I've seen a lot of people mentioning that a palp mobile is a good way to let wampa do his thing. However, upon further inspection, the last sentence of the emperors text becomes very important. You can't modify a die after he has modified it.

And since wampa's ability has the same wording as accuracy corrector, which is definitely a die modification, wampa cannot use the emperor to fuel his ability.

Discuss.

Cancelling a die is not a kind of dice modification.

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And how is that, exactly?

The rules give an exhaustive list of what, exactly, is Modifying Dice.

I don't think Canceling dice is in that section.

Cancelling a die is not a kind of dice modification.

Bingo. This has come up in the recent "Omega Leader" discussions, where it's pointed out that cancelling dice is something OL doesn't have any say on.

So yes, "Wampa" absolutely, 100%, works with Big Poppa Palpatine.

And how is that, exactly?

Page 13 of the Rules Reference, "Modifying Dice" lists Add, Change, and Reroll as the entire list of things that are considered dice modifications.

Note this also keeps the Emperor from sneaking crits into Ion Cannon shots, etc.

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Fun fact of the day: You are wrong.

And how is that, exactly?

Page 13 of the Rules Reference, "Modifying Dice" list Add, Change, and Reroll as the entire list of things that are considered dice modifications.

Note this also keeps the Emperor from sneaking crits into Ion Cannon shots, etc.

Another bingo. Accuracy Corrector is a dice modification because after cancelling you then add two hits.

Everybody is missing the part where "resolving card abilities" is also a modification.

Fun fact of the day: You are wrong.

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Yep. You can cancel Palp's modification with Accuracy Corrector.

But someone target locked by Omega Leader cannot use AC to attack him. They can perform the "cancel dice" step, but cannot use the "add two hits" step because the latter is a modification.

Everybody is missing the part where "resolving card abilities" is also a modification.

No. The rest of us are reading it in context.

Everybody is missing the part where "resolving card abilities" is also a modification.

No, it's not. Card abilities that happen to Modify Dice are resolved during the appropriate Modify Dice steps, but that's not the same thing as saying that every card ability that happens during those steps (which Wampa's doesn't anyway) is a Dice Modification.

Sooooooo.

Well that was fun. Back to your regularly scheduled "turrets are lazy"

Everybody is missing the part where "resolving card abilities" is also a modification.

No one's missing it, it just doesn't apply.

Cancelling dice is NOT a modification.

Wampa rolls, comes up with two blanks. Palpatine turns a blank into a crit. Wampa cancels that crit, because removing a dice is not modifying that dice, it trigger his ability.

And it's really that simple: canceling dice =/= modification. Heck, if that were the case you could use the Emperor to make ion cannons crit+add their one damage.

If canceling was a modification, then Palp would turn any Imperial into Ten Numb. You wouldn't be able to cancel a crit he created with your defense dice.

Everybody is missing the part where "resolving card abilities" is also a modification.

And for a less flippant response than my other one:

The section you are looking at is the section describing the steps in the combat phase. It isn't defining what a modification is, it is giving you examples of the things that are able to modify dice. This is the section for "Modify Attack Dice" from pg. 5 of the rules reference guide. There is a similar list in the "Modify Defender Dice" step.

3. Modify Attack Dice: The defender can

resolve any card abilities that allow him to modify

the attack dice. Then the attacker can modify his

attack dice in one or more of the following ways

as many times as possible:

• Focus: The attacker can spend a focus token to

change all of his <eyeball> results to <bit> results.

• Target Lock: The attacker can spend a target

lock he has on the defender to reroll any number

of his attack dice.

• Card Ability: The attacker can resolve a card

ability that modifies attack dice and that he has

not already resolved during this attack

The "Modifying Dice" entry on page 13 of the RRG defines what qualifies as dice modification.

MODIFYING DICE

Players can modify dice by spending focus, evade,

and target lock tokens and by resolving card abilities.

Dice can be modified in the following ways:

• Add: To add a die result, place an unused die

displaying the result next to the rolled dice. A die

added in this way is treated as a normal die for

all purposes and can be modified and canceled.

• Change: To change a die result, rotate the die

so that its faceup side displays the new result.

• Reroll: To reroll a die result, pick up the die and

roll it again.

• Dice can be modified by multiple effects, but a die

cannot be rerolled more than once.

Fun facts of the day: Opinions are not Facts!

Palpatine lets you drop bombs before Slamming.

Can we please let this fall off of the front page? Someone might see the title, think it's true, and not bother to read any further. We really don't need misleading titles giving out bad rule advice on the front page.

And yes, I realize that by posting this it moves up a spot or two on the front page, there is no need to point out the irony.

Everybody is missing the part where "resolving card abilities" is also a modification.

And for a less flippant response than my other one:

The section you are looking at is the section describing the steps in the combat phase. It isn't defining what a modification is, it is giving you examples of the things that are able to modify dice. This is the section for "Modify Attack Dice" from pg. 5 of the rules reference guide. There is a similar list in the "Modify Defender Dice" step.

3. Modify Attack Dice: The defender can

resolve any card abilities that allow him to modify

the attack dice. Then the attacker can modify his

attack dice in one or more of the following ways

as many times as possible:

• Focus: The attacker can spend a focus token to

change all of his <eyeball> results to <bit> results.

• Target Lock: The attacker can spend a target

lock he has on the defender to reroll any number

of his attack dice.

• Card Ability: The attacker can resolve a card

ability that modifies attack dice and that he has

not already resolved during this attack

The "Modifying Dice" entry on page 13 of the RRG defines what qualifies as dice modification.

MODIFYING DICE

Players can modify dice by spending focus, evade,

and target lock tokens and by resolving card abilities.

Dice can be modified in the following ways:

• Add: To add a die result, place an unused die

displaying the result next to the rolled dice. A die

added in this way is treated as a normal die for

all purposes and can be modified and canceled.

• Change: To change a die result, rotate the die

so that its faceup side displays the new result.

• Reroll: To reroll a die result, pick up the die and

roll it again.

• Dice can be modified by multiple effects, but a die

cannot be rerolled more than once.

Compare Results: For each Evade result, the defender cancels one Hit or Crit result. All Hit results must be canceled before any Crit results may be canceled. If at least one Hit or Crit result remains uncanceled, the defender is hit by the attack; otherwise, the attack misses.

That's about as solid as you can get that cancellation is not modification.

Can we please let this fall off of the front page? Someone might see the title, think it's true, and not bother to read any further. We really don't need misleading titles giving out bad rule advice on the front page.

If people are silly enough to base their understanding of the rules, by only reading a headline on a forum, they deserve to live in ignorance

By not letting the thread die, at least it is easier for people who might think the headline is the correct rule to read that it is wrong