Just was thinking earlier and I realized that I am sure at some point someone is going to look at shooting a tractor beam at Lorrir's interceptor. He's the interceptor who:

"When performing a barrel roll action, you may receive 1 stress token to use the [bank Left 1] or [bank Right 1] template instead of the [straight 1] to roll."

And of course the tractor beam allows the opponent to forcefully barrel roll the other ship. However even though Lorrir allows you to bypass the normal barrel roll rules and allows you to use the bank template, I do not think that the tractor beam can be used to forcefully activate his ability and give him stress.

The end of the tractor beam reference card states that:

"This is not an action or a maneuver, and can cause the ship to overlap obstacles (but not other ships)."

So judging by that, the barrel roll activated by the tractor beam is not an action, and Lorrir's ability specifically states when performing a barrel roll action, rather than simply barrel rolling. So no curved forced stressful barrel rolls.

That sound like the correct logic here?

That sound like the correct logic here?

Yes that sounds right to me. It's not an action so his ability doesn't kick in.

You're right, but you're working too hard. There are at least three reasons I can think of that Lorrir's effect can't be activated by a tractor beam token, but by far the most straightforward is that his ability says "...you may receive..."

Your opponent can't ever force you to activate it.

You're right, but you're working too hard. There are at least three reasons I can think of that Lorrir's effect can't be activated by a tractor beam token, but by far the most straightforward is that his ability says "...you may receive..."

Your opponent can't ever force you to activate it.

I think the question would be more whether you could CHOOSE to activate it if it would be beneficial for you to do so, and if so, who would choose which way the token was placed...

the real question is who CHOOSES to run Lorir? its more of a punishment than a forced activation of his ability.

I think the question would be more whether you could CHOOSE to activate it

I don't think so, the card says barrel roll action and this isn't a barrel roll action, it's just a barrel roll.

I think the question would be more whether you could CHOOSE to activate it

I don't think so, the card says barrel roll action and this isn't a barrel roll action, it's just a barrel roll.

Agree. And, you could get semantic and say the 'you' isn't lorrir's owner, but the opponent, so 'you' cant take advantage of Lorrir'vs ability either way.

The tractor beam card also calls out the specific template to be used instead of just using a more generic "Do a barrel-roll!".

That would also keep other ships with similar abilities from using their alternate templates (Zeta Ace).

I think the question would be more whether you could CHOOSE to activate it

I don't think so, the card says barrel roll action and this isn't a barrel roll action, it's just a barrel roll.

Agree. And, you could get semantic and say the 'you' isn't lorrir's owner, but the opponent, so 'you' cant take advantage of Lorrir'vs ability either way.

Right on both counts, I think. It's not a barrel roll action, and the "you" referred to in the card text is explicitly the card's owner--which, in this case, is not the person performing the barrel roll.

"You" on ship cards and upgrades refers to the ship that the ability is on or the upgrade is equipped to.

The Tractor Token rules card explicitly states it is not an action or a maneuver, so Lorrir, if anyone actually was planning on using him over a generic Royal Guard, wouldn't have to worry about it anymore than other Interceptors do.