a lot of ships are now meant to kill these low hull ships fast (Wampa for example or Vader crew). I would like to see a title that gives it an illicit slot while keeping the pilots.

I've had people in my area actually build things to kill my M3-a because Laetin is so annoying.