Yeah and it's ugly and unimaginative ooooh look they removed a few panels.

Helps with that peripheral vision issue. Maybe this ship is the interceptor prototype.

Given the relativistic speeds involved in space combat your eyes are the last thing you should rely on.

That's why ships have sensors.

This has nothing to do with Star Wars. The speeds they're combat functions at are far too low, and there has never been so much as a nod to time dilation in Star Wars. The have been references to Ties limiting visibility however. Work in their universe not ours.

SW would be VERY different if the ships and combat were portrayed as realistically as possible, probably tiny spherical droid/drone fighters trying to hit vulnerable spots on gigantic automated capital ships with no windows and no actual crew (not even robots), as well as kinetic kill strategies and such. No rogue squadron or BRIANS jousting with their super cool spaceships. I think I like the fantasy better.

One theory i've seen brought up which doesn't seem unreasonable is the Temple Guard looking guys might be using them.

and really ugly green

The whole scene has a greenish/yellow tint to it, making everything in it discolored, I don't know why everyone is thinking that is an accurate depiction of the ship's color.

Maybe it's just me but I HATE seeing all of these variations on a common piece where I believe the true intent behind it is just to SELL MORE TOYS. Why use the classic TIE Fighter for things when if you make a slight change you can get everyone who ever bought an old model to buy new ones for this fighter which happens to be almost the exact same thing.

Basically the limitations of the various writer's lack understanding of real world physics, real world combat, real world space ship design, real world realistic dialogue (thanks George), you get the picture.

SW would be VERY different if the ships and combat were portrayed as realistically as possible, probably tiny spherical droid/drone fighters trying to hit vulnerable spots on gigantic automated capital ships with no windows and no actual crew (not even robots), as well as kinetic kill strategies and such. No rogue squadron or BRIANS jousting with their super cool spaceships. I think I like the fantasy better.

I'm not sure if you've read the books set in the Starfire universe, but they sort of imagine a physics in which inertial dampeners and other kinds of technology make fighters make _sense_.

Babylon 5 also, come to think of it. The Earth Alliance uses a quasi-hard SF type of tech, but the more advanced races have increasingly weirder stuff.

I like to imagine that Star Wars is set in a universe with a Tech base advanced enough that it's all kinda weird to us.

Also: pew pew pew.

They're just TIE Taxis. You can go about your business. Move along.

Basically the limitations of the various writer's lack understanding of real world physics, real world combat, real world space ship design, real world realistic dialogue (thanks George), you get the picture.

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I think I like the fantasy better.

And that last is most probably the reason. Not any lack of understanding of physics but understanding the need for story.

They're just TIE Taxis. You can go about your business. Move along.

Oooh, I like it. That means we get Harry Canyon and Korben Dallas as named pilots.

Yeah and it's ugly and unimaginative ooooh look they removed a few panels.

Helps with that peripheral vision issue. Maybe this ship is the interceptor prototype.

double post, ignore.

I just don't get peoples criticism. "Oh it's just a TIE Fighter with a panel missing." let's apply that logic; a TIE Interceptor is a TIE Fighter that's had a panel removed and been sat on. If I see them announce a TIE Avenger, and I don't see someone say "It's just a TIE Advanced with some panels missing" I will be calling double standards.

I just don't get peoples criticism. "Oh it's just a TIE Fighter with a panel missing." let's apply that logic; a TIE Interceptor is a TIE Fighter that's had a panel removed and been sat on. If I see them announce a TIE Avenger, and I don't see someone say "It's just a TIE Advanced with some panels missing" I will be calling double standards.

I think, and I could be wrong, that the difference is, this is a new ship from the big scary world of new Star Wars, where things like the interceptor or the Avenger are things from the comfort of the past. Some star wars fans aren't exactly open to things produced after 1998.

You know it could be a tie/trainer. extra panels removed to reduce power output to safe levels/give extra visibility. Kinda makes sense.

It could be that for the trailer the artist got the wrong model and forgot to render it right.

Yeah, opinions are opinions, but I see a lot of people say something new is terrible when...really it's not different from anything and everything that came before it.

Someone earlier in this thread say it was an excuse to sell toys. So a TIE Bomber, Interceptor and all these other TIE varients were not an excuse to sell toys when they were first shown off, this comes along and breaks the camels back, I see.

However people usually invalidate my comments when I say that I liked the N1 Starfighters design.

as in the other thread:

it is the new Tie/B - as in Bananas.

if it's a new prototype, I want them to call it the Tie-advanced-prototype-prototype..-prototype.

the taxi idea is really nice. BUT! the ace pilot HAS TO BE Travis Bickle.

"once, per round, stare at your opponent. like mad. then, discard your opponent the old fashioned way. after that, get discarded from the shop yourself, the old fashioned way"

I've said this before and I'll say it again. The Imperial faction does not need yet another low Attack, low HP, high Agility, and nimble ship. It has been done to death. The only real game-changing ship they could get would be a TIE with a turret (either as a primary weapon or upgrade) that is cheap and spammable. I mean the TIE, TIE f/o, TIE Advanced, TIE Interceptor, and TIE Defender are all variations on the same basic ship concept. All are nimble with good dials and a good Agility. They only really vary on the number of shields and Attack dice with some upgrade variations.

Rebels do not have this problem. A X-Wing is not a Falcon, is not a B-Wing, is not an A-Wing, is not a HWK, etc...

In a way that is pretty fine, at least IMHO. It really insists on the industrial face of the Empire, and on the fact that its soldiers don't have any kind of individuality, while the variety of the Rebel fleet makes you understand they lack money and take ships that are available to them.

But I agree that a third (pretty certainly forth if/when the TIE/sf comes out) barely different looking model is a bit too much.

Those are the new Rebel H-Wings!

Plot twist: It is the incom corporation's TIE factory, where a worker has developed a new star fighter, based off of the Z-95 head hunter, and plans to give the designs to the rebellion.

Yeah and it's ugly and unimaginative ooooh look they removed a few panels.

Helps with that peripheral vision issue. Maybe this ship is the interceptor prototype.

This is space combat, you don't need peripheral vision at the ranges combat will be happening.

And even if your close enough to see the target you need light to see it

Yeah and it's ugly and unimaginative ooooh look they removed a few panels.

Helps with that peripheral vision issue. Maybe this ship is the interceptor prototype.

This is space combat, you don't need peripheral vision at the ranges combat will be happening.

And even if your close enough to see the target you need light to see it

Star Wars is not space combat, it is WW2 in space.

Plot twist: It is the incom corporation's TIE factory, where a worker has developed a new star fighter, based off of the Z-95 head hunter, and plans to give the designs to the rebellion.

While I doubt it has anything to do with this TIE variant, I do think the show is going to do something line this. Not feature the x-wing directly, but reference it in an on the side, kinda roundabout way.

Yeah, opinions are opinions, but I see a lot of people say something new is terrible when...really it's not different from anything and everything that came before it.

Someone earlier in this thread say it was an excuse to sell toys. So a TIE Bomber, Interceptor and all these other TIE varients were not an excuse to sell toys when they were first shown off, this comes along and breaks the camels back, I see.

However people usually invalidate my comments when I say that I liked the N1 Starfighters design.

It some ways the Interceptor and Bomber could be seen as excuses to sell more toys except that I think most of us can clearly recognize that they actually did add something to the concept. If you are looking at something that could carry a ton of ordnance the bomber sure looks like it makes more sense than the little TIE Fighter which barely looks larger than its cockpit. The Interceptor gave the TIE Fighter more firepower and I also believe it's panels are a significant improvement over the TIE Fighter we see in the first movie.

It's when I look at the "new" TIE Fighters that I'm left wondering "what are they thinking?" If you didn't tell me they were a newer model I'd assume the TIE/fo are just ships left over from ANH. I could buy the Inquisitor's ship as a prototype but if the ships at the head of this topic are some variation on the TIE Fighter I wonder what is wrong with them that they aren't what we see in ANH.

They're seriously probably just trainers or owned by those sentinels.

as in the other thread:

it is the new Tie/B - as in Bananas.

No. It just dawned on me....it's the TIE/PM....as in PacMan. After all, if you're chasing Ghosts, Phantoms and Spectres, why not use something that's an expert at doing it.