The fix should've been Targeting Astromech, which should've been a 2 point k4 clone instead of what it is

Ys with their TWO green maneuvers wouldn't touch it

Poe/corran would be found dead without r2d2 (or r5p9 for poe)

Xwings would've been scary buggers

I would like to see something that makes astromechs an auto include, thematically they never flew without one. So a point reduction for them is nice, even if only 1 point. A 1 point reduction shouldn't make R2D2 too powerful either. That 1 extra point on a Corran or Poe won't break the game.

A free Ewing only system upgrade could add the boost action, then Corran would have to choose that or FCS.

Then add a named Astromech(R2A3, would fit nice for Wedge) for 3 points that gives a free focus or evade after a boost (could even add after executing a green maneuver).

MODIFIED Fighter (horrible name)
X-Wing and E-Wing only
Equip your ship with an additional Modification. Reduce each modification cost by 1/2, round down.

My only beef with this one is that it is nearly identical to the Royal Guard TIE. I know they do repeats from time to time, but I would rather something new. Still IA and Targeting chips would feel nice an fluffy.


ROUGE SQUADRON/LEADER
X-Wing and E-Wing only
Equip your ship with an additional Elite Talent. Reduce each elite talent cost by 1/2, round down

Wedge and Corran with PTL/Wing Man would be a lot of fun, but I am not sure it would address the rookies.

Honestly, I would love to see a unique title (Rogue Leader for example) that improves all the X wings in some way. While within 1-3 all X-wings can... blah. I just don't know what Blah is. Maybe a reroll on defense dice or something? And more R2 units. Always more of those.

That's just my take though.

I just played a campaign game and boy those X-Wing with IA were a pain for my Tie Fighters. I don't mind if they come with an X-Wing Title similar to the Royal Guard Tie Interceptor where the PS is greater than 4 or something with a bonus of some type.

Maybe a Rouge squadron title that adds a twist to the IG title, ships with this card can share elite talents. Problem with this is it won't help the ships without and elite talent.

I just played a campaign game and boy those X-Wing with IA were a pain for my Tie Fighters. I don't mind if they come with an X-Wing Title similar to the Royal Guard Tie Interceptor where the PS is greater than 4 or something with a bonus of some type.

Do we want Tarn to be able to take this or not?

While IA helps, it is not going to be the fix needed to get the T-65, non-Corran E, and generic T-70 in the game.

Wrong. Except for the E-wing. That it does nothing for the E-wing is something of a fact.

The general consensus is they are over prices by a few points.

Prior to the 1pt uber shield upgrade that is IA, yes. Now? No.

And the T-65 needs more actions (post movement maneuvers)

I disagree, that'd just turn it into a T-70.

I just played a campaign game and boy those X-Wing with IA were a pain for my Tie Fighters. I don't mind if they come with an X-Wing Title similar to the Royal Guard Tie Interceptor where the PS is greater than 4 or something with a bonus of some type.

Do we want Tarn to be able to take this or not?

Tarn can be pretty nasty with just R7 and IA.

Which begs the question, why didn't the E-wing get to use IA?

Which begs the question, why didn't the E-wing get to use IA?

Because it would make Corran too strong.

In the top 16 at Worlds 2015, there were five Corran lists. Out of those, one used Shield Upgrade and the two had no modification. Considering IA is 4 points cheaper than Shield Upgrade for the same effect and is 0 points, all three of those lists would have been much stronger if Integrated Astromech were available to Corran.

Corran is messing up so much in trying to fix these ships.

Break this "Fix":

Ewing only System

Counterpart Systems

Astromechs named R7 cost 2 less.

When you equip a droid named R7,

Equip a nonunique droid of your choice,

paying as normal. When you spend a

TL, you may take a free TL action.

Ready? Go!

The hardest part is to find ways to make them useful without making Corran or Poe godly.

That is easy ,dont make it an ewing title. An astro, modification is not something Corran or Poe can just swap out. a EPT would be interesting as CH needs PTL but Poe could use anything. But Poe is just good, not to good.

This again. Alright, TL:DR-ing my previous suggestion:

Rogue Squadron

Title

X-Wing Only

Cost:0

You may not equip this card to a T-70 X-Wing. At the start of combat phase, assign 1 evade token if there is another friendly ship with the "Rogue Squadron" upgrade card at range 1-2.

I don't think you would need to exclude the T-70 with that, Comm Relay would work well with it too. Making more sales for FFG.

I don't think you would need to exclude the T-70 with that, Comm Relay would work well with it too. Making more sales for FFG.

Agreed. but people might shout T70XWING OP BAN PLS

If say we allow this on a T-70.. 4 blue sq novices with IA+Title+your choice of 1 pt droid will eat B-wings for lunch.

Then we just fix the B-wing Hahaha, FFG will be laughing all the way to the bank.

But you could make it a limited card, only 3 played in a game, or make it cost 1 point.

Then we just fix the B-wing Hahaha, FFG will be laughing all the way to the bank.

My wallet would like to have a word with you, sir.

In all seriousness though, my initial reasoning not to include T-70 is simply because it doesn't fit in thematically.

Plus I just want to see lots of T65s on the competitive scene again. So many good pilots wasted.

I agree, I just want to fly Luke and Wedge competitively in the same list. I'll pay anything lol.

Maybe put a title card in the torpedo slot

TITLE: Upgraded T-65 (X-Wing Only)

A ship cannot have boost in action bar before equipping this title. Any equipped modification costs -4 points. Minimum of 0.

This gives the X-wing any modification they want for free, similar to TIE Advance fix. That way you can add a boost, or shield, or hull, etc. to fit an xwing into your squad. An X-Wing with Engine upgrade is NOT a T-70 because they still cannot talon roll, plus they lose the torpedo slot. I think justifiable, Wedge 29pts vs Poe 31pts.

The hardest part is to find ways to make them useful without making Corran or Poe godly.

That didn't block FFG about Vessery, so you better wait for über-Wedge

For Corran, maybe we could hope for a bonus usable only "if you don't have a Weapons Disable token", or, if usable for an attack "once per round".

Maybe put a title card in the torpedo slot

TITLE: Upgraded T-65 (X-Wing Only)

A ship cannot have boost in action bar before equipping this title. Any equipped modification costs -4 points. Minimum of 0.

This gives the X-wing any modification they want for free, similar to TIE Advance fix. That way you can add a boost, or shield, or hull, etc. to fit an xwing into your squad. An X-Wing with Engine upgrade is NOT a T-70 because they still cannot talon roll, plus they lose the torpedo slot. I think justifiable, Wedge 29pts vs Poe 31pts.

Nooooooo !

I think the X-wing should make use of this torpedo slot, since it is its role in the original movie.

Maybe a discount on torpedo, or even only a card like this :

TITLE - Trench Runner

If you have Guidance Chip equipped, you can take a second 0pt modification.

So we have an efficient torpedo launcher with the chip, without losing the HP of integrated astro (and open to another later 0pt modification combo).

I'm not actually opposed to a Chardaan refit-type torpedo upgrade that is restricted to Rebel-only ships, and possibly also restricted further to only the X-wing and E-wing. Simple point reductions aren't bad, and Corran isn't going to get all that much more godly by being 2 points cheaper, but it might encourage the use of some of the neglected X-wing aces.

A Rebel-only astromech that added the barrel roll or evade action would be pretty good; E-wing would not benefit, but the X-wing certainly would. As a partial deterrent to its use on Y-wings, it could work similar to Daredevil if the ship, say, has less then 2 agility. Either causing potential damage or automatic stress for lumbering ships seems fair.

A title or two seems likely in any Rebel Veterans pack. Would X-wings be too crazy with a Systems slot? Perhaps they could do almost the same thing that was done with the Advanced, and give the X-wing a title that gives a discounted System, combined with some sort of new X-wing only system. Maybe the E-wing could get a System that would allow it to turn it's banks into S-loops?

I agree, I just want to fly Luke and Wedge competitively in the same list. I'll pay anything lol.

sorry, mate, only one BB-8 per list :C

There was already a huge post on this awhile back. You can view it here.

I gave my ideas in that, and in this older thread here regarding a T-65 buff.

My response will always be the same. I think we should be using T-65 Model Title Cards to give them certain tactical bonuses. You will see what I mean when you read the posts