Throughout the debates of EU/Legends vs Nu Disney Canon there is an entire age of SW lore that is all but forgotten. I'm talking of the Pre Zahn, Pre WEG stuff that was actually released in the OT time window, well before any canon policy was in place or argued over.

Stuff like the OT Novelizations, Radio Dramas, Lando and Han books, Marvel Comics (over 100 issues! Plus the UK stuff) two seperate daily comic strips, Splinter of the Minds Eye, the holiday special and all the other TV ventures like Droids, Ewoks and the two Ewok movies. Not to mention ET and Raiders had Easter eggs linking them to the OT. All of this now exists in the forgotten mists of time because of the second and even third generation of fans being totally ignorant of it or immediately dismissing it as juvenile when first introduced to it.

WHAT A MISSED OPPORTUNITY!

This is among the earliest SW to ever exist! This should be the first stopping off point on any SW extra curricular studies. Instead it is all ignored and forgotten.

Sure much of it contradicts the OT or later movies, and even contradicts other sources from the 76-86 era. But there is still much to mine for rich idea, plots and characters.

Let's not forget the first golden age of SW.

Yeah, but virtually all of that stuff sucked beyond belief, so it is best forgotten.

The Gladiator made it into Armada, and was originally from Droids.

Yeah, but virtually all of that stuff sucked beyond belief, so it is best forgotten.

Were you talking about the prequels just then?

Sure much of it contradicts the OT or later movies, and even contradicts other sources from the 76-86 era. But there is still much to mine for rich idea, plots and characters.

Let's not forget the first golden age of SW.

Han Solo Adventures trilogy could provide some Scum pilots and crew - and maybe even a ship or two from the Corporate Sector.

I could see some characters, and maybe even ships (4 bridge-domed Star Destroyer, for example) from Marvel SW working for X-wing or Armada.

I get your point that a lot of stuff that came out before the end of the first run of films was alright to a degree as there was not some gaping void to fil for 'star wars content'.... a void largely filled with pretty poor stuff.

But... even at the height of the star wars craze some stuff should best be left forgotten

I remind you of the 'star wars christmas special' with chewies family and 'life day'

You really want *that* kept in?

I get your point that a lot of stuff that came out before the end of the first run of films was alright to a degree as there was not some gaping void to fil for 'star wars content'.... a void largely filled with pretty poor stuff.

But... even at the height of the star wars craze some stuff should best be left forgotten

I remind you of the 'star wars christmas special' with chewies family and 'life day'

You really want *that* kept in?

One cannot exterminatus in extremis a planet that doesn't exist.

I remind you of the 'star wars christmas special' with chewies family and 'life day'

You really want *that* kept in?

They can reference things without recanonizing whole works - Tarkin novel references events from Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader (by the same author) - but the novel itself remains non-canon.

And yes, Chewie has a wife called "Malla" in the newcanon:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Malla

Yeah wookiees are kinda cool.

The Gungans though.... I can see them being massacred.

The Gungans though.... I can see them being massacred.

Naboo nearly got wrecked by an Imperial storm-making weather control superweapon very shortly after ROTJ (Shattered Empire) but Leia and other pilots destroy the weapon before serious damage is inflicted.

Throughout the debates of EU/Legends vs Nu Disney Canon there is an entire age of SW lore that is all but forgotten.

What pre-Disney canon are you speaking of?

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T?

D?

S?

C?

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Throughout the debates of EU/Legends vs Nu Disney Canon there is an entire age of SW lore that is all but forgotten.

What pre-Disney canon are you speaking of?

G?

T?

D?

S?

C?

The list:

Stuff like the OT Novelizations, Radio Dramas, Lando and Han books, Marvel Comics (over 100 issues! Plus the UK stuff) two seperate daily comic strips, Splinter of the Minds Eye, the holiday special and all the other TV ventures like Droids, Ewoks and the two Ewok movies

Most of these are C-canon (even the novelizations and radio dramas were only G-Canon where the content in them came directly from Lucas - otherwise they were C-canon).

Marvel Star Wars went through a period of being considered "S-canon" - but in practice, much of its content ended up being reiterated in C-canon sources.

The fact that there are six levels of canonicity should be enough to convince anyone that the whole thing had grown into a radioactive pile of dung, with a rose blooming here and there on top.

There were a great many entertaining stories - the problem was - the timeline had gotten severely cramped in some periods (Clone Wars era and OT era spring to mind).

The fact that there are six levels of canonicity should be enough to convince anyone that the whole thing had grown into a radioactive pile of dung, with a rose blooming here and there on top.

Actually, the fact that they organized the canon like that was a really good thing.

It simply isn't possibles in a franchise this large to maintain total consistency across all works in all media. Contradictions are GOING to happen. Having some sort of tiered system of authoritative works makes a lot more sense than a free for all. SW, even at its most haphazard and inconsistent, has always been worlds more coherent that the Star Trek EU, even before the JJ alternate timeline. Hell. They couldn't even keep things consistent before Next Gen, and after that I don't think they even tried anymore.

Stuff like the OT Novelizations, Radio Dramas

As far as I know the novelizations were considered canon. I think they still are, most people don't mention them but I thought I saw them listed at some point.

Most of the rest is stuff that was various levels of canon before.

Splinter of the Minds Eye, the holiday special

Both of these were declared non-canon some time ago.

The fact that there are six levels of canonicity should be enough to convince anyone that the whole thing had grown into a radioactive pile of dung, with a rose blooming here and there on top.

Actually, the fact that they organized the canon like that was a really good thing.

It simply isn't possibles in a franchise this large to maintain total consistency across all works in all media.

The question "is it canon" is really a binary question, you shouldn't have to answer it with a special explanation of just how canon it might be.

Just maintain some control over what happens to which character and leave it at that.

It's that whole mess (and the shabby quality control) that made me lose interest in keeping up with the EU.

Same with Marvel or DC, I wouldn't know where to start, it's all too much and intertwined.

Both of these were declared non-canon some time ago.

They were declared part of the "Legendsverse" along with much else.

But Splinter was certainly being referenced prior to the Legends announcement, even in post-PT works (The Rise & Fall of Darth Vader).

The Holiday Special was mostly ignored by the rest of the Legendsverse (never declared Infinities though) but the rest of Chewie's family, at least, get appearances elsewhere.

As far as I know the novelizations were considered canon. I think they still are, most people don't mention them but I thought I saw them listed at some point.

I distinctly remember that the original novelisation of a new hope (then just "Star Wars") that I had as a kid identified the emperor as a powerless figurehead and puppet, unaware of the atrocities being committed in his name by the likes of Vader and Tarkin.

it's all too much and intertwined.

And unavoidable.