I got into Armada before X-wing wave 7 was released. X-wing has recently become very popular at my local store and I've decided I need to update my collection. I remember being excited about wave 7 but looking at it now I can't tell why.

Is wave 7 underwhelming? I don't see people playing or even talking about the ships. It seems like the best thing out of the wave is TLT. Is ordinance ok now or is it still pretty bad?

What is the most fun ship from wave 7? What is the most powerful?

Houndstooth, Punisher and KHraisxiasga;dlgha;sdj are not that great. The K-Wing is probably the best of the wave and it doesn't show up too much.

Ordanance is still pretty much dreck.

Punisher, Houndstooth, and K-wing are seen alot in fun lists.

The KHIRAD:SDCN:SDUNSGALHFJS is bad... it's a bad version of an T-65 xwing.

I think scum really won wave 7, as far as ships go. The Hounds Tooth added a lot more to the scum meta than K-wings or Punishers did to the rebel/imperial meta. That being said TLT was the other big game changer.

Extra Munitions is a good boost for bombers, but didn't do much to make ordnance good for everyone else. I predict that targeting chips or long range scanners in conjunction with extra munitions will finally start making corps and missiles really appealing.

I got into Armada before X-wing wave 7 was released. X-wing has recently become very popular at my local store and I've decided I need to update my collection. I remember being excited about wave 7 but looking at it now I can't tell why.

Is wave 7 underwhelming? I don't see people playing or even talking about the ships. It seems like the best thing out of the wave is TLT. Is ordinance ok now or is it still pretty bad?

What is the most fun ship from wave 7? What is the most powerful?

K wings are a menace, tie dustbins are...an aqquired taste and I don't even remember what else was in 7. So whatever it was can't have been to incredible.

Scum made out very well. The Houndstooth is a very fun ship to work with, and I am personally fond of the Khiraxz... been running a list with a YV-666 and two fighters that has been doing pretty well. Wave 7 also brought a lot of upgrade cards into the game which are not bad. I will be waiting for people to walk in and praise crackshot.

One does not praise crackshot. Crackshot praises you. It is known.

Run a Slaver with Bossk, Gunner and Tactician. Do not care about overlapping obstacles, or using white moves during a few turns if you need to block stuff. Then report here.

Wave 7 upgrades outweigh their ships, but 2 of the ships are pretty good too.

I bought only Khiraxzes and a K-wing. The Khiraxzes see use, the K-wing not yet.

The Punishest imho ugly as hell and weakest in the wave.

Still wondering if i will buy the Hound, do not like the scale deviation.

Correction, TLT is the worst to come out of wave 7...

Jokes, surely???

Crackshot - now in the top 5 of epts

Conner net - the best bomb in the game

TLT - absolute game changing turret, great for scum and rebels

Extra munitions - make ordnance viable for the first time

Glitterstim - a much-needed shot in the arm for scum lists, great theme

Kihraxz - great filler ship, 1-hard turn, cheap and cheerful

Houndstooth - not in favour, but flexible and fun ship. Viable ship, but a balancing act. May get more interesting in light of new wave 8 scum tricks like Zukuss

K-wing - best bomber in the game. Best tlt carrier in the game. best tactician carrier in the game.

Punisher - a bit of a dud imo. Interesting unique pilots, but comes in bottom of the pile.

K-Wing pilot Miranda Doni is often one of the most powerful elements in a Rebel regen squad. The K-Wing has at least that one great pilot, and of course Twin Laser Turrets reshaped the whole meta.

The 666 does have some potential in competitive squads, but I haven't seen a really great squad (PalpyAces great) featuring them yet.

The Punisher will be fine when ordnance becomes worth the points.

Like the T-65 X-Wing, the Kihraxz is too fragile to be the mainline fighter it's probably meant to be. It needs better maneuverability or durability without a significant cost increase, so we wait.

Still wondering if i will buy the Hound, do not like the scale deviation.

The Houndstooth is exact in scale to the official size of the ship. If you want an unofficial size your best bet will be 3d printing.

The KHIRAD:SDCN:SDUNSGALHFJS is bad... it's a bad version of an T-65 xwing.

What a load of bunk. The Kihraxz is fantastic.

The KHIRAD:SDCN:SDUNSGALHFJS is bad... it's a bad version of an T-65 xwing.

What a load of bunk. The Kihraxz is fantastic.

It's a more fragile version of the T-65...

The T-65 is not good right now... therefore the Kiraxzxhfdy is bad as well.

If you can't tell by the amount of mixed responses in this topic, all of wave 7 is at the very least OK and it has some nice upgrade cards as well. Buy whatever ships fit what faction/style of game you like to play.

The KHIRAD:SDCN:SDUNSGALHFJS is bad... it's a bad version of an T-65 xwing.

What a load of bunk. The Kihraxz is fantastic.

It's a more fragile version of the T-65...

The T-65 is not good right now... therefore the Kiraxzxhfdy is bad as well.

Yet Wedge, Luke, And Hobby took first, and dominated, at my last store tourney. Please tell me more about how the T-65 sucks.

The KHIRAD:SDCN:SDUNSGALHFJS is bad... it's a bad version of an T-65 xwing.

What a load of bunk. The Kihraxz is fantastic.

It's a more fragile version of the T-65...

The T-65 is not good right now... therefore the Kiraxzxhfdy is bad as well.

This is incredibly flawed logic.

4/1 health and 3 red for 20pts is not a huge steal on its own... What makes the kihraxz for me is its hard-1 turn. That puts it in the top half of dials, and the two k-turns are nice too. It can joust, then hard turn to take shots of opportunity, hard one again to track, etc. On a ship with decent attack (3 red, & TL action) it's a beast of a move.

The KHIRAD:SDCN:SDUNSGALHFJS is bad... it's a bad version of an T-65 xwing.

What a load of bunk. The Kihraxz is fantastic.

It's a more fragile version of the T-65...

The T-65 is not good right now... therefore the Kiraxzxhfdy is bad as well.

Yet Wedge, Luke, And Hobby took first, and dominated, at my last store tourney. Please tell me more about how the T-65 sucks.

If you can't take out 3x T-65s that says much more about a lack of pilot skill/ list buildling skill at your local store than it does about the quality of the ship.

Evenflow30

To respond to you, how is my logic flawed? The Khiraxz is demonstrably worse than the T-65 stat wise 1 extra hull and 1 fewer shield makes it squishy as all heck. It's dial is better but they still fail at what they were intended to do, joust.

If you like the ship more power to you. It's not a good ship but hey I like A-wings.

Redline is amazing. Though the generics are a little meh. Unless you want a systems upgrade, bombers are more efficient.

The KHIRAD:SDCN:SDUNSGALHFJS is bad... it's a bad version of an T-65 xwing.

What a load of bunk. The Kihraxz is fantastic.

It's a more fragile version of the T-65...

The T-65 is not good right now... therefore the Kiraxzxhfdy is bad as well.

Yet Wedge, Luke, And Hobby took first, and dominated, at my last store tourney. Please tell me more about how the T-65 sucks.

If you can't take out 3x T-65s that says much more about a lack of pilot skill/ list buildling skill at your local store than it does about the quality of the ship.

Evenflow30

To respond to you, how is my logic flawed? The Khiraxz is demonstrably worse than the T-65 stat wise 1 extra hull and 1 fewer shield makes it squishy as all heck. It's dial is better but they still fail at what they were intended to do, joust.

If you like the ship more power to you. It's not a good ship but hey I like A-wings.

1 extra hull at the cost of a shield doesnt make you that much squishier. It literally only matters if that exact 1 point of damage comes up as a crit. And even then some crits are worse than others

The KHIRAD:SDCN:SDUNSGALHFJS is bad... it's a bad version of an T-65 xwing.

What a load of bunk. The Kihraxz is fantastic.

It's a more fragile version of the T-65...

The T-65 is not good right now... therefore the Kiraxzxhfdy is bad as well.

Yet Wedge, Luke, And Hobby took first, and dominated, at my last store tourney. Please tell me more about how the T-65 sucks.

If you can't take out 3x T-65s that says much more about a lack of pilot skill/ list buildling skill at your local store than it does about the quality of the ship.

Evenflow30

To respond to you, how is my logic flawed? The Khiraxz is demonstrably worse than the T-65 stat wise 1 extra hull and 1 fewer shield makes it squishy as all heck. It's dial is better but they still fail at what they were intended to do, joust.

If you like the ship more power to you. It's not a good ship but hey I like A-wings.

2. Cartel Marauders with glitterstim or Black Sun Aces with crackshot and Stim work just fine in scum lists.

3. Not sure if you have scum ships or if you've tried flying Kihraxz, but if you haven't give it a try! I feel sometimes people just make assumptions based on other people's experiences. Sure if x amount of people fly a ship and come to a similar conclusion its probably accurate, but you never now until you try it with your own style of play.

4. When you are fighting close, the white 1 turns can really make a difference (which the T-65 doesn't have).

5. I like A-wings too! This we can agree upon sir!

Scum made out very well. The Houndstooth is a very fun ship to work with, and I am personally fond of the Khiraxz... been running a list with a YV-666 and two fighters that has been doing pretty well. Wave 7 also brought a lot of upgrade cards into the game which are not bad. I will be waiting for people to walk in and praise crackshot.

Do you mind sharing your list? I've been trying to devise YV-666 lists lately (primarily with Latts Razzi), but without the opportunity to try any of them out yet, I was wondering how two accompanying Kihraxz Fighters would actually fare.

Some upgrades that are really critical. And k wing genetics and Miranda. That's it. :/.