Rey (Force Awakens Spoilers- (do we still need the warning?))

By Vestij Jai Galaar, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

I'd be interested to know how Rey got that flight simulator she had in the book Before the Awakening. And whether the incident in that book was her only flight time before she flew Falcon.

Clearly the Force was a big part of her ability to fly so well with so little experience.

I don't have anything against midi-clorians either, but I suspect disney will keep all mention of anything even the least bit controversial out of these films.

Edited by Vestij Jai Galaar

Regarding midi-chlorians, the one time it came up, Qui-Gon even said that it was ultimately just a measuring device, not unlike one used to determine a person's cholesterol level or if they have diabetes. He never said it was the source of the Force, simply a means by which they were able to commune with it.

But since it's one those "hot topic" items that people bring up with complaining about the prequels (right up there with Jar Jar and wooden acting from many of the leads), it's probably going to be pushed to the side along with the bulk of the prequel era material in favor of focusing on classic Star Wars in the form of the Original Trilogy.

Midi-chlorians? I have nothing against them. I mean, it's only logical that the Jedi, being a monk tradition that has studied it for many years, would devise some way of monitoring it in potential pupils. I just feel that they, like many who despise the term over estimate the value of a single word, a desire to give a terminology to what was previously very vague. No more vague then using parsecs to describe a journey.

Being a scientist, I can accept the term exists, because at the same time there also isn't always a significance associated to numbers. Another example of world building that was unwelcome, thus another reason to keep movie seven to be scarce on many details.

I view what we were told about midi-chlorians to be a non-omniscient narrator's interpretation of how an observable phenomenon works. He may or may not have an accurate, complete, or even meaningful take on the role they play.

Regarding midi-chlorians, the one time it came up, Qui-Gon even said that it was ultimately just a measuring device, not unlike one used to determine a person's cholesterol level or if they have diabetes. He never said it was the source of the Force, simply a means by which they were able to commune with it.

But since it's one those "hot topic" items that people bring up with complaining about the prequels (right up there with Jar Jar and wooden acting from many of the leads), it's probably going to be pushed to the side along with the bulk of the prequel era material in favor of focusing on classic Star Wars in the form of the Original Trilogy.

A theory some Jedi held a long time ago...

Rey as a Skywalker (while it's not something I hope for) is something that could work if Luke is completely burnt out and under the opinion Skywalkers bring the galaxy nothing but misery. It'd be a nice way to invert the mentor shtick, too.

Wow.. Just wow. Everytime i see these theories about Rey being Luke's daughter, I think "what a boring and lazy option that would be".

Here is how I see it: Rey is related to none of the legacy characters. There is a reason for this. First off, we see Han take a shining to her, and this is probably because she reminds him a bit if himself and, likely, the child he lost. Han is feeling a bit empty and Rey makes him feel like a parent. Losing a child, in this case a different type of loss, a more metaphysical one, is the toughest thing ever I've been told. Han ran away from the only thing that likely made him feel he belongs. Rey rekindles that feeling.

Maz's comment about knowing the truth: has nothing to do with some force induced memory block and everything to do with denial. Rey wants to believe that her family is coming back, and they didn't abandon her. The truth is she knows they aren't coming. Her family couldn't and didn't care. You know who does care? The young stormtrooper that just met her. Who Chewie tells her it was HIS idea. The idea that someone she just met would risk his life to come back for her whereas her family abandons her is a huge, and important, point.

All this leads to the concept of "family". That it doesn't have to be shared blood that makes family, only that the people care about each other. What I see happening is there will be an epic showdown somewhere and Luke or Leia will choose to save Rey over their blood relative. Not in a vengeful way, but because this abandoned scavenger girl becomes more family than Kylo Ren did in his other life.

Bonus review: Leia and Rey's Hug. No blood connection there, but an emotional one. Leia is likely very empathetic and perceptive. She probably knew how Han had a fatherly ferling towards Rey, and seeing her so upset about the loss of the man she herself loved, she does the motherly thing and consoles Rey, another symbolism moment of family directed to this abandoned child. Leia was also not as affected by Han's loss as she had already Lost him years earlier, and this girl helped bring back, symbolically anyways, the Man that Han had become - the father.

Yes, i believe it would be a more poignant and interesting way to explore the family themed story by one of acceptance and belonging.

The first time I saw the movie I thought she was Luke's daughter.

The second time I wasn't so sure, nothing the character says or does really seems to indicate she's Luke's daughter.

Then I read the Kenobi theory, I thought this was it. It didn't make all that sense for now, but it was solid.

But after giving it many thoughts and reading several theories, I think the whole "who are Rey parents?" is a red herring brillantly built into the movie to completely shock people with the revelation that Rey is Anakin reincarnated through the Force in the next movie.

Something that cought my attention from the first time I saw the movie is how similar Rey is to Anakin in The Phantom Menace. The way she looks, the way the dresses, the way she speaks, his extraordinary skills at a young age, the scene when she puts on the rebel helmet. Everything says young Anakin to me. Of course this could have just being an artistic desition with no narrative implications, but I don't know. If she's Anaking reborn a lot of things could get explained (for example why she doesn't hear Anakin's voice when she picks up the lightsaber; she only hears Yoda and Obi-Wan, but Anakin was a Force-ghost too).

So, for me, Rey is Anakin trying to "finish what he started" on his role as the Chosen, opposed to Kylo Ren trying to fullfill Vader's legacy.

Edited by Maese Mateo

The first time I saw the movie I thought she was Luke's daughter.

The second time I wasn't so sure, nothing the character says or does really seems to indicate she's Luke's daughter.

Then I read the Kenobi theory, I thought this was it. It didn't make all that sense for now, but it was solid.

But after giving it many thoughts and reading several theories, I think the whole "who are Rey parents?" is a red herring brillantly built into the movie to completely shock people with the revelation that Rey is Anakin reincarnated through the Force in the next movie.

Something that cought my attention from the first time I saw the movie is how similar Rey is to Anakin in The Phantom Menace. The way she looks, the way the dresses, the way she speaks, his extraordinary skills at a young age, the scene when she puts on the rebel helmet. Everything says young Anakin to me. Of course this could have just being an artistic desition with no narrative implications, but I don't know. If she's Anaking reborn a lot of things could get explained (for example why she doesn't hear Anakin's voice when she picks up the lightsaber; she only hears Yoda and Obi-Wan, but Anakin was a Force-ghost too).

So, for me, Rey is Anakin trying to "finish what he started" on his role as the Chosen.

Even if she's not reincarnated, she just might be the new Chosen.

I don't know how you make her Luke's daughter. Uncle Han and Uncle Chewie don't recognize her at all? Leia? Her cousin Kylo? Luke would dump his daughter on Mad Max world? When did he have time to have a daughter and why wouldn't you let Uncle Han look after her as opposed to leaving her in a space junkyard?

Anything is possible I suppose with a creative pen. I throw out that she's a Kenobi only because there is some tie implied with the voice of Obi Wan and Yoda, Luke's saber calling to her, and I just don't see her being a Skywalker as terribly realistic.

Someone else completely unrelated to anyone previously is fine, always nice to have a new bloodline, but with the whole Force dream and Luke's saber, it seems like the groundwork for some personal connection has been laid.

Edited by 2P51

Personally I hope Rey isn't related to anyone famous at all. Not every single character has to be a scion of some "established" family in the Star Wars galaxy. If we start going down that path, pretty soon Finn will be Lando Calrissian's long-lost son, and the reason why C-3P0 has a new arm and R2-D2 is shut down is that they took parts of themselves and built their lovechild BB-8.

This pretty much sums up my position on the ancestry of Force-users in the film series. Let's hope that the new series writers will at least take SOME piece of the prequels and acknowledge alternate sources of Force-sensitivity than the Skywalkers (or the Kenobis). If not, the future for the Jedi (and the Sith, for that matter) will look pretty incesty and grim: "Got a few extra chromosomes? Must be a Force-sensitive."

I'm not sure how I feel about the Anakin Reincarnated pitch up there. I think it could be awesome if done correctly (and tbh, why shouldn't force ghosts be capable of reincarnating?). But if it starts mirroring RL religions too closely it'd just get a tired sigh from me. As with almost everything, it's really in the 'how'...

: "Got a few extra chromosomes? Must be a Force-sensitive."

Hermaphroditic, self-replicating force users are the future. We'll even call it "Attack of the Clones".

Personally I hope Rey isn't related to anyone famous at all. Not every single character has to be a scion of some "established" family in the Star Wars galaxy. If we start going down that path, pretty soon Finn will be Lando Calrissian's long-lost son, and the reason why C-3P0 has a new arm and R2-D2 is shut down is that they took parts of themselves and built their lovechild BB-8.

C-3PO's red arm is a weapon,,, that's why it's red. It's to give enemies a 'Show and Tell' alarm... Hmmm gold protocol droid, but a red arm.... hmmm *holsters weapon, walks away*

Back to topic though,,, I'd prefer a completely UNRELATED TO ANYBODY storyline.. Title:' The Force AWAKENS'... i'm hoping for the '... will of The Force...' to just choose suitable people across the universe - bring on Force Wars!!!

Her cousin Kylo?

I got the impression Kylo does recognize her. That's why he gets so upset when he hears that a girl was with BB8.

Edited by Maese Mateo

Hmmm... I almost think that Kylo gets upset because he wakes up in the morning, and goes to sleep, and that there's air and living stuff around him, and existence in general. He's kinda an emo kid with a lightsaber.

You HAD to bring emo's into it *facepalm* :D

Hmmm... I almost think that Kylo gets upset because he wakes up in the morning, and goes to sleep, and that there's air and living stuff around him, and existence in general. He's kinda an emo kid with a lightsaber.

I described him as 'angsty' to a friend I work with, who promptly got defensive about it. As for Rey, I liked the character overall - the innate knowledge of the force was worrisome - but when it comes to her lineage, "I've got a bad feeling about this." I will remain cautiously optimistic, but I'm guessing it's going to be one of those odds-defying coincidences. :)

Her cousin Kylo?

I got the impression Kylo does recognize her. That's why he gets so upset when he hears that a girl was with BB8.

Maybe he's just a chauvinistic pig and doesn't think girls should have droids coz girls are yacky and smell of nice things and like unicorns and hello kitty and horses and pink stuff and stuff like that

In this context, I am sorely tempted to post 'Poor Little Sith Lord', but I think it qualifies as NSFW...

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So I'll just post this. Episode 7 is maximum edge.

I personally think Rey was cloned by the Empire from Luke's hand to be their counterpart. However someone internal betrayed them, dumped her on an isolated planet for her own safety and fled. So she's a daughter of Luke, but not one that he concieved.

Very much a sort of throwback to how Sidious gave form to Anaikin. Only unlike he she will make the right choices.

This was my theory I tell my friends too. Hux mentions how they kidnap their troops at a young age and condition them as soliders over making clones like in the prequels. Maybe they were doing that and they've had bad experiences? :P

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Spinning the reincarnation thing a bit further, something I would love to see, but is sadly unlikely to happen, is Rey being somehow related to...

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Her cousin Kylo?

I got the impression Kylo does recognize her. That's why he gets so upset when he hears that a girl was with BB8.

Indeed. It appeared to me that both Kylo and Han recognized her. Kylo flipped out, and Han looked guilty. It also seemed to me that Kylo started looking for Rey as much as BB-8 after he heard about her.

The first time I saw the movie I thought she was Luke's daughter.

The second time I wasn't so sure, nothing the character says or does really seems to indicate she's Luke's daughter.

Then I read the Kenobi theory, I thought this was it. It didn't make all that sense for now, but it was solid.

But after giving it many thoughts and reading several theories, I think the whole "who are Rey parents?" is a red herring brillantly built into the movie to completely shock people with the revelation that Rey is Anakin reincarnated through the Force in the next movie.

Something that cought my attention from the first time I saw the movie is how similar Rey is to Anakin in The Phantom Menace. The way she looks, the way the dresses, the way she speaks, his extraordinary skills at a young age, the scene when she puts on the rebel helmet. Everything says young Anakin to me. Of course this could have just being an artistic desition with no narrative implications, but I don't know. If she's Anaking reborn a lot of things could get explained (for example why she doesn't hear Anakin's voice when she picks up the lightsaber; she only hears Yoda and Obi-Wan, but Anakin was a Force-ghost too).

So, for me, Rey is Anakin trying to "finish what he started" on his role as the Chosen, opposed to Kylo Ren trying to fullfill Vader's legacy.

Kylo ends up fighting the very person he wants to make proud!

That somehow doesn't seem entirely implausible to me, though I really hope Rey is her own person.

Spinning the reincarnation thing a bit further, something I would love to see, but is sadly unlikely to happen, is Rey being somehow related to...

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No, I don't think so. Both characters are very "feral", but Jarael has a darker edge to her, and she's very flighty at times. Rey might have a dark side (which we will no doubt see in the future, esp. related to family-fears), but she seems "committed" in a way that Jarael wasn't.

Jarael is also emotionally a bit needier than Rey.

I'm a fan of Jarael. The series could do a lot worse than using her as a template for Rey. But I don't think they're headed that way.