The new astromechs and upgrades for the X-wing has brought new life to the T-65s. There have been many topics about X-wing lists, but I'd like to focus on Wedge.

BB-8 seems to have finally given Wedge the post dial movement action that he needs to survive, long term, as an ace. Here is my initial idea:

Wedge+Lone Wolf+BB-8+Integrated Astromech

2x Dagger+Heavy Laser Cannon+Fire Control System

This puts you at 99 points and gives you plenty of firepower. The idea is to have the B-wings hang back and keep the pressure on at range 3 with their HLC. By second round of firing, they should have focus and Target Lock tokens. Spending the points to make then PS 4 will mean they drop those PS 1-3 gremlins before they get a chance to shoot. Wedge should get a boost in defense from LW and BB-8 will help keep him out of a few firing arcs. If your opponent does not go after Wedge first, then they have Wedge behind them! (Win for you) If they split their forces, that is less ships trying to fire at Wedge (win for you).

What Wedge lists have you been tinkering with?

BB-8 without PTL is a waste IMHO

BB-8 without PTL is a waste IMHO

And you could go that route. But Wedge does not have the Boost action. Second, he can't take Autothrusters. This lead me to think that LW would be the better choice to grant him a little defensive cousin (while still adding to his offense).

BB-8 without PTL is a waste IMHO

And you could go that route. But Wedge does not have the Boost action. Second, he can't take Autothrusters. This lead me to think that LW would be the better choice to grant him a little defensive cousin (while still adding to his offense).

He's not about defence, he's aout getting his shot EVERY TIME

and dealing a massive-3-4 dice attack with Tl and focus every time.

He's a DAMAGE BEAST

want a relentless son of a Hutt? Poe [aka Wannabe-wedge] is the choice

He's well-suited for surviving anything with LW + R2D2\K5R9 + At

I've been thinking about 66 pts. of B-Wings + X-Wing ace, never considered two daggers with HLC and FCS, thanks!

But my idea for tactics has actually been the opposite; I choose a more durable X-Wing, with regeneration of some sort, and try to make the Bs the primary target. Then, Lone Wolf Luke or whatever can do the endgame.

I think your approach requires careful maneuvering and is a bit more sensitive to mistakes, but it could be more deadly. Wedge seems vulnerable.

The new astromechs and upgrades for the X-wing has brought new life to the T-65s. There have been many topics about X-wing lists, but I'd like to focus on Wedge.

BB-8 seems to have finally given Wedge the post dial movement action that he needs to survive, long term, as an ace. Here is my initial idea:

Wedge+Lone Wolf+BB-8+Integrated Astromech

2x Dagger+Heavy Laser Cannon+Fire Control System

This puts you at 99 points and gives you plenty of firepower. The idea is to have the B-wings hang back and keep the pressure on at range 3 with their HLC. By second round of firing, they should have focus and Target Lock tokens. Spending the points to make then PS 4 will mean they drop those PS 1-3 gremlins before they get a chance to shoot. Wedge should get a boost in defense from LW and BB-8 will help keep him out of a few firing arcs. If your opponent does not go after Wedge first, then they have Wedge behind them! (Win for you) If they split their forces, that is less ships trying to fire at Wedge (win for you).

What Wedge lists have you been tinkering with?

I prefer Luke just because of his ability adds to longevity but its a fun list to play with

Given Integrated Astromech gives X-wings the points economy they need I've been wondering recently about Garven Dreis. Solid firepower but not a glaring threat, but he can hand off his focus token to an R5-P9 ship so it can regenerate.

The list is, as Ligula and Warpman pointed out, different that what we've typically seen. It will take good dial work to make this list as effective as I'd like it to be. Poe would be the more automatic choice for survivability, and honestly might be the better pilot to take (over Wedge) for survivability. But, as Warpman pointed out, I wanted OFFENSE! The hope, with two PS 4 HLCs backing him up, is that he drops ships before they can take him down. I also expect that in some games Wedge will die, but the Bs will easily clean up the leftovers.

Given Integrated Astromech gives X-wings the points economy they need I've been wondering recently about Garven Dreis. Solid firepower but not a glaring threat, but he can hand off his focus token to an R5-P9 ship so it can regenerate.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!1:-1,2:-1:20:;4:-1,2:-1:20:;44:-1,-1,-1,-1:-1:11:U.75;44:-1,-1,-1,-1:-1:-1:

The idea here is to give Biggs a focus AND an evade token every round. It makes him very durable. I've played this list without the IA mod. It was VERY successful at the time. Going to try it again now that it will be even MORE durable.

BB-8 without PTL is a waste IMHO

On some ships yea but on wedge its not necessarily worth the cost.

Wedge+Lone Wolf+BB-8+Integrated Astromech

2x Dagger+Heavy Laser Cannon+Fire Control System

This puts you at 99 points and gives you plenty of firepower. The idea is to have the B-wings hang back and keep the pressure on at range 3 with their HLC. By second round of firing, they should have focus and Target Lock tokens. Spending the points to make then PS 4 will mean they drop those PS 1-3 gremlins before they get a chance to shoot. Wedge should get a boost in defense from LW and BB-8 will help keep him out of a few firing arcs. If your opponent does not go after Wedge first, then they have Wedge behind them! (Win for you) If they split their forces, that is less ships trying to fire at Wedge (win for you).

What Wedge lists have you been tinkering with?

I dig the list. B-wings aren't a ship I'm overly familiar with tbh. They're on my list of things to explore more fully but I haven't really got around to focusing on them yet.

On wedge I've been liking a lean build of crackshot, bb8, ia. My last build I used joined him with these guys:

poe- r2d2, AT (now add adaptability for trip 9s)

jake- title, VI, PtL, prockets, chimps

Its a very fun list that covers most of the bases fairly well. Honestly wedge has been out performing poe for awhile and not just the above build but even the fully tooled poe. Ya poe lives longer but wedge/jake are usually more instrumental. If I keep messing with this I would want AT on jake and maybe even change out poe for.. something idk. Or swap AT to jake and go with ia on poe.

BB-8 without PTL is a waste IMHO

On some ships yea but on wedge its not necessarily worth the cost.

PS9 is the key with repositioning shenanigans, I'm afraid.

This list reminds me of N'dru (Lone Wolf) with 2 Heavy Laser Cannon Scyks. The difference is that the slower dial on the Bs should help Wedge keep the Lone Wolf range better than the Scyks can. But remember that BB-8 only triggers off greens, so your X-wing probably going as slow as the B-wings.

Honestly, I'd drop the Daggers to Blues, add Engine Upgrade, and trade Lone Wolf out for Push the Limit. With Engine Upgrade and a free barrel roll, you can dodge some arcs -- the best defense ever! But I do see the value of the Daggers, so your build is definitely worth a try. And be sure to report back after a few games and let us know how it goes!

PtL bb8 with full repositioning is the gold standard for x-wings, its just so expensive the opportunity cost isn't worth the return IMO.

Agreed on LW. Honestly while I love that card I'm just no good at keeping it active. I've tracked its success on many different lists I've used and its been laughable.. yet I keep including it for some **** reason lol.

Off topic a bit but I'm really starting to appreciate integrated astromech. The number of times its saved 2 damage or a game ending crit has given me new respect for its power.

I really like this idea because I love B-Wings, I love BB8, and I love Wedge. Kinda meh about HLC but only because I have bad luck.

The only thing that bothers me, is Lone Wolf. I really feel like that EPT is not worth two points. If it were me, I would give Wedge something else. Looking the list in (YA)SB, I can see there is room for a 3 point EPT on Wedge, why not go with Predator or even Opportunist? Seems like with BB8 Wedge stands a chance at dodging some arcs, and Predator makes him even more punchy.

I know LW gives Wedge some defense, but with a heavy weight ability like his I think you might as well swing for the fences.

Its a very fun list that covers most of the bases fairly well. Honestly wedge has been out performing poe for awhile and not just the above build but even the fully tooled poe. Ya poe lives longer but wedge/jake are usually more instrumental. If I keep messing with this I would want AT on jake and maybe even change out poe for.. something idk. Or swap AT to jake and go with ia on poe.

Your list sounds like a lot of fun too! Use Poe and ESPECIALLY Jake as bait. They are two ships you think you can hit, and then you just can't! Wedge should do well in this list.

I really like this idea because I love B-Wings, I love BB8, and I love Wedge. Kinda meh about HLC but only because I have bad luck.

The only thing that bothers me, is Lone Wolf. I really feel like that EPT is not worth two points. If it were me, I would give Wedge something else. Looking the list in (YA)SB, I can see there is room for a 3 point EPT on Wedge, why not go with Predator or even Opportunist? Seems like with BB8 Wedge stands a chance at dodging some arcs, and Predator makes him even more punchy.

I know LW gives Wedge some defense, but with a heavy weight ability like his I think you might as well swing for the fences.

LW has been a problem for me as well. Mainly because I like to fly in formations or tight groups. The idea of my list is to not do that. Chances are, my opponent will put down ships before I put down my Daggers. I then place my Daggers directly across from my opponent and Wedge away from the B-wings in a flanking position. This will get me my beyond R2 gap.

Or, if I end up placing my Bwings down first, I put them more to one side, but not on a corner. (or in a corner but facing toward my side's opposite corner) Then I decide where Wedge best fits to give him the space he needs.

I'm also betting that a good offense is better than a good defense (hence the PS 4 HLCs and Wedge over Poe). LW is still giving me offense and a little bit of defense as well. Being this is a 99 point build, if LW doesn't seem to be working out, Predator could replace LW for more offense.

Your list sounds like a lot of fun too! Use Poe and ESPECIALLY Jake as bait. They are two ships you think you can hit, and then you just can't! Wedge should do well in this list.

Thanks man. I do typically use poe as bait since he can take the punishment. Jake I will after he's expended his payload. I usually go full bore with him (5 green, BR/boost/obstructed) unless I think my opponent is on to me.. while wedge tends to slow roll initially, just depending. Crackshot wedge is horribly effective at pushing damage through on pretty much anything he looks at.

Wedge needs defense, as his damage is already on point.

Repositioning from BB-8, and Lone Wolf, look like an interesting combo on him. Certainly better than PTL + EU + R2, and cheaper to boot.

True enough, you can always set-up for LW. But, and even more so when Wedge is all BB8'ing all over the place, you will find that sometimes you just can't get away from your own ships, or you find yourself questioning whether to do a certain thing or move to get a reroll. I find it is very few and far between when I do not have to choose between a more favourable position/shot/action and getting the LW reroll. It doesn't happen very often that you get both, so I think in reality LW is really more of a passive defensive EPT rather than an aggressive one. You should be going for the better shot, the better move, not looking to get a reroll. Think of LW as insurance and you'll understand where I'm coming from. LW can also be a big help in the end game when you've lost a few ships, so there is that to consider as well, but with other less restrictive EPTs you can be effective in all stages of a match. Predator works just as good during round 5 as it did in round 1. I think that you should look at LW as a situational defensive EPT that you should take only if you can't afford a better re-roll.

Lol. You know, LW had been sticking in my craw for a long time. I didn't like that EPT but I didn't know just how to express why or for what reason, but I think I've summed it up here nicely. After having written that I think I understand how to use LW a bit better now too.

Wouldn't you be better off doing R3-A2 + Wired + IA?

You shoot first a lot, have the option to stress, and can use the stress for defense all for a measly 32 points. I'm not sure how it would actually play out with Wedge, but if I was on the other side of the table from it, it would concern me.

*pre-dial movement.

Wouldn't you be better off doing R3-A2 + Wired + IA?

You shoot first a lot, have the option to stress, and can use the stress for defense all for a measly 32 points. I'm not sure how it would actually play out with Wedge, but if I was on the other side of the table from it, it would concern me.

I find stressed X-wings (T-65s) to be VERY predictable. I want to keep Wedge's dial open. Yes, I need to use a green to use BB-8, but I don't HAVE to perform a green. I often find that BB-8 will lull my opponent into thinking I'll always perform a green move. This helps me to predict what my opponents next move will be and how I can get the upper hand.

Wouldn't you be better off doing R3-A2 + Wired + IA?

You shoot first a lot, have the option to stress, and can use the stress for defense all for a measly 32 points. I'm not sure how it would actually play out with Wedge, but if I was on the other side of the table from it, it would concern me.

I find stressed X-wings (T-65s) to be VERY predictable. I want to keep Wedge's dial open. Yes, I need to use a green to use BB-8, but I don't HAVE to perform a green. I often find that BB-8 will lull my opponent into thinking I'll always perform a green move. This helps me to predict what my opponents next move will be and how I can get the upper hand.

Sure, and conversely if it isn't a good time, you don't have to take the stress. It is optional. A lot of it comes down to personal preference. I personally would rather have an R2 for the 2 green turn than BB-8. A lot of that comes down to me personally not getting good results with Wedge + BB-8. I readily accept that may be due to my own deficiencies as a player. If you can make it work, roll on brother.

True enough, you can always set-up for LW. But, and even more so when Wedge is all BB8'ing all over the place, you will find that sometimes you just can't get away from your own ships, or you find yourself questioning whether to do a certain thing or move to get a reroll. I find it is very few and far between when I do not have to choose between a more favourable position/shot/action and getting the LW reroll. It doesn't happen very often that you get both, so I think in reality LW is really more of a passive defensive EPT rather than an aggressive one. You should be going for the better shot, the better move, not looking to get a reroll. Think of LW as insurance and you'll understand where I'm coming from. LW can also be a big help in the end game when you've lost a few ships, so there is that to consider as well, but with other less restrictive EPTs you can be effective in all stages of a match. Predator works just as good during round 5 as it did in round 1. I think that you should look at LW as a situational defensive EPT that you should take only if you can't afford a better re-roll.

Lol. You know, LW had been sticking in my craw for a long time. I didn't like that EPT but I didn't know just how to express why or for what reason, but I think I've summed it up here nicely. After having written that I think I understand how to use LW a bit better now too.

Exactly. LW is like ghetto autothrusters much of the time.

Exactly. LW is like ghetto autothrusters much of the time.

Thanks, Q!

The thing about pts and bb8 is that I have found you can use the Br to allow yourself to run into other ships to either stop being shot or to make sure you get your shots off if they are going for a block and you still get at least 1 offensive action.

Yes it's relatively predictable but what x wing isn't, I see wedge as more of a hammer and as so want him to do as much damage as quick as possible and TL and focus makes that happen. Ultimately it's unlikely wedge will live in most games as he has the biggest target painted on his back, the only real way to keep him alive longer is to either spend more points on him or use Biggs. And while hlc daggers are nasty the meta ATM is full of aces and bro.bots and tlt, all of which can either out manouver a b wing or tank some damage and would still probably see wedge as the bigger threat, basicly trying to keep him alive longer is hard to do unless you squad build to keep him alive.

Don't get me wrong I think LW is a great card on the right ships, if your thinking putting it on a x wing, from my experience Luke or Poe in the end game is just nasty with LW, and it's easier to get them there and have LW proc as they are tanks enough to be on there own so people will either try to engage them or leave them to last if you run them down a flank, the later is usually to there peril