Need advice to get 1 free point on K/T70/Y list

By Vitalis, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Hi

So recently i started flying following list:

Poe Dameron

Veterans

Autothrusters

R2-D2

Gold Squadron

TLT

Miranda Doni

TLT

C3P0

And i loved it, works like charm. But recently my buddy asked me hey why dont you make that Y a stresshog? So i modified it:

Gold Squadron

TLT

R3-A2

BTL-A4

Miranda Doni

TLT

Jan Ors

Poe Dameron

Veterans

Autothrusters

R2-D2

But that leaves me on 101 points....and i see 3 options now:

-no vets on poe. I really dont wanna do it considering all those phantoms flying around again.

-no jan on miranda. I can live with that one but it leaves her a bit vunerable.

-R5-P9 instead of R2-D2 on Poe. I can live with that one too but i found i trigger r2 almost 2 times more then r5.

After wave 8 i would just add Adaptability to Poe and be on my way but now i have to make some sacrifices.

Or maybe just leave it be without stresshog?

Edited by Vitalis

Why does R2D2 trigger so much for you? I find the freedom to regen after white moves with R5P9 way more flexible. R2 makes you much easier to block, too.

I'd switch the droids, myself.

I also agree about the droid switch for R5-P9. Focus on Poe is solid because of his ability. The turns when you cannot take a focus, you either got blocked (R2-D2 would be better in this case), or you performed a red maneuver to turn around. Either way you lose out on his ability in the situation, but it's not that bad. Many more options after Wave 8...including some Ghost crew members instead of Jan and the Adaptability card you mentioned.

I preffer R2 cause of the option to just move forward 1 or 2 and adjust to enemy movement with boost in some uncertain situations. Just individual flying preff:) Plus i like having that shield before combat rather then after.

But your right i guess, R5 is not really a sacrifice here just playstyle adjustment.

Alternatively, Ion Cannon Turret on the Y-Wing. It doesn't have the reach of TLT, but a ship that gets both stressed and ioned is a dead ship.

Edited by ObiWonka

I've been working on a very similar list and made the switch to R5-P9. The only other difference is I have Tactician over Jan Ors. Thoughts?

Alternatively, Ion Cannon Turret on the Y-Wing. It doesn't have the reach of TLT, but a ship that gets both stressed and ioned is a dead ship.

Hmm...thats worth trying out for sure.

I've been working on a very similar list and made the switch to R5-P9. The only other difference is I have Tactician over Jan Ors. Thoughts?

Tactician would be:

1 Overkill paired with stress Y.

2 Miranda is vunerable without jan/c3po too IMO.

Alternatively, Ion Cannon Turret on the Y-Wing. It doesn't have the reach of TLT, but a ship that gets both stressed and ioned is a dead ship.

Hmm...thats worth trying out for sure.

I've been working on a very similar list and made the switch to R5-P9. The only other difference is I have Tactician over Jan Ors. Thoughts?

Tactician would be:

1 Overkill paired with stress Y.

2 Miranda is vunerable without jan/c3po too IMO.

Fair enough. I'll have to try it with Jan Ors then.

I've ran a pretty similar list using

Poe

Veteran instincts

R5-P9

Autothrusters

Marinda

Tactician

Tlt

Gold squadron

Twin laser turret

Btl

R3a2

Works like a charm

Been considering taking off R5-P9 off poe for R2d2

The people who suggest having the white maneuver haven't come across a stressbot build using poe with R5-P9 I think.

If poe did get double stres, well that's two turns no regen.

Actually I was considering taking off Tactician off marinda go with R2d2 and have to pt for initiative bid.

I'd rather have my poe move after my opponent, or marinda move after Luke, or echo.

I found I either forget about Tactician or it never came into play anyway on marinda.

Most opponent just focus on the ywing Pretty quick

Hi

So recently i started flying following list:

Poe Dameron

Veterans

Autothrusters

R2-D2

Gold Squadron

TLT

Miranda Doni

TLT

C3P0

And i loved it, works like charm. But recently my buddy asked me hey why dont you make that Y a stresshog? So i modified it:

Gold Squadron

TLT

R3-A2

BTL-A4

Miranda Doni

TLT

Jan Ors

Poe Dameron

Veterans

Autothrusters

R2-D2

But that leaves me on 101 points....and i see 3 options now:

-no vets on poe. I really dont wanna do it considering all those phantoms flying around again.

-no jan on miranda. I can live with that one but it leaves her a bit vunerable.

-R5-P9 instead of R2-D2 on Poe. I can live with that one too but i found i trigger r2 almost 2 times more then r5.

After wave 8 i would just add Adaptability to Poe and be on my way but now i have to make some sacrifices.

Or maybe just leave it be without stresshog?

I thought you said R5 gave you more options? Hahaha. Like I said, R2 is way better. Don't argue for the sake of arguing man. You're better than that.

Edited by Boba Fatt

Miranda

TLT

C-3PO

Gold Squad Pilot

TLT

Gold Squad Pilot

R3

BTL-A

TLT

Bandit Squad Pilot.

Yes you lose Poe, but you have a stresshog, Regen, and can take a beating on Miranda

I've ran a pretty similar list using

Poe

Veteran instincts

R5-P9

Autothrusters

Marinda

Tactician

Tlt

Gold squadron

Twin laser turret

Btl

R3a2

Works like a charm

Been considering taking off R5-P9 off poe for R2d2

The people who suggest having the white maneuver haven't come across a stressbot build using poe with R5-P9 I think.

If poe did get double stres, well that's two turns no regen.

Actually I was considering taking off Tactician off marinda go with R2d2 and have to pt for initiative bid.

I'd rather have my poe move after my opponent, or marinda move after Luke, or echo.

I found I either forget about Tactician or it never came into play anyway on marinda.

Most opponent just focus on the ywing Pretty quick

Removing 1 stress a turn when you're likely taking 2 or more a turn doesn't really do anything for you. Once you're hit with stress, it's game over for Poe. That's why I've decided to stop running him

Hi

So recently i started flying following list:

Poe Dameron

Veterans

Autothrusters

R2-D2

Gold Squadron

TLT

Miranda Doni

TLT

C3P0

And i loved it, works like charm. But recently my buddy asked me hey why dont you make that Y a stresshog? So i modified it:

Gold Squadron

TLT

R3-A2

BTL-A4

Miranda Doni

TLT

Jan Ors

Poe Dameron

Veterans

Autothrusters

R2-D2

But that leaves me on 101 points....and i see 3 options now:

-no vets on poe. I really dont wanna do it considering all those phantoms flying around again.

-no jan on miranda. I can live with that one but it leaves her a bit vunerable.

-R5-P9 instead of R2-D2 on Poe. I can live with that one too but i found i trigger r2 almost 2 times more then r5.

After wave 8 i would just add Adaptability to Poe and be on my way but now i have to make some sacrifices.

Or maybe just leave it be without stresshog?

I thought you said R5 gave you more options? Hahaha. Like I said, R2 is way better. Don't argue for the sake of arguing man. You're better than that.

This post is from almost a month ago....i had bazylion of games with Poe since and yea R5 is better IMO after all those games.

-with R2 you are prone to:

predictible block

to make hard turn you need to boost

to make that boost you loose all modification of dice

R2 wins only vs controls and in timing (regen after movement vs regen on the end of turn)

Its you who had "R2 is better hahaha" without any arguments, so who is arguing for the sake of arguing on month old post?

Edited by Vitalis

In my experience, This list is the best XKY.

Poe

VI

Autothrusters

R5-P9

Miranda

TlT

Stresshog w/ TLT

In my experience, This list is the best XKY.

Poe

VI

Autothrusters

R5-P9

Miranda

TlT

Stresshog w/ TLT

Thats exacly my late list:) But why no crewman on Miranda?

I preffer R2 cause of the option to just move forward 1 or 2 and adjust to enemy movement with boost in some uncertain situations.

That same option exists with R5-P9. The fact is you have more maneuvering options with R5-P9, obviously because you're not limited to green maneuvers to recover 1 shield. This translates to less predictability and potentially decreases your likelihood of getting shot at (i.e. arc-dodge) and/or bumping. What R5-P9 takes away is your action flexibility.. you have to take a Focus action, then when spending Focus tokens, if you're unlucky and roll 2+ eyes, you'll have to weigh the advantages of spending the Focus token to modify your roll, or to hold onto it to recover 1 shield later. Bottomline, R5-P9 on Poe is a clear winner between the two.

(edit) Didn't consider stress-bot. Donnie makes a great point.

Edited by SPARTAN VI

The R2 Vs. R5 argument is situational. R5 has more synergy with Poe's ability. That being said, it's useless if you're stressed. A lot of people are running stresshog a right now just to combat Poe. Problem there is that even with getting 1 shield after a green maneuver, Poe usually doesn't last more than a round or two after getting double stressed. With the current meta shifting to anti Poe builds, I decided to stop playing him altogether. I basically took Paul Heaver's build and replaced Poe with Miranda

In my experience, This list is the best XKY.

Poe

VI

Autothrusters

R5-P9

Miranda

TlT

Stresshog w/ TLT

Thats exacly my late list:) But why no crewman on Miranda?

I don't actually own rebel Aces or 3PO. But getting both soon so might change

If you go to a store championship and place in top 32, you'll get a 3PO. Many people compete in multiple SCs and probably have more than 1 they're willing to sell or trade.

From your original post, swap out VI on Poe with Adaptability when it comes out.

If you go to a store championship and place in top 32, you'll get a 3PO. Many people compete in multiple SCs and probably have more than 1 they're willing to sell or trade.

Yeah, I'm going to 2 small ones so won't be a problem

Ion stress hog or else swap out Jan for lone wolf or tactician.

Easy.