Yes but you also have to intentionally take damage to use it. Situationally it's excellent but if IG88B is on the table then FCS is normally going to be a better choice. I agree that it can be very good on them but you may need to build them out around that ability and forego some typical setups to get the most out of it.

Sure, but IG can take damage better than he can take stress, especially in the early game when there are still ships to kill and get regen out of.

You won't hear me say anything bad about FCS, I simply think that the Baffles are a more flexible choice. FCS is offensive only. Baffles gives you options, much the same way Advanced Sensors does.

Am I the only one who thinks that this "upgrade" is a completely utterly situational one

that takes up THE slot of awesome goodness?

Depends on the ship.

On a Lamb or an Aggressor, you can be reliably assured of at least one or two uses per game. Combat shuttles in particular are sure to make a comeback.

For Aggressors, you can do some truly amazing things that you wouldn't otherwise be able to do with this card (an S-loop or K-turn with a boost at the end of it creates some very interesting board positions). Aggressors don't like giving up HP, but if it's the choice between giving up HP or getting shot at, it's an easy choice. For Aggressors, it is also insurance against the worst kind of list you can see: a stress control list. I will happily take one stress and one damage to avoid being double stressed by R3-A2 (the putz).

I think the real kicker for it on the Lambda is that it's just so cheap. The Lambda can fake getting some maneuverability with an Engine Upgrade and/or Advanced Sensors. Those are 3 and 4 points, respectively. The eBaffles give you a lot of the advantages of both of those upgrades for a single point (and some hit points). It allows you to retain the Lambda's absurdly good jousting efficiency, and gives you some maneuver tricks on top of it all.

The great thing about putting it on the Lambda is that when your opponent decides to focus on other elements of your squad, all of those hit points aren't doing much for you. You might as well use them to keep pressure on your opponent.

Can't really say I still believe in lambda "Space cow list"

It's like BBBB, a great memory from the past, murdered by Whisper, defiled by ace-lists and completely obliterated with the creation of TLT

*hopes to the printed God that one day dogfight will be 120 points, where tons of tokens don't win games and regening 1 shield per turn isn't enough to win the game without thinking

The Lambda has 10 hit points, which means it has to be attacked at least five times by TLT carriers before it goes down (likely more, as you'll occasionally see three red blanks/eyeballs, or a single hit against a single evade). No list can bring more than four TLTs, and if they do that we're talking PS2 Y-Wings. Basically, the entire list is spending something like 75% of its firepower over two turns to bring down a 21 point target that gets to fire back with a three dice primary in both of those turns.

The Lambda really does not care about TLTs.

Somebody pointed it out on the first page, but just in case anybody skipped it, I think it's worth repeating that the PS4 Lambda Shuttle (Captain Yorr) will be a 25pt anti-stresshog!

Your action dependent aces like Soontir and Vader will no longer need to live in mortal fear of Miranda and the Stresshog! Even in the absence of such ships, it gives your aces the ability to fly through debris or pull K-Turns with near impunity! The mere existence of this tool has the potential to change the meta in a huge way, by stopping stress based lists in the development stages.

Captain Yorr, long ignored, may become one of the most important pilots of Wave 8!

I know! It is, well, baffling that Yorr might actually become a cheap hard counter to stress control. Really looking forward to see how this'll turn out.

Captain Yorr, long ignored, may become one of the most important pilots of Wave 8!

Yes and no. Range 2 is a mighty short leash to keep your highly maneuverable aces on.

I'm all for baffle. nice upgrade on the lambda, useful I think on the punisher.

extra nice on "Yarrrr!" er.. Yorr.

oh, and let's call it "waffle", because who can resist those..?

noone can resist tastyness of that magnitude!

Electronic Waffle sounds like something C3PO would eat.

Captain Yorr, long ignored, may become one of the most important pilots of Wave 8!

Yes and no. Range 2 is a mighty short leash to keep your highly maneuverable aces on.

What about just barrel roll range of R2? That's a pretty good amount of slack. I'd rather lose one action to barrel roll closer to the Shuttle than lose all actions the following turn, when I'm sitting on a tall stack of stress.

What about just barrel roll range of R2? That's a pretty good amount of slack. I'd rather lose one action to barrel roll closer to the Shuttle than lose all actions the following turn, when I'm sitting on a tall stack of stress.

Don't misunderstand my comment as criticism. I'm a big fan of Yorr. My point is simply that his ability has a limited range you have to keep in mind when maneuvering. To some extent, it reduces your list to jousting in the early going, at least until you can remove some of your opponent's stress generation from the board (or all, if it's just been splashed in as a single Stresshog).

I'm all for baffle. nice upgrade on the lambda, useful I think on the punisher.

extra nice on "Yarrrr!" er.. Yorr.

oh, and let's call it "waffle", because who can resist those..? noone can resist tastyness of that magnitude!

WokeUpDead has tabled the motion;

Electronic Baffle henceforth to be known as "Electronic Waffle".

Motion seconded.

All in favour?

Captain Yorr, long ignored, may become one of the most important pilots of Wave 8!

Yes and no. Range 2 is a mighty short leash to keep your highly maneuverable aces on.

With a maneuverable ace, the bots and Tacticians are mostly a problem on the initial approach. Once you're clear of Yorr Fel should be behind that Y anyway.

With a maneuverable ace, the bots and Tacticians are mostly a problem on the initial approach. Once you're clear of Yorr Fel should be behind that Y anyway.

True. You can simply use him to shepherd his charges across the Rubicon, as it were. Once Fel and/or Vader (or whoever) are in behind the Y's, they should be good to go for a while.

I really like the baffle; it gives you options in a situation where previously you were powerless against the schemes of your opponent.

I'm all for baffle. nice upgrade on the lambda, useful I think on the punisher.

extra nice on "Yarrrr!" er.. Yorr.

oh, and let's call it "waffle", because who can resist those..? noone can resist tastyness of that magnitude!

WokeUpDead has tabled the motion;

Electronic Baffle henceforth to be known as "Electronic Waffle".

Motion seconded.

All in favour?

Tabled = Put off for another meeting.

​However, I wish to amend the motion, adding a corollary:

"The eventual cheap Electronic Baffle + Deadman's Switch build = Pop Tart."

Captain Yorr, long ignored, may become one of the most important pilots of Wave 8!

Yes and no. Range 2 is a mighty short leash to keep your highly maneuverable aces on.

Range 2 isn't ideal but it's better than Jendon's range 1.

Tabled = Put off for another meeting

Only in the US, I'm afraid. Everywhere else in the English-speaking world it means the opposite.

And I ain't American.

Tabled = Put off for another meeting

Only in the US, I'm afraid. Everywhere else in the English-speaking world it means the opposite.

And I ain't American.

...Can I just say I hate Daniel Webster?

Tabled = Put off for another meeting

Only in the US, I'm afraid. Everywhere else in the English-speaking world it means the opposite.

And I ain't American.

I am.

eBaffle it is!

I love the addition to the shuttle, that is pretty clear.I also think it might be a decent Keyan Farlander insurance policy. Getting a stress on him and not coming up with a shot can totally take him out of the fight. I'd take a damage if I missed on a guess and needed options for next turn.

Unfortunately the baffle can only discard the stress when it is received, so that only works if you know immediately that you don't have a shot. A better solution to that problem, imo, is E/2 + Hera Syndulla.

I love the addition to the shuttle, that is pretty clear.I also think it might be a decent Keyan Farlander insurance policy. Getting a stress on him and not coming up with a shot can totally take him out of the fight. I'd take a damage if I missed on a guess and needed options for next turn.

Unfortunately the baffle can only discard the stress when it is received, so that only works if you know immediately that you don't have a shot. A better solution to that problem, imo, is E/2 + Hera Syndulla.

E2 and Hera is a better solution. That is why it costs more and takes 2 slots. But even it has the downside that you'll likely not take any other action option for a long while, if ever.

I'm not in love with baffle on Keyan or anything, but it's an ok insurance option.

Seems obvious this goes on the Lambda. All that hp is useless if the ship can't point at the enemy after turn 2, this card let's you trade some excess hp for much needed turning power.

I'm all for baffle. nice upgrade on the lambda, useful I think on the punisher.

extra nice on "Yarrrr!" er.. Yorr.

oh, and let's call it "waffle", because who can resist those..?

noone can resist tastyness of that magnitude!

Zuckuss + Title + 4-Lom + Electronic Waffle + Dead Mans Switch + PTL = The Gand Slam.

The Gand Slam is a very tasty option on many breakfast menus, coming soon to a kitchen table near you!

Also available in gluten free! (sans Title...)

Tabled = Put off for another meeting

Only in the US, I'm afraid. Everywhere else in the English-speaking world it means the opposite.

And I ain't American.

I am.

eBaffle it is!

you misspelled 'MURRICA

Feel teh freedom in your hair

taste the freedom in your mouth

smell the waffles being baked

hell yeah ™

and so, the waffle-wars started..