Female pilot cards - List, request and talk

By Blail Blerg, in X-Wing

Ibtisam, Jan Ors, Miranda Doni are the only female rebel pilots I know in game. Nora flew a Y-Wing, Poe's mom an A-Wing and a N-1, a few rogues in Xs, Blade squadron had a female pilot(s?) in Bs.

Ghost will add a couple more.

Scum has the strongest roster; you can make a decent list between Kath/Latts/Drea/Guri (and soon, maybe, Manaroo).

I read the OP three times and I still don't really know what this thread is about, though. If it was political and you were critiquing the lack of women in the game, sure, I could get behind that. But you want Photoshopped custom cards and fanfic that won't stick? Ok I guess. I can definitely help with the first, and possibly with the second, but I don't understand what for.

I've had the very lucky experience to teach this game to a somewhat varied group of people, and in this certain case, its included a rather high number of women. (no asian grandmas though, that was a funny story I heard once)

Now, some like it, and some don't. Just like anyone.

But one thing I've found that has really worked and resonated with some women that have played the game is - having a female pilot card in their list, or at the least on the field for groups and lots of players.

What intrigues is that its the idea that sticks: Ibtisam's card has a Bwing artwork. Nobody can tell she's a fishy lady in there. But being told that this pilot is a girl. It seems to stick.

Does that help? And it's a universal. In pretty much any game system, women are encouraged to take it up / continue playing by seeing women characters.

Yeah I know. But that's why we need a thread saying there are too few, that's stupid, and it's important to include more. I don't see where this thread can go that is positive, other than perhaps helping Blail bring some of his friends into the game. Which is totally fine, but does he really need us to Google "Ibtisam" and then c+p it onto the card?

Aight I guess.

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Oooh. That's actually pretty cool.

Gib, don't get too caught out of shape on this. Politics will do that to you.

I'm just making a note of it. Making some conversation. Seeing what other people have been thinking. etc.

Gib, don't get too caught out of shape on this. Politics will do that to you.

I'm just making a note of it. Making some conversation. Seeing what other people have been thinking. etc.

Welllll, I guess based on your post and other posts I've seen you make I suspect you're interested in the politics of the topic (and on what I perceive to be the correct side of them), and I feel like this thread is kind of stealthily trying to approach them while hiding behind an expression of non-controversy.

It's cool though. I might have time later today to slap together a couple more shops. Although make no mistake, they're all going to be google image search character + google image search x-wing card -- no artistic talent over here. ;)

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As someone stated, the ghost expansion gives some really strong additions to the Lady League.

I do agree with the sentiment in the OP however - and it's not political, it's purely practical.

My 6 year old daughter now loves Star Wars, and thought the latest film and Rebels were fantastic. Why? Strong girl characters that take the lead and don't need rescuing every five minutes! She can relate to them, she can play at being them - and best of all she wants a "ghost" model when it comes out so that she can play space ships with her daddy!

So yes please; more good female pilots = more accessibility to more people = more new players...

Yeah I know. But that's why we need a thread saying there are too few, that's stupid, and it's important to include more. I don't see where this thread can go that is positive, other than perhaps helping Blail bring some of his friends into the game. Which is totally fine, but does he really need us to Google "Ibtisam" and then c+p it onto the card?

Aight I guess.

There can't be "too few" neither can there be "too many" female characters.

if there is a character add him\her\it.

No need to spam them for some weird "quota"

we've seen far too many good films spoiled by racial\ethnic quotas already.

The game and universe should stay free of the taint.

speaking of "rebels" and quotas >_>

half must be females, half must be aliens. quotas...

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Edit: Redline
(People jokingly say this is the girl from the Tie Fighter anime with the super bomber.)

OH MAN YUS! now I kind of want a Punisher.....

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Gib, don't get too caught out of shape on this. Politics will do that to you.

I'm just making a note of it. Making some conversation. Seeing what other people have been thinking. etc.

Welllll, I guess based on your post and other posts I've seen you make I suspect you're interested in the politics of the topic (and on what I perceive to be the correct side of them), and I feel like this thread is kind of stealthily trying to approach them while hiding behind an expression of non-controversy.

It's cool though. I might have time later today to slap together a couple more shops. Although make no mistake, they're all going to be google image search character + google image search x-wing card -- no artistic talent over here. ;)

See. We can get along. For now. =)

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As someone stated, the ghost expansion gives some really strong additions to the Lady League.

I do agree with the sentiment in the OP however - and it's not political, it's purely practical.

My 6 year old daughter now loves Star Wars, and thought the latest film and Rebels were fantastic. Why? Strong girl characters that take the lead and don't need rescuing every five minutes! She can relate to them, she can play at being them - and best of all she wants a "ghost" model when it comes out so that she can play space ships with her daddy!

So yes please; more good female pilots = more accessibility to more people = more new players...

About a million fathers have said this now. All over local xwing pages and stuff. The girls want to play. And the girls want to play girl characters.

Hell, at 6-8 years old, did you boys want to play girl characters? for the most part no.

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also, I first played my punisher. MEH.

The second time i played it just recently. WOW. Its an incredible ship. The feeling of fear that overcomes your poor opponents who irrationally pick on the Punisher, letting your ace finish them off completely. The actual firepower if they let it attack.

I used Deathrain. I thought she/it/he/thing wasn't going to be very good. But dang. I was really floored. My hint: Seismic Charges.

Also, that girl needs to get into this game. seriously. She fits redline more, but redline is a known character.

Didn't we make Redline the lady from TIE Fighter, since that one did fire lots and lots of super accurate Cluster Missiles?

Redline's a psychotic Black Eight squadron pilot from the TFU supplementary material. He takes over Black Eight after Juno is removed from command after the Bombing of Caamas.

we've seen far too many good films spoiled by racial\ethnic quotas already.

Rebels:

Hera Syndulla

Sabine Wren

Ibtisam

Nera Dantels

Jan Ors

Miranda Doni

Red Ace or Blue Ace (If you assume one of them is Jessika Pava)

Those are the named female pilots so far.

Crew:

Hera

Sabine

Jan

Leia Organa

I think that about does it for standard play, unless you want to include R2-K2, the "Targeting Astromech."

Back to the topic at hand - as FGD has mentioned a couple of times, obviously generics and FO/T-70 "Leaders" and "Aces" can be any gender. Personally I try to default to referring to them as female if I've got no other information to the contrary as a tiny stupid personal gesture toward bringing balance to the Force.

Don't forget that some of the crew cards are female, e.g Leia, Jan, Ysanne Isard, Mara Jade, rec spec, bombardier, Intel agent, rebel captive and fleet officer, as well as various epic crew.

There are also women using other upgrades such as experimental interface.

Didn't we make Redline the lady from TIE Fighter, since that one did fire lots and lots of super accurate Cluster Missiles?

Redline's a psychotic Black Eight squadron pilot from the TFU supplementary material. He takes over Black Eight after Juno is removed from command after the Bombing of Caamas.

Replace "he" with "she" and the picture gets no less realistic xD

even more so

One for the Rebel Veterans, if Y-wings are in there, Norra Wexley the only Y-wing pilot to enter the Death Star at the battle of Endor.

Bit OT, but I'm kind of hoping it will be Y and X. There needs to be more Y pilots, so add her in, and give it a title that gives up the turret for a crew slot. Pretty sure at crew + torpedo (or Bomb! Just add Loadout, Munitions and Sabine) would be both fun and viable. The T-65 needs another source of Integrated Astromech, and since we got Maarek in a Defender, why not Corran or Keyan in an X-Wing?

we've seen far too many good films spoiled by racial\ethnic quotas already.

Citation incredibly ****ing needed.

THE FORCE AWAKENS anyone? (I'm joking! Don't spear me!)

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Crew upgrades honeslty don't seem to give the sense of BEING the pilot. Or BEING the one who is flying or role playing as the character. (Except if youre old and smelly. Then you can RP as Palpy). Cuz cmon. Let's be honest, what's the name of the shuttle pilot: Palpshuttle.

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The whole letting generics or "random ace/leader" be female is of course fine, but its like. not as specific is: "this pilot IS female. Here's their backstory. They have a cool ability. You can read up about them if you really like them."

Edited by Blail Blerg

Also, that girl needs to get into this game. seriously. She fits redline more, but redline is a known character.

Also, she's kind of...blue. Just rename Redline Blueline and use that image.

Gender is a social construct, and we shouldn't support the cis binary... umm...patriarchy and umm..sorry, best trolling I can do.

Yeah I know. But that's why we need a thread saying there are too few, that's stupid, and it's important to include more. I don't see where this thread can go that is positive, other than perhaps helping Blail bring some of his friends into the game. Which is totally fine, but does he really need us to Google "Ibtisam" and then c+p it onto the card?

Aight I guess.

we've seen far too many good films spoiled by racial\ethnic quotas already.

Care to provide an example of this?

Yeah I know. But that's why we need a thread saying there are too few, that's stupid, and it's important to include more. I don't see where this thread can go that is positive, other than perhaps helping Blail bring some of his friends into the game. Which is totally fine, but does he really need us to Google "Ibtisam" and then c+p it onto the card?

Aight I guess.

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Amazing. As a big fan of Ibtisam, I wish this were real!

See Gib. You can be of use to us. Resist no longer. Search your feelings.

Crew upgrades honeslty don't seem to give the sense of BEING the pilot. Or BEING the one who is flying or role playing as the character. (Except if youre old and smelly. Then you can RP as Palpy). Cuz cmon. Let's be honest, what's the name of the shuttle pilot: Palpshuttle.

Imagine Isaard sleeping on a decimator

Suddenly the shields go down, a cockpit is wreathed in fire, Chiraneau is about to become a splat of blood on the screen, catching the "IGNORE PILOT EPT AND CARD TEXT" crit

Moff surges out, throwing Vader in the way of teh blast, closing the gaping hole to save chiraneau,

isard gets thrown down from the bed by the explosion, gets up screaming and bashes the steersman until the deci gets an evade token.

Nah, crew are fun in the way they act

imagine Vader bashing his ship with lightsaber and throwing chunks at foe >_>

Yeah I know. But that's why we need a thread saying there are too few, that's stupid, and it's important to include more. I don't see where this thread can go that is positive, other than perhaps helping Blail bring some of his friends into the game. Which is totally fine, but does he really need us to Google "Ibtisam" and then c+p it onto the card?

Aight I guess.

we've seen far too many good films spoiled by racial\ethnic quotas already.

Care to provide an example of this?

Every terrible Hollywood movie that fulfilled its racial quota of white leading characters...so 95% of movies.

Crew upgrades honeslty don't seem to give the sense of BEING the pilot. Or BEING the one who is flying or role playing as the character. (Except if youre old and smelly. Then you can RP as Palpy). Cuz cmon. Let's be honest, what's the name of the shuttle pilot: Palpshuttle.

Imagine Isaard sleeping on a decimator

Suddenly the shields go down, a cockpit is wreathed in fire, Chiraneau is about to become a splat of blood on the screen, catching the "IGNORE PILOT EPT AND CARD TEXT" crit

Moff surges out, throwing Vader in the way of teh blast, closing the gaping hole to save chiraneau,

isard gets thrown down from the bed by the explosion, gets up screaming and bashes the steersman until the deci gets an evade token.

Nah, crew are fun in the way they act

imagine Vader bashing his ship with lightsaber and throwing chunks at foe >_>

Have you read the book where he crashes his ship into a rebels freighter, gets out and slaughters everyone? Pretty good moment.

The whole letting generics or "random ace/leader" be female is of course fine, but its like. not as specific is: "this pilot IS female. Here's their backstory. They have a cool ability. You can read up about them if you really like them."