Armada is probably not as succesful as FFG calculated it would be. I can't imagine them being so incredibly slow with releases if the SW:Armada models would sell like crazy.

The lack of news is a little baffling. I get that they want to avoid the mistakes of wave 2, but this is getting a little ridiculous. We'll be waiting six months after the announcement for the release, so some news would be welcome. I just hate to see such a good game get so little attention from FFG. We're over two months removed from news of any kind. A tactics article just to show us there's still a pulse would be awesome.

Armada is probably not as succesful as FFG calculated it would be. I can't imagine them being so incredibly slow with releases if the SW:Armada models would sell like crazy.

What, my plastic crack? The local flgs that host games can't keep product on the shelves, even with CSI's 40-50% markdowns online. I only have 1 mc80, but everything else I have between 2-6. That isn't including the 3D printed ships I've added to my collection. I have at least 3 local stores hosting weekly events, plus 2 others that offer open table space and stock the game. Is it at X-wing's level... No, but two waves in, neither was X-wing. Armada is doing fine. If by some twist of fate FFG drops it tomorrow, we still have a great game that will have fan expansions for the foreseeable future. Not that I believe for a second it will come to that.

The hits of wave two outweigh the misses 50 to 1. It was those few that were so frustrating.

Honestly, if I had to guess. I think this is a cost thing. Armada is expensive. I got like $800 wrapped up into it and think they are weighting for many to afford the stuff they want. It seems there are a lot of people who are into the game but just can't afford to keep up. X-wing has a much less expensive price point. I know a lot of people just won't get into the game because of the price. If they lose people to the feeling they can't keep up that could be a problem. Those of us who can afford it might need to be patient for those less fortunate. Plus, this will give them more time to really see the meta and respond with the right fixes instead of just knee jerk reactions. As much as I am craving some ships in the 85-100 point base area, I think they want to wait and see how the store and big regional games are going. The models can be ready and it would be easy to just focus on printing the cards and ship templates to make the right adjustments. X-wing has taught them that the Starviper etc thing will start pissing people off when the ships cost twice as much. Of course, this is just a gut feeling.

Then when ffg post a FB page for other game jump on them demanding news and atleast a month post about armada

Oh no, ANOTHER thread about Wave 3's absence! How awfully repetitive!

Oh, wait, hang on, it costs me nothing to scroll past / ignore if I want to because I have this weird Sherlock Holmes-type thing going on where I can See and Read things with little real effort. Guess I'll just keep living my life in peace, rather than having it ruined because somebody started a conversation on the internet that I'd already seen before.

ANYWAY, on the subject of no news, never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. Whilst it's easy to assume that they're ramping down the game, are disappointed with sales, etc., it seems much more likely that, after the issues they had with Wave 2, they're probably waiting until Wave 3 is more-or-less "On The Boat" before announcing it, or at least "At The Dock".

That means that there may be all sorts of difficulties and delays to the release which are both within and out of FFG's hands.

Further, Wave 2 was out pretty much right over Thanksgiving and Christmas, as I recall - that could easily put a delay on future announcements by quite a bit, if key staff have taken time off over that period. It also seems likely that a lot of the same people may be involved in Rebellion, which is obviously just finishing a hefty announcement cycle.

During the Worlds final game, one of the developers mentioned Wave 4 briefly, presumably right before his manager threatened to physically choke him with his NDA, so it's likely we've got at least another couple of waves to go.

My willpower is tested daily without news from FFG. I fully expect the Liberty style Cruiser, and I would prefer an official one from FFG. However, the one DA put together is just so beautiful. I have to daily resist buying it.

I'm wondering if it's partly the limited amount of cap ships they could use amongst other things. (Everybody thinking ships above 2k in length need to lose that concept for now).

There definitely more fighter sized ships in the universe. And some repitition of roles.

But other than that I suspect costs (manufacturing and end user) and possible ties to Rebels.

Optimist - they are fine tuning a wonderful wave three that continues to add balance to the Force.

Pessimist - they have expanded too fast and are having trouble keeping up.

I'm currently optimistic.

My willpower is tested daily without news from FFG. I fully expect the Liberty style Cruiser, and I would prefer an official one from FFG. However, the one DA put together is just so beautiful. I have to daily resist buying it.

What is DA?

Please don't add a scum faction....please don't add a scum faction......

Tyber Zahn....sure why not.

Wow...CSI's prices are nearly criminal.

Wish shapeways was this cheap

My willpower is tested daily without news from FFG. I fully expect the Liberty style Cruiser, and I would prefer an official one from FFG. However, the one DA put together is just so beautiful. I have to daily resist buying it.

What is DA?

DA is a guy who heads an independent Aramada expansion project. The website is here:

http://armadashipyards.com

You'll usually see the "DA shipyards" thread pop to the top of the forums every so often.

My willpower is tested daily without news from FFG. I fully expect the Liberty style Cruiser, and I would prefer an official one from FFG. However, the one DA put together is just so beautiful. I have to daily resist buying it.

What is DA?

DA is a guy who heads an independent Aramada expansion project. The website is here:

http://armadashipyards.com

You'll usually see the "DA shipyards" thread pop to the top of the forums every so often.

I'm really looking forward to his finished Imperial Venator....

I am actually glad for the slow pace. Some news would of course be nice, but I will take these droughts of information so long as it means this game remains balanced. I really don't want this game to have some crazy power creep where some things are mandatory to win.

Last year, we saw some wave 2 spoilers at the New York toy fair. The 2016 fair is in a few weeks. I bet we see something then.

Unless Wave 3 contains the Assault Frigate mk1, I can honestly wait until it's actually ready to be shipped before hearing anything about it. The last thing I would care to see, is a repeat of the Wave 2 news blast, followed by a humongous dragging wait for months on end with dates pushed back further and further before the eventual release. If FFG is actually getting their little toy ships in a row this time, to insure there isn't another epic hurry up and wait for Wave 3, then I am absolutely fine waiting as long as it takes before any news is leaked.

Unless Wave 3 contains the Assault Frigate mk1, I can honestly wait until it's actually ready to be shipped before hearing anything about it. The last thing I would care to see, is a repeat of the Wave 2 news blast, followed by a humongous dragging wait for months on end with dates pushed back further and further before the eventual release. If FFG is actually getting their little toy ships in a row this time, to insure there isn't another epic hurry up and wait for Wave 3, then I am absolutely fine waiting as long as it takes before any news is leaked.

Yeah i'm with you there. I desperately WANT news, but at the same time, I KNOW that if there are all these news and previews and then a painful dragging 6 month wait before we actually get to play with the announced goodies I might want to physically hurt somebody.

Personally, if they wait to make sure there are no unforseen manufacturing or supply chain issues before they make a peep about wave 3 I will nor be too pissed. Any time I get ants in my pants about wave 3 I paint some more of my ships

It would be nice just to have a 'plans for wave 3' news piece. I don't need spoilers or pics of the new ship models. I'd just like to have some stuff to look forward to that's comming out for my favorite wargame at the moment. I'm sure it's not too much to ask. Especialy on the back of all of the X-Wing, Imperial Assault and Star Wars: Rebellion news that's been released.

Armada is a much slower, more expensive and more difficult game to get to the table for your average gaming schmuck. Wave II is barely an infant at this point, from a competitive stand-point a proper meta hasn't even emerged yet. I'm all for future announcements but right now its way too early to release another wave. There is soooo much more gaming that needs to happen with what we have right now.

Armada is a much slower, more expensive and more difficult game to get to the table for your average gaming schmuck. Wave II is barely an infant at this point, from a competitive stand-point a proper meta hasn't even emerged yet. I'm all for future announcements but right now its way too early to release another wave. There is soooo much more gaming that needs to happen with what we have right now.

Here's the thing, though. Assuming we have the usual 6 months from announcement to release, we'll have a minimum 8 months with no new content releases at this point. I'm hoping FFG is holding back the announcement so that we don't have such a long wait, but it's getting hard not to feel like a red headed stepchild to X-Wing and Imperial Assault.

Here's the thing, though. Assuming we have the usual 6 months from announcement to release, we'll have a minimum 8 months with no new content releases at this point. I'm hoping FFG is holding back the announcement so that we don't have such a long wait, but it's getting hard not to feel like a red headed stepchild to X-Wing and Imperial Assault.

Here's the thing though, you have no cause to make that assumption, no matter how many times you repeat it.

Secondly, consider the fact that Wave 3 will be released when it is ready. What if won't be ready for more than 6 months from right now? You want an announcement so that it will release in 6 months, but what if they announce it prematurely, like they did with Wave 2? Is that a better alternative?

Armada is a pretty different game from IA, and X Wing in terms of development, production, and overall marketability/consumer base. More goes into Armada, than the other two because it's a more intensive game. Realistically it should see slower releases.

The problem with Armada releases in general is that they are in direct competition with X-Wing. I have noticed with myself and with my local gaming groups that there is a real split. People are either buying Armada or X-Wing and not both. Many are so invested in X-Wing they reject Armada not because its not a good game or they don't have interest but because they simply can't afford to collect both games. The same is true for me, since the release of Armada I haven't bought a single X-Wing Miniature, at this point I'm almost two full waves behind and that's entirely because Its just too expensive to justify trying to collect both.

So it doesn't at all surprise me that there is no Armada announcement and I would expect there will be none until after the next X-Wing release is well past its novelty stage. Then when Armada is announced you will see a lull in X-Wing and I suspect this will be the new process. They would be shooting themselves in the foot otherwise because if they have a wave of Armada and X-Wing out at the same time, I like many people are going to go for one or the other.

The problem with Armada releases in general is that they are in direct competition with X-Wing.

I used to work for a sh*tty vacuum cleaner manufacturer. The one that's smaller than Dyson but bigger than Numatic. Anyway, talk about cannibalising your own sales! We'd release about twelve different models, all within £20 of each other in terms of price and with no distinguishing features, and then we'd wonder why we made no money...

The problem with Armada releases in general is that they are in direct competition with X-Wing.

I used to work for a sh*tty vacuum cleaner manufacturer. The one that's smaller than Dyson but bigger than Numatic. Anyway, talk about cannibalising your own sales! We'd release about twelve different models, all within £20 of each other in terms of price and with no distinguishing features, and then we'd wonder why we made no money...

Sounds a lot like Nokia/Microsoft Lumia phones.

I'm content with what we have but if we don't have wave three on shelves by April or May, you can probably count me out. There should be two waves released per year.