Are there plans to do a Star Wars RPG set during the Knights of the Old Republic? I'd like to see the personalities, worlds, starships, and everything else KOTOR, done up in the FFG ruleset. 
Knights of the Old Republic?
Never say never, but I wouldn't hold my breath either.
FFG has set the game system in the classic trilogy era. (Exactly why can be debated as there's plenty of good reasons) In some cases we'll see a little bleed over in the form of old items, advanced prototypes, or just items commonly associated with different time periods dropped in with little explanation.
To date though, FFG hasn't dropped any hints toward the release of setting guides that outline a specific era...
This might change now that TFA is out, and there's going to be demand for a setting guide for that era, but that one is also going to be restricted to what LFL/Dis is willing to give FFG. The question is: Will FFG make/be allowed to make a setting guide for TFA, and if so will it be successful enough to justify other setting guides, and if so, will LFL/Dis allow them to make a setting guide covering the era you want?
We could try to sort out the stats and adapt it to this. I've got a campaign going where my PC's have to prevent the reconstruction of the Star Forge by a rouge Imperial Inquisitor, so, this would be good.
To be honest even if there is going to be setting books. I don't see us getting a TFA one any time soon.
as for KOTOR since its legendary I would say FFG will skate around that one. (a ship here a weapon there)
Mouse House is pretty much focusing everything related to the franchise on the Age of Rebellion and the Dark Times along with the period just after the 2nd Death Star, I doubt we'll see anything set outside that time period any time soon. Once we have all 3 movies from the new trilogy we'll probably get a setting book for that time period.
I think for the time being, this would need to be a fan-supplement or home-brew... it's going to be 5+ years before we get any PnP RPG materials set in KOTOR/SWTOR era.
In a way, it's a shame that the official "present day" setting (movies, TCW, Rebels, etc) has the Sith reduced to a tiny cult of personality surrounding one person at a time, with one apprentice and then some unknown number of relatively minor disciples. The old era when there was room in the stories for more types of Sith beyond the cackling megalomaniac, the would-be cackling megalomaniac waiting to backstab him/her, and their cadre of pathetic sycophants.
Then again, SWTOR keeps recycling the Sith Emperor in his "many guises"... to the point that he's become "Vitiate Sue".
Edited by MaxKilljoyHonestly what I would do is simply use the mechanics already provided and just reskin them. That's not a YT-1300, that's the Ebon Hawk. Give a Magnaguard a blaster rifle and you've got an HK droid. So on and so forth.
If you search the forums you can find various threads where people do their own modifying of the rules but overall I find it highly unlikely that they'll venture off into a KotoR book. They would have designed things differently if that had been their plan.
Edited by KaelYeah, an official KOTOR era book is highly unlikely.
As was noted earlier, it's a purely Legends setting, and there's not telling if Disney's going to decide to go back and do something in or around that time-frame that completely invalidates both the KOTOR games and the MMO in one fell swoop. Given that SW:Rebels has already changed things by having the A-Wing and B-Wing fighters be around before there really is a proper Rebel Alliance is a prime example of that.
While the core design team were all Star Wars fans, the impressions I got from talking with several of them was that it was the original trilogy that best exemplified what Star Wars was for them, and thus the era that they should build the game around to offer what many might well describe as the "classic" Star Wars experience, that of scrappy heroes fighting against a corrupt and ever-present evil empire, be that fight to obtain freedom for the galaxy or simply to be able to survive on their own terms.
My guess is that FFG is going to "hedge their bets" for a little while longer, and stick with the Original Trilogy era since that's the one that most people are the most familiar with, and that it's fairly stable in terms of what's out there for lore at this point. KOTOR era offers none of that, especially with the MMO still running and introducing new story content.
Just to cite an interesting thread on a similar topic:
SW: Rebels is apparently going to have an episode with a ship extremely similar to the hammerhead cruiser.
That said, I do think one of the strengths of this system is how generic so many of the item stats are (really I'd say its more a weakness of the splatbooks that we now have so many specifically designated items). Blasters are generally blasters, etc. Besides the starting point for characters, porting the setting around really isn't that hard.
My group is using an XS transport and we were talking about how technology hasn't changed that much in star wars regardless of timelines. Hyperdrive speeds and lightsabers not needing battery backpacks is one of the few advancements, but not like Star Trek where the look of weapons, armor, and vehicles change much. Maybe play in a star wars timelines where ships are being pulled by some space animal...and called a star wagon
My guess is that FFG is going to "hedge their bets" for a little while longer, and stick with the Original Trilogy era since that's the one that most people are the most familiar with, and that it's fairly stable in terms of what's out there for lore at this point. KOTOR era offers none of that, especially with the MMO still running and introducing new story content.
Also I've read that Disney has made a hard push to flood the market with original trilogy material to help the public "forget" the prequels (and how bad they were) in the lead up to TFA release. You know, focus on the good to help build hype instead of apprehension... Not sure how true it is, but it would seem to match up, and certainly explains things like the cancellation of CW over Rebels.
So it does make you wonder if Dis considers KOTORs themes and images to be too prequelesque... Granted KOTOR is good enough you could put it right on the pile with the OT and TFA, but since not everyone knows KOTOR, I could see how Dis might think it's cover art would be more likely to remind a more casual fan of a Prequel...
One could EASILY redo the art, and keep the actual meat.
It is a shame and is the main thing I do NOT like about FFG's Star Wars effort. The galaxy is a huge place and there are literally thousands of years of timeline we could explore. It is a shame to shrink the Star Wars galaxy into such a small epoch. I vastly prefer the approach WotC's Star Wars Saga Edition took where there were setting books for different eras and the rules themselves were setting neutral. I soooo wish FFG would have done the same.
Also, missing the boat on The Force Awakens era in a timely fashion is a HUGE opportunity lost both from a fan perspective and a marketing one.
Edited by daddystabzI'm Guaranteed FFG is not allowed to do anything with Force Awakens yet.
Also, missing the boat on The Force Awakens era in a timely fashion is a HUGE opportunity lost both from a fan perspective and a marketing one.
FFG has stated that they do not get advance notice from Disney about the movie plot. So there was no way for them to produce a TFA rpg product tie in. They didn't miss the boat. They were never invited on the cruise.
I am saying now is the time to rush something to supplement the movie...even if it doesn't come out before episode 8! I was at Gen Con when Edge of the Empire was first announced and heard all the details of the license at the convention. I'm sure something could be done now.
I am saying now is the time to rush something to supplement the movie...even if it doesn't come out before episode 8! I was at Gen Con when Edge of the Empire was first announced and heard all the details of the license at the convention. I'm sure something could be done now.
So you want a shoddy product tie in? Because that's what you're asking for. I prefer quality over pushing out bad product. You do realize the turn around on making product right? It takes roughly a year, give or take, from start to finish to put out a real book. So if you want something right right right now ....... then basically you're just wanting them to toss something out at us, slapping a $40 price sticker on it and calling it a day.
I don't need them to produce a TFA product right now. I need them to continue their strong production values and make sure that every thing they put out with Star Wars on it is something that I actually want to buy, as opposed to some shoddy book put out to cash in on TFA.
I'm Guaranteed FFG is not allowed to do anything with Force Awakens yet.
Such as the new base set for X-wing that features TFA ships? I feel pretty confident that Episodes 7-9 will generate at least one book for the RPG set.
I'm Guaranteed FFG is not allowed to do anything with Force Awakens yet.
Such as the new base set for X-wing that features TFA ships? I feel pretty confident that Episodes 7-9 will generate at least one book for the RPG set.
I think Donovan's speculation on the matter is likely the most accurate, in that if we saw anything related to the new movies it wouldn't be until they did a 2nd Edition and used the new movies as the back drop for a new edition. But at present, most of the material produced for all 3 lines hasn't even reached Return of the Jedi. So if after this long (from the start of EotE) till now we are barely just now getting to Hoth (via Strongholds of Resistance) I'm not expecting them to suddenly put out a NT book.
Kael, you're right. I don't expect anything NT anytime soon, just eventually.
KotOR, TOR, will never see the light of day as any kind of official dedicated book. FFG may borrow from them but will not be doing any books focused on them. And, as was already noted, they were as much in the dark as we were about the new movie. I would rather they focus their energy on continuing the very good products they are already doing rather than dropping everything to rush out a product to satisfy what basically amounts to a micro-drop of the fandom. They are much better putting out products as they have that have a broad appeal. Every book generally has something for everyone in one way or another and i can appreciate the difficulty, time, and care that goes into producing such products. I think that if people here want something for KotOR or TOR then they are best creating a fan product like those enterprising gentlemen (and ladies if involved) did with the Rebels sourcebook.
One thing I will point out is even if they did one they likely will not do the personalities. FFG has chosen to only stat a personality twice. Vaders stats were " if he catches you you are dead" and Landos said they were only the abilities relevant to the scenario.
I think for everyone who is more interested in the old republic era should ask the mods for a dedicated thread so ppl can submit their own brews for ships, planets, Npc's and so forth. Together we can build our own unnoficiall Old republic setting for other players and GM;s to use as a resource for their games.
I'm currently running a F&D campaign which is the Kotor story line and my players are loving it.
One thing to keep in mind in the TOR setting -- the treatment of the Force is somewhat different, with the light/dark thing being a lot more... fuzzy. There are some questionable and even a few despicable "light siders", and some "dark siders" who are not irrational, or juvenile, or cackling half-mad megalomaniacs.
Edited by MaxKilljoy