Rex and Ruthlessness (and /D title)

By NakedDex, in X-Wing Rules Questions

In theory, Rex with the above combo can put damage on up to 4 ships, as the cannon and primary targets don't necessarily have to be the same ship. Even if they were, there may be two ships within range 1 of that targeted ship.

With that in mind:

A) If the cannon (Ion, for example) hits one target, primary hits a second, Ruthlessness kicks in for each attack, dealing damage to two targets, for a total of four damaged ships; how many of those ships are eligible to be hit by his pilot ability? Just the target, or the target and the spillover target from Ruthlessness (since it's damage coming from the same attack, as Ruthlessness isn't an attack by itself).

B) Since the cannon and primary attacks are separate, if both attacks are on the same ship, at what point do you choose to use the ability? After the attack, or after the attacks are complete?

C) If ships dealt damage by Ruthlessness are treated as separate attacks, are they eligible to declare as the target of his ability?

D) If Rex has more than one Focus token (let's say there's a Fleet Officer nearby, dishing out tokens like candy), can he trigger his ability on two different targets in the same turn (different cannon and primary targets, for example).

I think I've made that sufficiently complicated... It is something I'm curious about though. Rex hitting 4 ships with one volley makes me chuckle enough to want to try it. Being able to turn over a significant number of cards more than usual, though, has be wondering how the timings all work and how those attacks are defined.

A.. Only the ships you have attacked are affected by Rex's pilot ability - as you have already noted, ruthlessness is not an attack

B. Each attack is a separate attack sequence - therefore ruthlessness will trigger at the end of each attack

C. Ships dealt damage by ruthlessness are not treated as having been attacked - so Rex's ability won't trigger on them - only the target of the attack.

D. Yes - there is no once per round (or similar) restriction to Rex's ability

Ok, that largely confirms what I thought. The grey area in my head was whether Ruthlessness counted as a separate attack or not.

So in the perfect storm situation, wherein all dice behave impossibly in my favour, I could put out 4 face up cards to one ship, 1 face up to another, and a face down to each of two other ships. Yeah, that's definitely something to aim for.

Nope, the perfect situation is

sequencing

Attack 1: ion\flechett

Attack hits

Discard all dice results

Target suffers 1 damage

Ruthlessness triggers

Side target suffers 1 damage

title triggers

Attack 2: primary

4 dice, all hits (for maximum FUN) (might be 5 if Opportunist is present or maybe even if you have some other way to increace dice coult like Expose)

target evades 0

target suffers 4 damage

no shields, everything is facedown cards

you spend your focus, flipping them faceup

target flips 4 damage cards faceup

*possible crit results*

Ruthlessness triggers

Side target suffers 1 damage

I think there's an issue with all "capped damage" cannons

can't say for sure though, but I think their wording is weird in a way: the targets suffers that 1 damage, but neither Rexlers nor Xizors abilities will work on their 1 damage

Look at tie shuttles as a platform for fleet officer giving Rexler two focus to play with.

Look at tie shuttles as a platform for fleet officer giving Rexler two focus to play with.

Jonus too. I still can't manage to make that into a decent squad though. Brath is just so expensive.

And a side note, brath can 'reflip' crits received. For example, if a natural minor explosion is dealt, it is resolved (and flipped face down) before rexler kicks in. He then can re-activate that crit.

Nope, the perfect situation is

sequencing

Attack 1: ion\flechett

Attack hits

Discard all dice results

Target suffers 1 damage

Ruthlessness triggers

Side target suffers 1 damage

title triggers

Attack 2: primary

4 dice, all hits (for maximum FUN) (might be 5 if Opportunist is present or maybe even if you have some other way to increace dice coult like Expose)

target evades 0

target suffers 4 damage

no shields, everything is facedown cards

you spend your focus, flipping them faceup

target flips 4 damage cards faceup

*possible crit results*

Ruthlessness triggers

Side target suffers 1 damage

I think there's an issue with all "capped damage" cannons

can't say for sure though, but I think their wording is weird in a way: the targets suffers that 1 damage, but neither Rexlers nor Xizors abilities will work on their 1 damage

You can't have Opportunist or Expose because Ruthlessness is your EPT

^^ Good spotting. I was about to mention that one too. :)

Look at tie shuttles as a platform for fleet officer giving Rexler two focus to play with.

Cool Hand Bren with Fleet Officer for maximum silliness. Hand out two focus tokens, take a stress; Cool Hand triggers, gain a focus. Focus for everyone.

Edited by NakedDex

And a side note, brath can 'reflip' crits received. For example, if a natural minor explosion is dealt, it is resolved (and flipped face down) before rexler kicks in. He then can re-activate that crit.

Yeah I've a habit of doing this with Colzet. It always seems almost unfair, but is perfect schadenfreude. Especially when it's the "receive one stress, then flip down" on Poe: take stress, end phase - flip it back up and take yet more stress. Repeat ad nauseum. Giggle uncontrollably.