FFG does something stupid!

By Desslok, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

Okay, this is probably a temporary burp in the supply chain - but this is frustrating. Here it is, a week-ish after Lead by Example's release and there's not a store in the Pacific Northwest that seems to have it. Nothing in Seattle, nothing in the greater Puget Sound area - and when I went down to Portland yesterday on a completely unrelated errand, none of the game stores I visited had them.


Yeah, first world problem, and it's not that a big deal since I don't have a Commander at my table - but yeah, everyone else in the country having them and not me sucks.

I saw some at Game Matrix in Tacoma on Saturday. I'm pretty sure Blue Sky & Game Wizard in downtown Bremerton have one, as they usually stay pretty well stocked. The Comics Keep, in Bremerton, where I got mine does not currently have one.

Then I must have terrible luck, because Card Kingdom doesn't have any, Uncle's Games doesn't and the places in Portland don't.

And we see why FFG stopped doing release dates.

They used to do them, until they missed a release for one of the Rogue Trader books and everyone went bananas. Suddenly, no release dates any more.

Several online vendors selling book today for 25-30% off...with free fed ex/shipping if your order total is $100+. In stock. Not Amazon, the other ones...

Okay, this is probably a temporary burp in the supply chain - but this is frustrating. Here it is, a week-ish after Lead by Example's release and there's not a store in the Pacific Northwest that seems to have it. Nothing in Seattle, nothing in the greater Puget Sound area - and when I went down to Portland yesterday on a completely unrelated errand, none of the game stores I visited had them.
Yeah, first world problem, and it's not that a big deal since I don't have a Commander at my table - but yeah, everyone else in the country having them and not me sucks.

The specs are decent, but 2 of the 3 really need to have mass combat a regular part of a campaign to get full value. The lack of much in the way of personal gear was a little off putting for me. Of the AoR career books it's definitely the one aimed at an AoR campaign directly. Point being that if you don't have any CMDRs and aren't running an AoR game, you'll be ok D, they'll get more eventually.

Yeaaaah, but I want it NAAAAOU!!!

:)

Yeaaaah, but I want it NAAAAOU!!!

:)

I just ordered from MM. Like I said, it's decent, but hardly must have unless you are really wanting mass combat.

Nothing in the UK either. The guys I know who run the game shops are pretty confused over this.

I'd like it because we have two Commanders and really wanted to try a mass battles/Master&Commander type campaign... (We've been in discussions for months about a player potentially playing the leader of one of the main factions, with all that would entail...)

I'll second 2P51 that I'm surprised at the lack of personal gear and general 'crunch' in this one, though.

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Okay, this is probably a temporary burp in the supply chain - but this is frustrating. Here it is, a week-ish after Lead by Example's release and there's not a store in the Pacific Northwest that seems to have it. Nothing in Seattle, nothing in the greater Puget Sound area - and when I went down to Portland yesterday on a completely unrelated errand, none of the game stores I visited had them.
Yeah, first world problem, and it's not that a big deal since I don't have a Commander at my table - but yeah, everyone else in the country having them and not me sucks.

The specs are decent, but 2 of the 3 really need to have mass combat a regular part of a campaign to get full value. The lack of much in the way of personal gear was a little off putting for me. Of the AoR career books it's definitely the one aimed at an AoR campaign directly. Point being that if you don't have any CMDRs and aren't running an AoR game, you'll be ok D, they'll get more eventually.

I'm AFB, but I only recall one talent (Cool Commander) of the Figurehead being Mass Combat aimed, and it can easily be skipped over in the tree.

Calm Commander for Figurehead. Clever Commander and Master Strategist for Strategist. I did say they were decent. Not astounding but decent.

Nothing in the UK either. The guys I know who run the game shops are pretty confused over this.

I'd like it because we have two Commanders and really wanted to try a mass battles/Master&Commander type campaign... (We've been in discussions for months about a player potentially playing the leader of one of the main factions, with all that would entail...)

I'll second 2P51 that I'm surprised at the lack of personal gear and general 'crunch' in this one, though.

probably snowpocalype

Though I just got an email from FRP Games (the online retailer I get most of my rpg books from) and they let me know that they'll be refunding my pre order for Nexus of Power because FFG has opted to cut business ties with smaller retailers .... :(

Though I just got an email from FRP Games (the online retailer I get most of my rpg books from) and they let me know that they'll be refunding my pre order for Nexus of Power because FFG has opted to cut business ties with smaller retailers .... :(

Ouch.

Still nothing in the UK.

I have a friend at Esdevium Games through which pretty much everything gaming-related enters my country...

Though I just got an email from FRP Games (the online retailer I get most of my rpg books from) and they let me know that they'll be refunding my pre order for Nexus of Power because FFG has opted to cut business ties with smaller retailers .... :(

Ouch.

Still nothing in the UK.

I have a friend at Esdevium Games through which pretty much everything gaming-related enters my country...

That's a good friend to have. Right up there with pub owner and billionaire....

Though I just got an email from FRP Games (the online retailer I get most of my rpg books from) and they let me know that they'll be refunding my pre order for Nexus of Power because FFG has opted to cut business ties with smaller retailers .... :(

Ouch.

Still nothing in the UK.

I have a friend at Esdevium Games through which pretty much everything gaming-related enters my country...

Yeah ...... I'm pretty much left wondering who constitutes big retailer in regards to FFG now. I suppose I'll get it through Amazon when it comes up to them. At least with Prime i get free shipping.

Though I just got an email from FRP Games (the online retailer I get most of my rpg books from) and they let me know that they'll be refunding my pre order for Nexus of Power because FFG has opted to cut business ties with smaller retailers .... :(

I'm guessing that means that FFG is requiring businesses to have a specific volume of orders with them, just like distributors prefer. They can't stop a company from getting the products, just probably not doing it direct from FFG.

We could end up with Wholesalers ordering from FFG, then retailers buying from the Wholesalers. More middle people equals higher prices or lower margins... Bad for everyone :(

We could end up with Wholesalers ordering from FFG, then retailers buying from the Wholesalers. More middle people equals higher prices or lower margins... Bad for everyone :(

What do you think distributors are?

Though I just got an email from FRP Games (the online retailer I get most of my rpg books from) and they let me know that they'll be refunding my pre order for Nexus of Power because FFG has opted to cut business ties with smaller retailers .... :(

I'm guessing that means that FFG is requiring businesses to have a specific volume of orders with them, just like distributors prefer. They can't stop a company from getting the products, just probably not doing it direct from FFG.

Still kinda sucks for someone who gets his books online. Means I have to wait for Amazon to get their stock which tends to take longer than online stores that are dedicated to providing gaming books.

FFG is not impressing me.

See also buying properties and then letting them sit for years.

See also triple-dipping on the Star Wars line.

Though I just got an email from FRP Games (the online retailer I get most of my rpg books from) and they let me know that they'll be refunding my pre order for Nexus of Power because FFG has opted to cut business ties with smaller retailers .... :(

I'm guessing that means that FFG is requiring businesses to have a specific volume of orders with them, just like distributors prefer. They can't stop a company from getting the products, just probably not doing it direct from FFG.

Still kinda sucks for someone who gets his books online. Means I have to wait for Amazon to get their stock which tends to take longer than online stores that are dedicated to providing gaming books.

I got Lead by Example via Miniature Market johnny on the spot.

FFG is not impressing me.

See also buying properties and then letting them sit for years.

See also triple-dipping on the Star Wars line.

It takes years to develop something. IIRC It was around 3 years from the time they purchased the LA license to the release of the Edge of the Empire core book. Companies don't develop something without the license on the hope of getting it.

Though I just got an email from FRP Games (the online retailer I get most of my rpg books from) and they let me know that they'll be refunding my pre order for Nexus of Power because FFG has opted to cut business ties with smaller retailers .... :(

I'm guessing that means that FFG is requiring businesses to have a specific volume of orders with them, just like distributors prefer. They can't stop a company from getting the products, just probably not doing it direct from FFG.

Still kinda sucks for someone who gets his books online. Means I have to wait for Amazon to get their stock which tends to take longer than online stores that are dedicated to providing gaming books.

No, it doesn't. Means that FRP just has to get the books another way if they want to have them to sell.

FFG is not impressing me.

See also buying properties and then letting them sit for years.

See also triple-dipping on the Star Wars line.

It takes years to develop something. IIRC It was around 3 years from the time they purchased the LA license to the release of the Edge of the Empire core book. Companies don't develop something without the license on the hope of getting it.

Historically, several have.

I can confirm that, in the case of Starships & Spacemen, the designer designed it as a Star Trek game, then went to Paramount, found the license too expensive, stripped the Trek IP, and released it as a Trek-like game.

MegaTraveller was essentially already in development when DGP got licensed to do it as an official edition; it was Joe and Gary Fugate's house rules.

Last Unicorn implied that Dune was being developed before they could secure the license, primarily for their own staff use.

Burning Wheel: Jyhad is an unlicensed Dune RPG... serial numbers barely obfuscated.

Eden Studios did Firefly... but didn't seek the license soon enough... and so released "Space Western" rules in their house organ for Cinematic Unisystem.

Matthew Sprangue was trying to develop Star Wars Traveller rules; He didn't get the license. Apparently, according to Matthew, they'd licensed FFG the day before. Or, more correctly, Matthew claims they told him this. MGT 2E is matthew's attempt to do it unlicensed by LFL...but he has been reined in somewhat by the license he does have. (I don't know the contents of the Marc-Matthew discussion, but I do know the effects: 6-second space combat round, gone; shooting starships out of the sky with small arms gone. FTL commo gone, too.)

Dozens of unlicensed conversions have been done by gaming companies because staffers wanted to play X in system Y... and sometimes they get leaked. Sometimes, they simply file the IP elements off, and release them anyway.