Obi Wan: flip this card to remove a stress, tractor or ion token. Flipped side FORCE GHOST Obi Wan once per round any friendly ship may spend a focus token to reroll any number of attack dice instead of its usual effect.

Yoda: you may, or may not. There is no try.

Turning a card over means you're discarding it, as per the rules.

Not if it's double sided (maybe) we don't know what Dual Upgrades might be able to do yet.

But in that case, 'discard this card and replace it with FORCE GHOST Obi Wan for the remainder of the game' would work instead, and give the force ghost the cost '*' indicating that it can't be paid for with squad points.

Do we know that dual upgrades are double sided? And even more so (and this would make sense given the emails about R2-D6 and Integrated Astromechs): currently you can't discard your EPT.

You can lose crewmembers though or other upgrades though, and discarding is now done by flipping the card over.

We don't know for absolutely certain, but given that we've seen two different sorts of art for Adaptability, and two different effects, and only one of the sets of artwork is visible on both copies in Mist Hunter, it seems likely that they will be doubel sided with the other artwork (and effect) on both sides.

But we have 0 idea of how the rules for them will work as yet.

We definitely need Ahsoka both as a pilot and crew.

Rebellion Force Users in the game:

Luke

Kyle

Kanan

Corran

Leia

Imperial Force users in the game:

Palpatine

Vader

There is an imbalance in the force.

Neither Corran nor Leia's ability in game has to do with their Force-sensitivity though.

So that leaves Luke, Kyle, Keyan, Kanan vs Palpatine, Vader, Stele, Mara Jade and the incoming Inquisitor.

Neither Corran nor Leia's ability in game has to do with their Force-sensitivity though.

So that leaves Luke, Kyle, Keyan, Kanan vs Palpatine, Vader, Stele, Mara Jade and the incoming Inquisitor.

Leia's ability removes stress while Mara gives stress. If one doesn't count, the other doesn't either.

Corran attacks twice because he's crazy skilled from being a Jedi, so that counts too.

Isnt the WHOLE POINT about the OT and the GCW that the jedi are 'almost extinct' and that Luke is a 'new hope' and even he isnt a proper jedi really?

"The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen plans"

or something like that...

Obi-Wan can be a dual card, one side as a crew, able to disable the effects of a tractor beam. The other side a force ghost modification or title, can only be assigned to a ship with Luke Skywalker (pilot or crew)

1)he grants Luke a free Target Lock when he declares a target for an attack,

Or

2)when attacking change 1 focus to a hit/crit result. (basically gives him Poe's ability without the need of a focus token.)

Or

3)you may fire a torpedo without a target lock (switched off targeting computer)

Neither Corran nor Leia's ability in game has to do with their Force-sensitivity though.

So that leaves Luke, Kyle, Keyan, Kanan vs Palpatine, Vader, Stele, Mara Jade and the incoming Inquisitor.

Leia's ability removes stress while Mara gives stress. If one doesn't count, the other doesn't either.

Corran attacks twice because he's crazy skilled from being a Jedi, so that counts too.

Leia doesn't remove stress. Leia's ability as an inspiring general and one of the Rebellion's leaders is to allow pilots to make more daring maneuvers.

And Corran is just a light triggerfinger from his police days. .

Obi Wan Kenobi

(1 crew)

Once per round when a friendly ship at range 1-2 attacks with a missile or torpedo, you may add a crit to that attack.

5pt

The idea is from A New Hope where Ghost Obi Wan helps luke with that final attack. And hopefully will provide the serious boost that ordinance requires in my humble opinion.-


Yoda
(1 crew)

Once per round at the start of the combat phase you may perform a tractor beam action on a friendly small ship within range 1-3, then remove all tractor beam tokens from that ship.

8pt

The idea is from Empire Strikes Back where Yoda moves the X-wing out of the swamp. It should provide an interesting counter to enemy high ps arc-dodgers and the comming 3xTractor beam Defender Terror we are about to experience.

Isnt the WHOLE POINT about the OT and the GCW that the jedi are 'almost extinct' and that Luke is a 'new hope' and even he isnt a proper jedi really?

"The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen plans"

or something like that...

And then in the EU there's a new jedi every other book....

We already have a Luke Skywalker card representing him as fresh-off-the-moisture-farm, non-jedi. Maybe a new version of him to signify his newly trained abilities?

Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight (5)

Friendly ships at range 1 may ignore stress-applying effects from enemy ships.

Obi Wan Kenobi

(1 crew)

Once per round when a friendly ship at range 1-2 attacks with a missile or torpedo, you may add a crit to that attack.

5pt

The idea is from A New Hope where Ghost Obi Wan helps luke with that final attack. And hopefully will provide the serious boost that ordinance requires in my humble opinion.-

Yoda

(1 crew)

Once per round at the start of the combat phase you may perform a tractor beam action on a friendly small ship within range 1-3, then remove all tractor beam tokens from that ship.

8pt

The idea is from Empire Strikes Back where Yoda moves the X-wing out of the swamp. It should provide an interesting counter to enemy high ps arc-dodgers and the comming 3xTractor beam Defender Terror we are about to experience.

Trouble with this is that the Tractor Token card specifies that the opponent of the receiving ship controls its tractor movement, even if the token was applied by a friendly. It's an annoying piece of missed design space.

Yoda 4 points

Crew, you cannot assign this card to a ship.

When a friendly ship takes damage, you may immediately remove that ship from the board (go into exile). The opposing player gains double points for that ship removed. In the next game, Yoda can be used to increase the pilot skill of Luke Skywalker to an 11 and grant him an extra evade dice during the game.

Obi-Wan Kenobi - Crew

When the ship to which Obi-Wan Kenobi is attached is destroyed, all other friendly ships gain 1 attack die and 1 agility die.

"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine..."

The problem with that is that Obi-Wan and Yoda, to the best of our knowledge, never aided the Rebellion in combat.

Didn't watch the first Star Wars movie did you?

The Emperor crew card gives precedent for a Obiwan crew card IMO. Right now the closest thing Rebels have is C3PO.

Some passive, unlimited range effect for 5 points would fit right in.

I wouldn't want to see Yoda before Obiwan, and even then I'm not sure he really fits in X-wing IMO.

Call it the "Jedi Master" card. Put a pic of Obi Wan and Yoda on It, but not specify it as either character.

How about a Starkiller card, usable by multiple factions? Empire and Rebellion and Scum?

Maybe even make it non-unique to represent his cloning?

Isnt the WHOLE POINT about the OT and the GCW that the jedi are 'almost extinct' and that Luke is a 'new hope' and even he isnt a proper jedi really?

"The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen plans"

or something like that...

And then in the EU there's a new jedi every other book....

Yea, but Kyle/Corran don't technically become Jedi until well after RotJ even in the EU.

Kanan/Ezra are a bit more questionable, but if you read his comic series it actually makes a lot of sense. He actively hid being trained and was only a Padawan when he had to go into hiding. I also would not at all be surprised if neither Ahsoka nor Kanan make it through the entirety of the Rebels show alive (that is pure speculation though). Which would mean the Tarkin's statement would still be true.

Their "fire being out of the universe" doesn't necessarily mean they are all dead. It just means they have no real power anymore. Which is definitely true even though Yoda and Obi-Wan (two Jedi Masters) were still alive at the beginning of ANH.

Yoda. Crew. 5 pts.

At the beginning of the combat phase a friendly ship may perform a free boost or barrel roll. They may do so even if they have already perform that action this round.

Obi wan is difficult, there is actually much to go on from the OT. I like how he disabled the death stars tractor beam.... Maybe make it an effect that green dice cannot be affected by opponents (crack shot, tractor beam, wedge)...

The problem with that is that Obi-Wan and Yoda, to the best of our knowledge, never aided the Rebellion in combat.

Didn't watch the first Star Wars movie did you?

"...never aided the Rebellion in combat." Show me where, in A New Hope, Obi-Wan is aboard a Rebel Alliance ship during combat.

The problem with that is that Obi-Wan and Yoda, to the best of our knowledge, never aided the Rebellion in combat.

Didn't watch the first Star Wars movie did you?

"...never aided the Rebellion in combat." Show me where, in A New Hope, Obi-Wan is aboard a Rebel Alliance ship during combat.

He did turn off a tractor beam and we have those now. Discard his crew card to negate a single tractor beam attack. Boom, just like the movie.

The problem with that is that Obi-Wan and Yoda, to the best of our knowledge, never aided the Rebellion in combat.

Didn't watch the first Star Wars movie did you?

"...never aided the Rebellion in combat." Show me where, in A New Hope, Obi-Wan is aboard a Rebel Alliance ship during combat.

He did turn off a tractor beam and we have those now. Discard his crew card to negate a single tractor beam attack. Boom, just like the movie.

Obi-wan the first dual face crew card.

Obi-Wan: On anyone attack; You may use this card to re-roll any number of attack dice. Once that is done flip with card.

Force Presence: The next turn when attacking and when defending you may turn any focus dice to either hit or evade. Then discard this card.

7 points?

That would be overcosted IMO--that's just a 1.5 use Glitterstim. I like where you're going with it, though.

I like the idea of a dual sided card a lot! Make the "live" side a fairly solid passive ability, then make the "ghost" side a really strong one use ability. You'd be sacrificing the passive to get a really strong boost in the short term.

"...never aided the Rebellion in combat." Show me where, in A New Hope, Obi-Wan is aboard a Rebel Alliance ship during combat.

Now you're adding additional qualifiers to your statement that you didn't use originally.

He travels in a Rebel ship. He fights the Empire.

You could make it something much less situational, and more suitably powerful for Obi-wan by allowing him to remove any 1 token from the ship he's on.

Tractor beam, stress, red target lock, ion, etc.