Wave 10: We may need to start scraping.

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

I'd be interested to see FFG look at the lesser known ships that they've published in their Edge of the Empire books - there's certainly crossover appeal there, and a wealth of neat stuff. From Suns of Fortune alone, there's the following:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/A-type_Stiletto

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CL-1c_Lancet_interceptor

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_Attack_Fighter_Model_250

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/HLAF-500_starfighter (Pictured)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pocket_Patrol_Boat

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/PB-950_patrol_boat

G6LohPA.jpg

odapnbA.jpg

And that's ONLY the starfighters. And there's over a dozen other sourcebooks that are ripe with sleek, intriguing, and lore-rich ships. I mean, hello, synergy much?

Edited by Hrudgar

I'd be interested to see FFG look at the lesser known ships that they've published in their Edge of the Empire books - there's certainly crossover appeal there, and a wealth of neat stuff. From Suns of Fortune alone, there's the following:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/A-type_Stiletto

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CL-1c_Lancet_interceptor

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_Attack_Fighter_Model_250

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/HLAF-500_starfighter (Pictured)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pocket_Patrol_Boat

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/PB-950_patrol_boat

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And that's ONLY the starfighters. And there's over a dozen other sourcebooks that are ripe with sleek, intriguing, and lore-rich ships. I mean, hello, synergy much?

I like F-Zero and all, but please no.

Right, it does, but if the TIE/fo got a new model (and it did, it's not just a repainted TIE/ln) then OF COURSE the TIE/sf will get one.

Of course it will. And I'm about as excited for it as I was for the TIE/fo, and I'll probably buy as many of them as I bought TIE/fo expansions. (a grand total of none, because between the original Core Set, the Wave 1 expansion and the Gozanti I've already got all the standard TIE Fighters I need).

But here's the point: I'm not saying that FFG shouldn't produce the TIE/sf because I personally am not interested in buying one - that's riduclous, people want to see it in the game, it's an easy sell following the Force Awakens, of course they should produce it. I just won't buy it when they do.

Unfortunately, quite a few posters seem to want to approach things from the opposite direction - "I don't want {insert so-and-so ship here}, so FFG shouldn't produce it". Which is a pretty selfish attitude to take.

I don't think it's a case of people not wanting to see certain ships appear because they personally don't like them.

I think it's a case of certain ships simply not being economically viable and, in fact, may be harmful to the game. Most of the ships that are still waiting in the EU stables are going to be very hard sells, with only a small, cult following and no popular appeal. No one wants the game to get clogged with garbage.

I'd be interested to see FFG look at the lesser known ships that they've published in their Edge of the Empire books - there's certainly crossover appeal there, and a wealth of neat stuff. From Suns of Fortune alone, there's the following:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/A-type_Stiletto

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CL-1c_Lancet_interceptor

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_Attack_Fighter_Model_250

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/HLAF-500_starfighter (Pictured)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pocket_Patrol_Boat

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/PB-950_patrol_boat

G6LohPA.jpg

odapnbA.jpg

And that's ONLY the starfighters. And there's over a dozen other sourcebooks that are ripe with sleek, intriguing, and lore-rich ships. I mean, hello, synergy much?

Cool ship, Correction:Really cool ship. But that looks WAY to nice to be a star wars ship. ;)

Yeah the Y-Wing was pretty darn sexy too. Then they took off all those panels so they could fix them constantly. I bet those sexy ships would look just fine without their fancy panels.

I'd be interested to see FFG look at the lesser known ships that they've published in their Edge of the Empire books - there's certainly crossover appeal there, and a wealth of neat stuff. From Suns of Fortune alone, there's the following:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/A-type_Stiletto

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CL-1c_Lancet_interceptor

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_Attack_Fighter_Model_250

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/HLAF-500_starfighter (Pictured)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pocket_Patrol_Boat

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/PB-950_patrol_boat

G6LohPA.jpg

odapnbA.jpg

And that's ONLY the starfighters. And there's over a dozen other sourcebooks that are ripe with sleek, intriguing, and lore-rich ships. I mean, hello, synergy much

On second thought, this looks like somthing from Oblivion. (that Tom Cruise movie.)

Here's a gallery (not mine)

https://m.imgur.com/a/dlkyY

There are some really quite cool designs, a shame none were used in TFA.

I really like that L-wing. It could have been the Y-wing of TFA

Here's a gallery (not mine)

https://m.imgur.com/a/dlkyY

There are some really quite cool designs, a shame none were used in TFA.

I really like that L-wing. It could have been the Y-wing of TFA

Right on my Star Brah... the safe JJ ship list was the huge annoyance for me. We all knew Han was gonna die cause Harry wanted him to... but I was so hoping for glorious up to date BADASS BATTLES with the cool new updated versions of our most beloved OT ships.

Nopes... and that brings the whole film way down in my book.

:mellow: :huh: :angry:

I've seen a couple of people talk about not having ships filling the same role or doing the same thing because it would be too much and later coming back suggesting aces packs & repaint of ships that are already out... that confuses me to no end.

Having ships that fly the same but have a different model is bad and chokes the game out, but having ships that fly the same & have the EXACT SAME MODEL in a different color is a good thing?

...and before anyone says anything about putting fixes in the repaint packs, couldn't they do the same thing in the new ships? Personally, I'd rather buy a new hunk of plastic that represents a new ship than get my 13th X-Wing or 16th TIE fighter....

Ah someone gets it.

I totally agree.

I want more spaceship period!

Eh... maybe we ought to leave the Space Opera to the mainstream... Let's look to our video games and books for cool spaceships.

I mean, who doesn't want cool spaceships? It's a no brainer. But if the screaming masses want X-Wing T-94s and Tie /GOs then I guess we have to have those too. I love me an X-Wing T-65 and a Academy Pilot as much as the next fella, but I also love spaceships. If someone is making spaceships that fit into the Star Wars universe, then I say give em a **** job and let's play some X-WIng!

I've seen a couple of people talk about not having ships filling the same role or doing the same thing because it would be too much and later coming back suggesting aces packs & repaint of ships that are already out... that confuses me to no end.

Having ships that fly the same but have a different model is bad and chokes the game out, but having ships that fly the same & have the EXACT SAME MODEL in a different color is a good thing?

...and before anyone says anything about putting fixes in the repaint packs, couldn't they do the same thing in the new ships? Personally, I'd rather buy a new hunk of plastic that represents a new ship than get my 13th X-Wing or 16th TIE fighter....

Ah someone gets it.

I totally agree.

I want more spaceship period!

Several of us get it just fine. MAKE MORE SHIPS FFG...

:)

I don't think it's a case of people not wanting to see certain ships appear because they personally don't like them.

I think it's a case of certain ships simply not being economically viable and, in fact, may be harmful to the game. Most of the ships that are still waiting in the EU stables are going to be very hard sells, with only a small, cult following and no popular appeal. No one wants the game to get clogged with garbage.

:rolleyes:

Which is the great thing about SWG ships. At its peak, there were well over 300,000 subscriptions. The decimator drew me into this game because it was my favorite in SWG and i couldn't believe i was staring at it in the flesh. Adding the rest of that game's fleet will draw in many others the same way. Every ship is someone's favorite.

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There's heaps of ships they COULD release in the future. But most of them are extremely obscure, and don't have that instantly recognisable Star Wars appeal.I can guarantee that FFG doesn't want potential new players to walk into a store to witness a game in progress that doesn't feature any 'Star Wars' ships. It turns new players off

Where do you get that idea?

Im sure plenty of people come for the StarWars but I'm **** sure most stay for the well built, well balanced fun casual miniatures table top war game.

Really, this game is an easy sell to anyone interested in this hobby.

It has the easy to learn, hard to master thing down.

It's far FAR more affordable than most other games.

Right, it does, but if the TIE/fo got a new model (and it did, it's not just a repainted TIE/ln) then OF COURSE the TIE/sf will get one.

Of course it will. And I'm about as excited for it as I was for the TIE/fo, and I'll probably buy as many of them as I bought TIE/fo expansions. (a grand total of none, because between the original Core Set, the Wave 1 expansion and the Gozanti I've already got all the standard TIE Fighters I need).

But here's the point: I'm not saying that FFG shouldn't produce the TIE/sf because I personally am not interested in buying one - that's riduclous, people want to see it in the game, it's an easy sell following the Force Awakens, of course they should produce it. I just won't buy it when they do.

Unfortunately, quite a few posters seem to want to approach things from the opposite direction - "I don't want {insert so-and-so ship here}, so FFG shouldn't produce it". Which is a pretty selfish attitude to take.

I don't think it's a case of people not wanting to see certain ships appear because they personally don't like them.

I think it's a case of certain ships simply not being economically viable and, in fact, may be harmful to the game. Most of the ships that are still waiting in the EU stables are going to be very hard sells, with only a small, cult following and no popular appeal. No one wants the game to get clogged with garbage.

Well, I was never a huge fan of X-Wings or TIE Fighters, so when I saw the game a while back I was thinking "Meh... another Star Wars franchised game. Minis look cute tho..."

Last year, one of my friends tired to get me into the game. I went to the store again and saw IG-2000 and I was thinking "Cool - they are bringing back some old stuff!"

What sealed the deal for me was when the announced Mist Hunter and Punishing One. Had they not announced the big five bounty hunter ship, I WOULD NOT be playing X-Wing today. I had first seen them in the old Decipher CCG and still had a fondness for them.

The same apply to a SW EU reader (E-Wing, K-Wing) SW Galaxies player (Kihraxz, Decimator, Scyk), a SW Galactic Battlegrounds player (TIE Punisher), SW X-Wing player (TIE Defender). What is attractive to you may not be so much to others, what attracts them may be unattractive to you.

Every SW souce, no matter how weak the highly vocal portion of fans decry it, has their own fans. In fact, in most industries and hobbies, the most loudly vocal fans usually contribute to an extremely small portion of revenue (making business decisions based on what fans SAY is a sure way to break your bank). This is mainly due to the fact that most consumers are not that vocal - and when the product becomes shaped by the vocal minority, the silent majority if they don't like it, simply stop buying - effectively killing the product.

This is why big companies continue supporting personal reviews - even those that trash their products, but pay search engines for infographics and trends. Both serve different purposes.

Every ship is someone's favorite.

Right, but any ship selected for development and release can't just be SOMEONE's favourite, it needs to have popular appeal AND fit the Star Wars brand.

Im sure plenty of people come for the StarWars but I'm **** sure most stay for the well built, well balanced fun casual miniatures table top war game.

Really, this game is an easy sell to anyone interested in this hobby.

It has the easy to learn, hard to master thing down.

It's far FAR more affordable than most other games.

The game is a mess of misfired design ideas, and bandaids on top of bandaids. If it didn't have the Star Wars tag, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. Anyone who came for the Star Wars but stayed for the "well built, well balanced fun casual miniatures table top war game" doesn't have very high standards.

And cheaper?

It's cheaper than 40K, but most other games are either cheaper again or comparable in price. I just recently got two large warbands, plus the rule book for SAGA for like, $100. For comparison, that's like buying five of everything for two factions, and then buying at least one of everything else just to get access to the upgrades because in that one book, I have access to every rule and upgrade I could ever want, and my two warbands allow me to run nearly every combination of models I could want.

And that's just as an example.

Well, I was never a huge fan of X-Wings or TIE Fighters, so when I saw the game a while back I was thinking "Meh... another Star Wars franchised game. Minis look cute tho..."

Last year, one of my friends tired to get me into the game. I went to the store again and saw IG-2000 and I was thinking "Cool - they are bringing back some old stuff!"

What sealed the deal for me was when the announced Mist Hunter and Punishing One. Had they not announced the big five bounty hunter ship, I WOULD NOT be playing X-Wing today. I had first seen them in the old Decipher CCG and still had a fondness for them.

The same apply to a SW EU reader (E-Wing, K-Wing) SW Galaxies player (Kihraxz, Decimator, Scyk), a SW Galactic Battlegrounds player (TIE Punisher), SW X-Wing player (TIE Defender). What is attractive to you may not be so much to others, what attracts them may be unattractive to you.

Every SW souce, no matter how weak the highly vocal portion of fans decry it, has their own fans. In fact, in most industries and hobbies, the most loudly vocal fans usually contribute to an extremely small portion of revenue (making business decisions based on what fans SAY is a sure way to break your bank). This is mainly due to the fact that most consumers are not that vocal - and when the product becomes shaped by the vocal minority, the silent majority if they don't like it, simply stop buying - effectively killing the product.

This is why big companies continue supporting personal reviews - even those that trash their products, but pay search engines for infographics and trends. Both serve different purposes.

I get what you're saying, but my response is that I don't think you're a majority of FFGs potential demographic. Or rather, that people who are ONLY attracted by the EU ships are a significant number of people.

I think most people are attracted by the iconic ships, and some of the EU is there as well as a little spice. When the game becomes mostly EU, and the iconic ships of the original trilogy are no where to be seen (or require half a dozen purchases each to run efficiently, by the time you buy all the various patches and fixes) then interest will drop off.

I'd be interested to see FFG look at the lesser known ships that they've published in their Edge of the Empire books - there's certainly crossover appeal there, and a wealth of neat stuff. From Suns of Fortune alone, there's the following:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/A-type_Stiletto

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CL-1c_Lancet_interceptor

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_Attack_Fighter_Model_250

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/HLAF-500_starfighter (Pictured)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pocket_Patrol_Boat

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/PB-950_patrol_boat

G6LohPA.jpg

odapnbA.jpg

And that's ONLY the starfighters. And there's over a dozen other sourcebooks that are ripe with sleek, intriguing, and lore-rich ships. I mean, hello, synergy much?

Ew...

I mean.

It's friggin' beautiful...

But get that away from Star Wars!

I'd be interested to see FFG look at the lesser known ships that they've published in their Edge of the Empire books - there's certainly crossover appeal there, and a wealth of neat stuff. From Suns of Fortune alone, there's the following:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/A-type_Stiletto

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CL-1c_Lancet_interceptor

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_Attack_Fighter_Model_250

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/HLAF-500_starfighter (Pictured)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pocket_Patrol_Boat

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/PB-950_patrol_boat

G6LohPA.jpg

odapnbA.jpg

And that's ONLY the starfighters. And there's over a dozen other sourcebooks that are ripe with sleek, intriguing, and lore-rich ships. I mean, hello, synergy much?

Ew...

I mean.

It's friggin' beautiful...

But get that away from Star Wars!

But it looks strikingly familiar to Kihraxz Ryhkzyrk (**** my tongue hurts) and their medium brother

Yeah, that's about the size of it. Star Wars is beautifully ugly. The leaked X-wing from Rogue One is to me so bloody gorgeous because it's battered and used and dirty. The prequels had this visual problem precisely because they weren't.

At it's core, the most iconic ships from Star wars are ugly, weird looking designs (Falcon, X and Y wing), or plain and utilitarian (star destroyers, TIE Fighters).

Understand, that I love the falcon, and the X and especially Y-wing. But no-one called them pretty.

Every ship is someone's favorite.

Right, but any ship selected for development and release can't just be SOMEONE's favourite, it needs to have popular appeal AND fit the Star Wars brand.

Im sure plenty of people come for the StarWars but I'm **** sure most stay for the well built, well balanced fun casual miniatures table top war game.

Really, this game is an easy sell to anyone interested in this hobby.

It has the easy to learn, hard to master thing down.

It's far FAR more affordable than most other games.

The game is a mess of misfired design ideas, and bandaids on top of bandaids. If it didn't have the Star Wars tag, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. Anyone who came for the Star Wars but stayed for the "well built, well balanced fun casual miniatures table top war game" doesn't have very high standards.

And cheaper?

It's cheaper than 40K, but most other games are either cheaper again or comparable in price. I just recently got two large warbands, plus the rule book for SAGA for like, $100. For comparison, that's like buying five of everything for two factions, and then buying at least one of everything else just to get access to the upgrades because in that one book, I have access to every rule and upgrade I could ever want, and my two warbands allow me to run nearly every combination of models I could want.

And that's just as an example.

Well, I was never a huge fan of X-Wings or TIE Fighters, so when I saw the game a while back I was thinking "Meh... another Star Wars franchised game. Minis look cute tho..."

Last year, one of my friends tired to get me into the game. I went to the store again and saw IG-2000 and I was thinking "Cool - they are bringing back some old stuff!"

What sealed the deal for me was when the announced Mist Hunter and Punishing One. Had they not announced the big five bounty hunter ship, I WOULD NOT be playing X-Wing today. I had first seen them in the old Decipher CCG and still had a fondness for them.

The same apply to a SW EU reader (E-Wing, K-Wing) SW Galaxies player (Kihraxz, Decimator, Scyk), a SW Galactic Battlegrounds player (TIE Punisher), SW X-Wing player (TIE Defender). What is attractive to you may not be so much to others, what attracts them may be unattractive to you.

Every SW souce, no matter how weak the highly vocal portion of fans decry it, has their own fans. In fact, in most industries and hobbies, the most loudly vocal fans usually contribute to an extremely small portion of revenue (making business decisions based on what fans SAY is a sure way to break your bank). This is mainly due to the fact that most consumers are not that vocal - and when the product becomes shaped by the vocal minority, the silent majority if they don't like it, simply stop buying - effectively killing the product.

This is why big companies continue supporting personal reviews - even those that trash their products, but pay search engines for infographics and trends. Both serve different purposes.

I get what you're saying, but my response is that I don't think you're a majority of FFGs potential demographic. Or rather, that people who are ONLY attracted by the EU ships are a significant number of people.

I think most people are attracted by the iconic ships, and some of the EU is there as well as a little spice. When the game becomes mostly EU, and the iconic ships of the original trilogy are no where to be seen (or require half a dozen purchases each to run efficiently, by the time you buy all the various patches and fixes) then interest will drop off.

The time has come and gone that they CAN release the iconic ships. They don't have those left unless they delve into prequel ships (those have their own issues with other fans). Eventually every game becomes like this - when all iconics have been released and only rehashes of them get re-released.

On the other hand there is new material for SW always being released. Disney has one movie per year, Rebels is on-going, Marvel Comics have 2 on-going comics and a few one-shots per year, new novels are being releases every season.

The ST movies are going to produce new ships every 2 years, maybe 3-4 (historically each move introduced on an average of 3-4 starfighters per movie - this includes larger ships like the Firespray and YT-1300). These ships will receive heavy marketing as part of the merchandising push - very likely to be iconic.

I don't really expect many more ships from the OT era from movies. It just does not make sense logistically for the New Republic or Empire to maintain multiple lines starfighters. The Rebellion and Scum operate on a smaller scale, different rebel cells and criminal gangs might favor different ships - but they will never be "Iconic" (unless some scum faction featured in a movie favors X-Wings or TIEs - which has occured in the EU anyway).

The Rebels TV series while popular can hardly be considered mainstream as most fans consider it kiddy. Ships from here will be introduced - but if you think they are iconic, you should take a look at the forums when Wave 8 was first announced to see how much disappointment it caused.

The Aftermath era (novels) is likely to re-introduce a lot of EU stuff in (they already have). Again as these are novels and maybe comics, I don't see them becoming iconic.

The Iconic ships were all released by the 3rd Wave (In fact the HWK in Wave 3 isn't an Iconic by any means). This is probably how the game goes on until a revision - A, B, X, Y Wings and TIE fighter, bomber, advanced, interceptors get a revision every so often, while intro-ing new stuff from other EU or new source material. Maybe they will also update / re-release the YT-1300, Firespray and Shuttle - the 3 iconic big ships.

I'd be interested to see FFG look at the lesser known ships that they've published in their Edge of the Empire books - there's certainly crossover appeal there, and a wealth of neat stuff. From Suns of Fortune alone, there's the following:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/A-type_Stiletto

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CL-1c_Lancet_interceptor

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_Attack_Fighter_Model_250

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/HLAF-500_starfighter (Pictured)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pocket_Patrol_Boat

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/PB-950_patrol_boat

G6LohPA.jpg

odapnbA.jpg

And that's ONLY the starfighters. And there's over a dozen other sourcebooks that are ripe with sleek, intriguing, and lore-rich ships. I mean, hello, synergy much?

The main problem with these are they are primarily owned and operated by CorSec - how does that work? sub-faction of Empire like First Order?

The Nubians are a stat only ship (no pics so far). And isn't known who operates them.

Every ship is someone's favorite.

Right, but any ship selected for development and release can't just be SOMEONE's favourite, it needs to have popular appeal AND fit the Star Wars brand.

Im sure plenty of people come for the StarWars but I'm **** sure most stay for the well built, well balanced fun casual miniatures table top war game.

Really, this game is an easy sell to anyone interested in this hobby.

It has the easy to learn, hard to master thing down.

It's far FAR more affordable than most other games.

The game is a mess of misfired design ideas, and bandaids on top of bandaids. If it didn't have the Star Wars tag, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. Anyone who came for the Star Wars but stayed for the "well built, well balanced fun casual miniatures table top war game" doesn't have very high standards.

And cheaper?

It's cheaper than 40K, but most other games are either cheaper again or comparable in price. I just recently got two large warbands, plus the rule book for SAGA for like, $100. For comparison, that's like buying five of everything for two factions, and then buying at least one of everything else just to get access to the upgrades because in that one book, I have access to every rule and upgrade I could ever want, and my two warbands allow me to run nearly every combination of models I could want.

And that's just as an example.

Well, I was never a huge fan of X-Wings or TIE Fighters, so when I saw the game a while back I was thinking "Meh... another Star Wars franchised game. Minis look cute tho..."

Last year, one of my friends tired to get me into the game. I went to the store again and saw IG-2000 and I was thinking "Cool - they are bringing back some old stuff!"

What sealed the deal for me was when the announced Mist Hunter and Punishing One. Had they not announced the big five bounty hunter ship, I WOULD NOT be playing X-Wing today. I had first seen them in the old Decipher CCG and still had a fondness for them.

The same apply to a SW EU reader (E-Wing, K-Wing) SW Galaxies player (Kihraxz, Decimator, Scyk), a SW Galactic Battlegrounds player (TIE Punisher), SW X-Wing player (TIE Defender). What is attractive to you may not be so much to others, what attracts them may be unattractive to you.

Every SW souce, no matter how weak the highly vocal portion of fans decry it, has their own fans. In fact, in most industries and hobbies, the most loudly vocal fans usually contribute to an extremely small portion of revenue (making business decisions based on what fans SAY is a sure way to break your bank). This is mainly due to the fact that most consumers are not that vocal - and when the product becomes shaped by the vocal minority, the silent majority if they don't like it, simply stop buying - effectively killing the product.

This is why big companies continue supporting personal reviews - even those that trash their products, but pay search engines for infographics and trends. Both serve different purposes.

I get what you're saying, but my response is that I don't think you're a majority of FFGs potential demographic. Or rather, that people who are ONLY attracted by the EU ships are a significant number of people.

I think most people are attracted by the iconic ships, and some of the EU is there as well as a little spice. When the game becomes mostly EU, and the iconic ships of the original trilogy are no where to be seen (or require half a dozen purchases each to run efficiently, by the time you buy all the various patches and fixes) then interest will drop off.

The time has come and gone that they CAN release the iconic ships. They don't have those left unless they delve into prequel ships (those have their own issues with other fans). Eventually every game becomes like this - when all iconics have been released and only rehashes of them get re-released.

On the other hand there is new material for SW always being released. Disney has one movie per year, Rebels is on-going, Marvel Comics have 2 on-going comics and a few one-shots per year, new novels are being releases every season.

The ST movies are going to produce new ships every 2 years, maybe 3-4 (historically each move introduced on an average of 3-4 starfighters per movie - this includes larger ships like the Firespray and YT-1300). These ships will receive heavy marketing as part of the merchandising push - very likely to be iconic.

I don't really expect many more ships from the OT era from movies. It just does not make sense logistically for the New Republic or Empire to maintain multiple lines starfighters. The Rebellion and Scum operate on a smaller scale, different rebel cells and criminal gangs might favor different ships - but they will never be "Iconic" (unless some scum faction featured in a movie favors X-Wings or TIEs - which has occured in the EU anyway).

The Rebels TV series while popular can hardly be considered mainstream as most fans consider it kiddy. Ships from here will be introduced - but if you think they are iconic, you should take a look at the forums when Wave 8 was first announced to see how much disappointment it caused.

The Aftermath era (novels) is likely to re-introduce a lot of EU stuff in (they already have). Again as these are novels and maybe comics, I don't see them becoming iconic.

The Iconic ships were all released by the 3rd Wave (In fact the HWK in Wave 3 isn't an Iconic by any means). This is probably how the game goes on until a revision - A, B, X, Y Wings and TIE fighter, bomber, advanced, interceptors get a revision every so often, while intro-ing new stuff from other EU or new source material. Maybe they will also update / re-release the YT-1300, Firespray and Shuttle - the 3 iconic big ships.

I think you might be over-estimating the number of ships we will see in the new trilogy. Time will tell.

I just hope the releases are slowed down to acknowledge the scarcity of ships. I feel that long-term health of the game would require it.

I'm with 3-4 each release, the breakdown I'm estimating 3-4 ships on the Republic/Resistance side and 3-4 on the Imperial Remnant/First Order side, and maybe 2 Scum/Unaligned for the entire Trilogy.

I just hope the releases are NOT slowed down. The long term health of the game would require that.

That's when FFG gets to start making stuff up, like the TIE Offender!

Ha HA!

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