On reflection I'm not sure about the Palpatine connection. He was one ugly mf towards the end. Can't think of anyone who would willingly bed that beast.

Dude, look at the gorgeous women with ugly sports stars and ancient, decrepit celebrities. Power and wealth are *always* attractive to the right skank. And who was more powerful and wealthy than the greatest sith lord and the emperor of the galaxy ...

On reflection I'm not sure about the Palpatine connection. He was one ugly mf towards the end. Can't think of anyone who would willingly bed that beast.

Dude, look at the gorgeous women with ugly sports stars and ancient, decrepit celebrities.

And Anakin Skywalker.

On reflection I'm not sure about the Palpatine connection. He was one ugly mf towards the end. Can't think of anyone who would willingly bed that beast.

Dude, look at the gorgeous women with ugly sports stars and ancient, decrepit celebrities. Power and wealth are *always* attractive to the right skank. And who was more powerful and wealthy than the greatest sith lord and the emperor of the galaxy ...

It does happen; I live in Palm Beach, FL and I have stories...

So, I know the prevailing theory is that Rey is Luke's daughter, but having just come out of my third viewing I noticed something. Who does she most seem to share a fighting style with? That poking stabbing action she does with her lightsaber is very reminiscent of Palpatine!

I saw the poking and stabbing of someone more familiar with fighting with a staff than a sword who was desperate to get a hit in against a trained intimidating adversary. Besides, fighting styles are learned not inherited.

So, I know the prevailing theory is that Rey is Luke's daughter, but having just come out of my third viewing I noticed something. Who does she most seem to share a fighting style with? That poking stabbing action she does with her lightsaber is very reminiscent of Palpatine!

I am pretty sure she is Star Killers and Junos daughter. They both have the same kinda scenes were the rip away other peoples lightsabers. Also the guy that plays as Star Killer was in SW Ep 7, no one knows who he played as though.

Besides, fighting styles are learned not inherited.

In the Star Wars galaxy anything is possible.

Well, she's Kylo's cousin (thus Luke's daughter) if we believe the leak from the Disney Infinity 3.0 gameplay videos. It could be that he's saying "curses" from that barrel explosion.

What does this mean for X-Wing? I'm waiting for M.Falcon ships cards for Rey, a Finn crew card, and Rebel FO TIE s/f with Poe piloting. Get to it FFG!

Well, she's Kylo's cousin (thus Luke's daughter) if we believe the leak from the Disney Infinity 3.0 gameplay videos. It could be that he's saying "curses" from that barrel explosion.

What does this mean for X-Wing? I'm waiting for M.Falcon ships cards for Rey, a Finn crew card, and Rebel FO TIE s/f with Poe piloting. Get to it FFG!

hes saying curses dude. that theory is even stupider than genetic swordfighting.

Here is my theory: Rey is lukes daughter. Rey was trained as a jedi as a young padawan, and when Kylo went bonkers, Luke wiped her mind and stuck her on Jakku. That explains how she could fight, use mind tricks and other jedi powers. She is remembering her training.

This.... this is good.

Wow.. Just wow. Everytime i see these theories about Rey being Luke's daughter, I think "what a boring and lazy option that would be".

Here is how I see it: Rey is related to none of the legacy characters. There is a reason for this. First off, we see Han take a shining to her, and this is probably because she reminds him a bit if himself and, likely, the child he lost. Han is feeling a bit empty and Rey makes him feel like a parent. Losing a child, in this case a different type of loss, a more metaphysical one, is the toughest thing ever I've been told. Han ran away from the only thing that likely made him feel he belongs. Rey rekindles that feeling.

Maz's comment about knowing the truth: has nothing to do with some force induced memory block and everything to do with denial. Rey wants to believe that her family is coming back, and they didn't abandon her. The truth is she knows they aren't coming. Her family couldn't and didn't care. You know who does care? The young stormtrooper that just met her. Who Chewie tells her it was HIS idea. The idea that someone she just met would risk his life to come back for her whereas her family abandons her is a huge, and important, point.

All this leads to the concept of "family". That it doesn't have to be shared blood that makes family, only that the people care about each other. What I see happening is there will be an epic showdown somewhere and Luke or Leia will choose to save Rey over their blood relative. Not in a vengeful way, but because this abandoned scavenger girl becomes more family than Kylo Ren did in his other life.

Bonus review: Leia and Rey's Hug. No blood connection there, but an emotional one. Leia is likely very empathetic and perceptive. She probably knew how Han had a fatherly ferling towards Rey, and seeing her so upset about the loss of the man she herself loved, she does the motherly thing and consoles Rey, another symbolism moment of family directed to this abandoned child. Leia was also not as affected by Han's loss as she had already Lost him years earlier, and this girl helped bring back, symbolically anyways, the Man that Han had become - the father.

Yes, i believe it would be a more poignant and interesting way to explore the family themed story by one of acceptance and belonging.

I hadn't thought about it but you could be right. Just got back from my first viewing. It was like a private showing. Less than a dozen people.

On reflection I'm not sure about the Palpatine connection. He was one ugly mf towards the end. Can't think of anyone who would willingly bed that beast.

Miss Isard

I was thinking Luke's kid at first too, but I have a new theory. She is Han and Leia's other kid.

Wow.. Just wow. Everytime i see these theories about Rey being Luke's daughter, I think "what a boring and lazy option that would be".

Your opinion is incorrect.

Wow.. Just wow. Everytime i see these theories about Rey being Luke's daughter, I think "what a boring and lazy option that would be".

Here is how I see it: Rey is related to none of the legacy characters. There is a reason for this. First off, we see Han take a shining to her, and this is probably because she reminds him a bit if himself and, likely, the child he lost. Han is feeling a bit empty and Rey makes him feel like a parent. Losing a child, in this case a different type of loss, a more metaphysical one, is the toughest thing ever I've been told. Han ran away from the only thing that likely made him feel he belongs. Rey rekindles that feeling.

Maz's comment about knowing the truth: has nothing to do with some force induced memory block and everything to do with denial. Rey wants to believe that her family is coming back, and they didn't abandon her. The truth is she knows they aren't coming. Her family couldn't and didn't care. You know who does care? The young stormtrooper that just met her. Who Chewie tells her it was HIS idea. The idea that someone she just met would risk his life to come back for her whereas her family abandons her is a huge, and important, point.

All this leads to the concept of "family". That it doesn't have to be shared blood that makes family, only that the people care about each other. What I see happening is there will be an epic showdown somewhere and Luke or Leia will choose to save Rey over their blood relative. Not in a vengeful way, but because this abandoned scavenger girl becomes more family than Kylo Ren did in his other life.

Bonus review: Leia and Rey's Hug. No blood connection there, but an emotional one. Leia is likely very empathetic and perceptive. She probably knew how Han had a fatherly ferling towards Rey, and seeing her so upset about the loss of the man she herself loved, she does the motherly thing and consoles Rey, another symbolism moment of family directed to this abandoned child. Leia was also not as affected by Han's loss as she had already Lost him years earlier, and this girl helped bring back, symbolically anyways, the Man that Han had become - the father.

Yes, i believe it would be a more poignant and interesting way to explore the family themed story by one of acceptance and belonging.

exactly. you dont have to be blood to be family.

i really do hope its this, but honestly... my money is on her being related to obi wan. the legacy thing is the path of least resistance.

Here is my theory: Rey is lukes daughter. Rey was trained as a jedi as a young padawan, and when Kylo went bonkers, Luke wiped her mind and stuck her on Jakku. That explains how she could fight, use mind tricks and other jedi powers. She is remembering her training.

This.... this is good.

Kylo wimped out and dumped her. Hence why she was dumped with nobody in particular (even likely a sleaze ball) Hence her flashback in the rain where she was face to face with the Knights of Ren. That image in particular seemed like a memory of what happened, but with older Rey in place of younger Rey. Plus Kylo is the only one to demonstrate directly mucking in someone else's head (memory wipe). Hence Maz saying nobody was coming back for her.

I also had the thought that she might be of Palpatine lineage from his senator days and not his emperor days and was some sort of granddaughter, and we'd have the whole light to dark, dark to light thing. (I hope not for this because it just means we traded "I am your father" for "worse guy is your grandfather".

But I'm really hoping she is Obi Wan lineage, just for the Kenobi master teaches Skywalker pupil, then Skywalker master teaches Kenobi pupil. Plus obi wan is awesome. The only good character from the prequels and the best character from the Clone Wars.

Wow.. Just wow. Everytime i see these theories about Rey being Luke's daughter, I think "what a boring and lazy option that would be".

I am telling ya, she is the Daughter of Star Killer and Juno Eclipse. He may have left her on that planet because he was becoming to unstable and couldn't risk accidentally killing his daughter, and or he left to go deal with Snookie himself. I doubt he would have joined Skywalkers Jedi school and he probably just stayed as a powerful force user.

Like I said, the guy that played as Star Killer was in SW ep 7, but last I check no one is sure who or what he played as in this movie, and knowing JJ if he did play as Star Killer he was given a false credit to throw off anyone trying to figure out the plot for the new new trilogy.

But the Palpatine connection. He was one ugly mf towards the end. Can't think of anyone who would willingly bed that beast.

Dude, look at the gorgeous women with ugly sports stars and ancient, decrepit celebrities. Power and wealth are *always* attractive to the right skank. And who was more powerful and wealthy than the greatest sith lord and the emperor of the galaxy ...

Funny she didn't look Druish.

I kill me.

If she isn't Luke's daughter, how do you explain his light saber calling to her?

If she isn't Luke's daughter, how do you explain his light saber calling to her?

"shes the new chosen one"

"one of the half dozen force ghosts floating around did it"

"maz lied, tr-8r died"

"seriously please dont make her a skywalker thats like the most boring option god **** id rather find out shes one quarter calrissian if she has to be connected to the original trilogy"

ive got a crazy one....

what if shes NO ONES FAMILY. dun dun dun.

Being Luke's daughter is only boring and tired if its built as a surprise to hold our attention for any length of time in the next film. Kylo could be rather tired, but its not strung out for long in the film, but revealed early, rather nonchalantly, and used to build on the conflict throughout. Honestly, any secret lineage is going to be a bit played out at this point, so regardless of the answer, I'd say its best revealed rather quickly in the next film so that they can move on to more interesting things.

I like the theory that she's a Kenobi more.

The mind trick...I think we really only saw that used by Kenobi, at least used the most by him.

The symbolism of her giving luke that lightsaber...the same lightsaber that kenobi gave luke way back in A New Hope...

A lot of other subtle hints and connections too.

I hadn't thought about it but you could be right. Just got back from my first viewing. It was like a private showing. Less than a dozen people.

On reflection I'm not sure about the Palpatine connection. He was one ugly mf towards the end. Can't think of anyone who would willingly bed that beast.

"I will MAKE it consensual!"

If she isn't Luke's daughter, how do you explain his light saber calling to her?

Because the force is a living entity? We already have a canon example of a lightsaber calling to someone. Unless you ate trying to tell me thay Ezra Bridger is Kanan's long lost son?

She can't be. She doesn't have a third eye.