So, I'm reading this power and I'm unlcear on how the range upgrade works. I've treid searching but I don't see any answers about my specific question (mostly people seem to care about how you can hurt NPCs with it).

The default power reads:

The user may spend [1 Force Point] to move one object of silhouette 0 that is within short range up to his maximum range. The default maximum range is short range.

The Range upgrade reads as:

Spend [1 Force Point] to increase power's range by a number of range bands equal to Range upgrades purchased.

Given the way the default power specifies short range and maximum range (default short) seperately that would seem to only apply to the maximum range, i.e. the latter part of the power's description?

So, say I upgrade to Medium Range. It would seem to me that now I can move something that is within Short Range to anywhere up to Medium Range. When I upgrade Range again to Long, I can move items from Short Range anywhere up to Long Range. But if I'm reading this correctly I don't see any way to move and object that is further away fomr me than Shrot range, no matter what I do.

Is this right? I admit I can't offhand think of an example of a Jedi grabbing something that is unequivically further than Short range, but it feels to me like if you can suspend something in the air at long range for a few minutes, maybe move it around, you should also be able to pick it up at long range.

Am I just being overly strict in my reading of the rules?

There has been a FAQ on this, assuming you manage to activate the necessary range upgrades you can affect an object inside that range.

Aha, that sounds far more reasonable. Thanks. Do you happen to know where this FAQ is?

You can also activate the range upgrade multiple times to get to extreme range.

The FAQ is one of the pinned thread in the Edge of the Empire forum.

Hi

i hijack this topic to ask some quick related question (assuming i get one range upgrade and roll enough Force Point to activate power and one time range upgrade)

wich one is true?

- i can move an engaged object up to medium range

- i can move a medium range object to me

- i can move a medium range object up to medium range from me

- i can move a medium range object up to medium range from it

Well I still havn't seen the official answer (I've tried searching the EotE FAQ topic and the FFG FAQ PDF linked within said topic but nothing on Move there), but my current understanding is:

- i can move an engaged object up to medium range <= YES

- i can move a medium range object to me <= YES

- i can move a medium range object up to medium range from me <= YES

- i can move a medium range object up to medium range from it <= NO

I think they were referring to this post:

Question asked by Kaosoe:

The book states that "if the player wants to use Move to throw multiple objects at multiple targets, he may do so using all the rules for hitting targets with the Auto-fire quality"

First question:

It's unclear to me if the autofire rules are used when throwing multiple objects due to activating Magnitude upgrades, or when trying to throw multiple objects without using the magnitude upgrades.

For example, if I am a force user wanting throwing a silhouette 0 sized stone at a 2 stormtroopers at short range. Would I...

1.) Use autofire rules and not bother activating the magnitude upgrade.

Or...

2.) Use autofire rules and still have to activate the magnitude upgrade.

Does this mean the PC can use the control upgrade to move two objects (assuming the necessary pips to activate any other upgrades for range and strength) as long as the difficulty is adjusted using the autofire rules? Or must the character also activate the necessary Magnitude upgrades as well

Second Question:

The Range upgrade says I can spend force points to increase maximum range at which he Force user can move an object. There is some disagreement between me and my players with what this means.

By default a Force user can move an object at short range. If I activate all three range upgrades, would my character be able to move an object that is starting at Extreme range from my character, or just move an object from short range all the way to extreme range if I want?

Answered by Sam Stewart:

To your first question, you would still have to activate Magnitude to throw multiple objects. So you’d have to spend all the Force points, and increase the difficulty, and target the most difficult target.

To your second question, range upgrades increase the range that you can start effecting objects.

Hi

i hijack this topic to ask some quick related question (assuming i get one range upgrade and roll enough Force Point to activate power and one time range upgrade)

wich one is true?

- i can move an engaged object up to medium range

- i can move a medium range object to me

- i can move a medium range object up to medium range from me

- i can move a medium range object up to medium range from it

1) True

2) True

3) True

4) False, unless the object is still within Med range of you (like in question 3).

The range limits are relative to the PC.

I think they were referring to this post:

Question asked by Kaosoe:

The book states that "if the player wants to use Move to throw multiple objects at multiple targets, he may do so using all the rules for hitting targets with the Auto-fire quality"

First question:

It's unclear to me if the autofire rules are used when throwing multiple objects due to activating Magnitude upgrades, or when trying to throw multiple objects without using the magnitude upgrades.

For example, if I am a force user wanting throwing a silhouette 0 sized stone at a 2 stormtroopers at short range. Would I...

1.) Use autofire rules and not bother activating the magnitude upgrade.

Or...

2.) Use autofire rules and still have to activate the magnitude upgrade.

Does this mean the PC can use the control upgrade to move two objects (assuming the necessary pips to activate any other upgrades for range and strength) as long as the difficulty is adjusted using the autofire rules? Or must the character also activate the necessary Magnitude upgrades as well

Second Question:

The Range upgrade says I can spend force points to increase maximum range at which he Force user can move an object. There is some disagreement between me and my players with what this means.

By default a Force user can move an object at short range. If I activate all three range upgrades, would my character be able to move an object that is starting at Extreme range from my character, or just move an object from short range all the way to extreme range if I want?

Answered by Sam Stewart:

To your first question, you would still have to activate Magnitude to throw multiple objects. So you’d have to spend all the Force points, and increase the difficulty, and target the most difficult target.

To your second question, range upgrades increase the range that you can start effecting objects.

Thanks, that is precisely what I was looking for. Appearently searching doesn't work on text underneath spoiler tags?

Thanks, that is precisely what I was looking for. Appearently searching doesn't work on text underneath spoiler tags?

It should, but the search function here sometimes seems to have a mind of its own.