It has a bigger passenger/cargo area and smaller guns than the Lambda...right? Sabine describes it as has hardly any shields or weapons on the show so I'm not sure what it will bring to the game.

(I bet we see the Upsilon long before the Sentinel.)

John rainbow, are they not more like city patrol cars or non space vehicles like the Snowspeeder?

It would bring completion, we would have all the trilogy ships then,right?

More crew, space troopers, jump troopers, turret.

We'd be missing the Bespin 2 pilot weird bubble craft thingumys.

That only works in atmosphere, like the Snowspeeder, so we probably won't see it unless there's some odd in-atmosphere expansion.

To be fair, if we're talking snowspeeders and cloud cars then I think the Sentinel would work quite well as in a ground assault version of the game. After all, that's what it was intended for - landing/boarding operations.

I never get why people harp on about "Gunboat, Gunboat, Gunboat!" it looks nothing like any of the fighters in the Imperial Navy. Let's see, TIE Fighter, TIE Advance, TIE Interceptor, TIE Bomber, TIE Phantom, TIE Defender, TIE Punisher, Assault Gunboat......one of these things are not like the other. Irrespective of the nostalgia train people seem to be on with that fighter, I think it's a load of tosh and makes no sense in the greater lore about the Empire. Why have all these TIE craft and then have one craft that isn't a TIE that already has TIE class ships that fill its role ala the TIE Bomber, Punisher, and/or Defender.

"Gunboat, Gunboat, Gunboat!"-here, let me fix that for you:

GUNBOAT GUNBOAT GUNBOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"It looks nothing like any of the fighters in the Imperial Navy"-exactly. It's not just another TIE, it's different, and when released it was unique.

Lore wise the GUNBOAT was being designed around they time the Bomber and Interceptor were coming online and the Advanced x1 was being upgraded to the Avenger production model. Defenders basically took the weaponry of the GUNBOAT, added moar GUNS and made it super fast with insanely strong shields. Cygnus couldn't let Sienar upstage them so MISSILE BOAT KING GOD EMPEROR OF STARFIGHTERS was born.

The GUNBOAT filled a role that the empire had overlooked, an ion capable fighter that could take some hits and fire back. It ended up being the Imperial analogue of the Y-wing, hardy, multitasking, a bit slow. With the revelation of the BTL-B having almost certainly been an early Imperial ship, it would seem that the Empire fell in love with cheap TIEs and forgot that a versatile ship like the GUNBOAT was needed for some missions. Stormtrooper Transports just weren't cutting it for those missions.

The TIE Phantom, to me, looks like some Scum version of a TIE, an Ugly that fits the cockpit of a Correllian freighter with the chopped up wings of an interceptor on a blocky Lego hull that looks NOTHING like any other TIE design. Why isn't this thing being hated on for being hideous? The beauty that is he Alpha-class xg-1 Assault Gunboat deserves to be praised and immortalized in plastic as many times as possible. Current total of official GUNBOAT toys, models, ect.: ZERO. And that is a crime.

Pretty much the same thing the Avenger and the gunboat (after they release the missile boat)...nothing a title can't add as we've seen from the new bomber.

But we've also seen the TAP and the Advanced and the Tie and the FO so FFG might give us more "too similar" ships.

Rather than the Sentinel on a large base, I'd rather see the First Order Transporter from the new movie on a small base. It can carry 20 troopers, has a turret on the top. The ship is shorter than a y-wing, but could support 2, maybe 3 crew. A true support ship.

Give it multiple crew slots, Primary Weapon Turret Value of 1, decent hull with one shield, poor turning, but fast speed forward.

You're joking right? We don't need an unarmed troop transport for a dogfighting game. It's not even a support craft, it's only use is to move troopers from point A to point B, where point A and point B are any space or land based location.

Rather than the Sentinel on a large base, I'd rather see the First Order Transporter from the new movie on a small base. It can carry 20 troopers, has a turret on the top. The ship is shorter than a y-wing, but could support 2, maybe 3 crew. A true support ship.

Give it multiple crew slots, Primary Weapon Turret Value of 1, decent hull with one shield, poor turning, but fast speed forward.

You're joking right? We don't need an unarmed troop transport for a dogfighting game. It's not even a support craft, it's only use is to move troopers from point A to point B, where point A and point B are any space or land based location.

All the HWK does is move Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors from point A to point B.

All the GR-75 does is move Rebels from Point A to point B.

I was gonna say GR75...

And we totally do, Even if a ship does nothing but sit there and look ugly, it's an instant objective.

If it can do cool support stuff, SO MUCH THE BETTER.

Rather than the Sentinel on a large base, I'd rather see the First Order Transporter from the new movie on a small base. It can carry 20 troopers, has a turret on the top. The ship is shorter than a y-wing, but could support 2, maybe 3 crew. A true support ship.

Give it multiple crew slots, Primary Weapon Turret Value of 1, decent hull with one shield, poor turning, but fast speed forward.

You're joking right? We don't need an unarmed troop transport for a dogfighting game. It's not even a support craft, it's only use is to move troopers from point A to point B, where point A and point B are any space or land based location.

All the HWK does is move Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors from point A to point B.

All the GR-75 does is move Rebels from Point A to point B.

So? The HWK, as poorly represented in the game as it is, is at least armed. The GR-75 is a large craft that while not armed, is equipped with various support equipment that can aid in a space engagement.

The new troop transport is not armed nor is it equipped for support.

The Sentinel could be the first Epic Only Large based ship providing Imperials cheaper access to the jam and coordinate actions, along with other silly epic-only upgrades like crew and cargo (I'm not suggesting hardpoints of course).

I think it could be pretty neat. However, I'm extremely biased as I'm a Cygnus fanboy and just want more beautiful goodness officially molded in plastic so I can have it.

For me it would need to add something extra to the game. A bigger shuttle with/without turret doesn't really cut it for me.

Also it looks like a pregnant regular shuttle. If a palp-mobile and a doomshuttle love each other very much...

The Glorious intergalactic white rhino...

The GR75 has support abilities because FFG were like well... it's gotta do something.

No different than for the fantastic stellar ivory humpback.

The Glorious intergalactic white rhino...

The GR75 has support abilities because FFG were like well... it's gotta do something.

No different than for the fantastic stellar ivory humpback.

The GR-75 must have some support abilities because Akbar brought them to the assault on the second Death Star at Endor. While we don't see them do anything in the film, they would not have followed the fleet into battle if they did not offer some sort of support. FFG may have made up the specifics, but the movies suggest that they can do something and LFL gave the thumbs up to what they decided on. We already know what the new FO transport can do. It can move troopers from space to planet, and it paints a huge target on the idiot piloting it. It is incapable of engaging an enemy starfighter, and it is not equipped to provide any kind of support in a dogfight. There are plenty of neat ships the Empire could use, we don't need this stupid piece of junk.

The Sentinel Shuttle from Rebels would be okayish, but is it really different enough from the Lambda to warrant it's own inclusion while there are so many better candidates waiting in line?

This stupid piece of junk that is perhaps the only reasonably sized OT ship/that is not in the game.

The GR75s if i recall was explained to be used for ramship purposes.

With good game design there is no reason not to have the Sentinel in game.

The Glorious intergalactic white rhino...

The GR75 has support abilities because FFG were like well... it's gotta do something.

No different than for the fantastic stellar ivory humpback.

The GR-75 must have some support abilities because Akbar brought them to the assault on the second Death Star at Endor. While we don't see them do anything in the film, they would not have followed the fleet into battle if they did not offer some sort of support. FFG may have made up the specifics, but the movies suggest that they can do something and LFL gave the thumbs up to what they decided on. We already know what the new transport can do. It can move troopers from space to planet, and it paints a huge target on the idiot piloting it. It is incapable of engaging an enemy starfighter, and it is not equipped to provide any kind of support in a dogfight.

There are plenty of neat ships the Empire could use, we don't need this stupid piece of junk.

All this could be said about the Lambda, the only difference is the Lambda carries the Emperor/Dignitaires, and the Sentinal Carries troops/Officers. besides that, they are pretty much the same. If the Lambda can be in the game, why not the Sentinal?

The Gunboat was created FOR X-WING, BEFORE TIE FIGHTER WAS A GLINT IN THE CODERS EYE!

Yes, but it was the TIE Fighter developer's decision to make you fly them, instead of creating another new TIE to serve the purpose.

I prefer how the gunboats operate earlier in the game. When you're all "I'm in a TIE Fighter, and I need this transport disabled. Time to radio in the Gunboats." rather than when you have to fly them yourself.

The Glorious intergalactic white rhino...

The GR75 has support abilities because FFG were like well... it's gotta do something.

No different than for the fantastic stellar ivory humpback.

The GR-75 must have some support abilities because Akbar brought them to the assault on the second Death Star at Endor. While we don't see them do anything in the film, they would not have followed the fleet into battle if they did not offer some sort of support. FFG may have made up the specifics, but the movies suggest that they can do something and LFL gave the thumbs up to what they decided on. We already know what the new transport can do. It can move troopers from space to planet, and it paints a huge target on the idiot piloting it. It is incapable of engaging an enemy starfighter, and it is not equipped to provide any kind of support in a dogfight.

There are plenty of neat ships the Empire could use, we don't need this stupid piece of junk.

All this could be said about the Lambda, the only difference is the Lambda carries the Emperor/Dignitaires, and the Sentinal Carries troops/Officers. besides that, they are pretty much the same. If the Lambda can be in the game, why not the Sentinal?

I was talking about the new FO transport, not the Sentinal. The problem with the Sentinal is the amount of overlap with the Lambda. How do you differentiate the two from each other? Especially with the almost certain future inclusion of the Upsilon shuttle.

First, it'd offer the Imperials their first turret option. That'd be huge in and of itself. It could well even hold two turret slots, perhaps with a crew or system or something that lets you fire both in one round.

Second, it'd give the Imperials a new option for crew carrying, perhaps with an extra slot or two over the current options, backed by hefty shields.

What happened to the Decimator?

First, it only has 3 crew. Second, its turret is a primary weapon, not a turret upgrade slot.

A Sentinel could potentially allow for 4 crew and 2 turret upgrades.

I never get why people harp on about "Gunboat, Gunboat, Gunboat!" it looks nothing like any of the fighters in the Imperial Navy.

Except the Lambda Shuttle, which was the same in-universe producer of the gunboat, while all the TIEs were from the same manufacturer. The gunboat was never supposed to be a fighter, and it predates(1993) the inclusion of the Phantom (1995)/Defender(1994)/Punisher(2001) in the universe, so using those as retroactive examples of the Gunboat not fitting in is pointless.

There. That settles your problems with a perceived lack of shared design aesthetics.

Welcome aboard the Gunboat hype train.

I never get why people harp on about "Gunboat, Gunboat, Gunboat!" it looks nothing like any of the fighters in the Imperial Navy. Let's see, TIE Fighter, TIE Advance, TIE Interceptor, TIE Bomber, TIE Phantom, TIE Defender, TIE Punisher, Assault Gunboat......one of these things are not like the other. Irrespective of the nostalgia train people seem to be on with that fighter, I think it's a load of tosh and makes no sense in the greater lore about the Empire. Why have all these TIE craft and then have one craft that isn't a TIE that already has TIE class ships that fill its role ala the TIE Bomber, Punisher, and/or Defender.

Umm...maybe the Emperor didn't read the Cygnus contract enough to notice they were to make two transports and one or two starfighters.

Now in regards to the Sentinel, I could easily seeing it be maybe similar to the Lambda in the same way the Punisher is similar to the Bomber, so there is a fair bit they could play with. And while the new version of the ship may not be the same as its EU counterpart the EU version was more heavily shielded, armored and carried more weapons than their smaller Lambda cousin.

But for the Upsilon shuttle from episode 7 I have to wonder how they will make it all that more different than the lambda. Plus we all know that big ship would be a pain and a half to store and carry with its large wings. And unlike the Lambda or the Sentinel its wings don't fold up, the top half magically slides down onto the lower half.

A Sentinel could potentially allow for 4 crew and 2 turret upgrades.

I can't imagine WANTING 2 turret upgrades, since you can't fire them both. Unless it also comes with a new upgrade that lets you do that.

A Sentinel could potentially allow for 4 crew and 2 turret upgrades.

I can't imagine WANTING 2 turret upgrades, since you can't fire them both. Unless it also comes with a new upgrade that lets you do that.

If it had 4 crew, it'd be easy to fit one in that lets you fire two secondary weapons...

For that matter, if it has a system slot like many people have been suggesting, it could be a system upgrade.

I never get why people harp on about "Gunboat, Gunboat, Gunboat!" it looks nothing like any of the fighters in the Imperial Navy.

Except the Lambda Shuttle, which was the same in-universe producer of the gunboat, while all the TIEs were from the same manufacturer. The gunboat was never supposed to be a fighter, and it predates(1993) the inclusion of the Phantom (1995)/Defender(1994)/Punisher(2001) in the universe, so using those as retroactive examples of the Gunboat not fitting in is pointless.

There. That settles your problems with a perceived lack of shared design aesthetics.

Welcome aboard the Gunboat hype train.

You forgot TIE Avenger/Advanced. (1994).

I suspect the space dong with solar panels (Scimitar Assault Bomber) was even earlier. (Dark Force Rising, 1992).

Also as a point of interest, Z-95 headhunter, Authority IRD and Maurauder Corvette were 1979 (Han Solo at Stars End).

For the record, I would have preferred to see the Scimitar over the Punisher. They do however seem to share the same portfolio.

Another point of interest: The sentinel's first appearance was the special edition of ANH, in 1997. Making it a newer craft technically than the Defender, Gunboat etc etc etc.

If the Sentinal were to be put in, the problem is that it's got to compete with either the Lambda or the Decimator.

It did, historically, have retractable turrets, so giving it a pair of turret slots could work, especially if it had something akin to Gunner or IG-88B, but working for turrets. If it's done by a crew card, that would need to be balanced carefully, as it would also apply to the HWK-260, K-wing and Attack Shuttle (not that that's inherently a bad thing).