My only regret is that I have but one "like" to give Muon's bomb list.
2016 Store Championship Results
Face 2 Face Games, Toronto, ON
Feb. 27
24 players, 4 rounds Swiss, Top 4 cut
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Winner: Michael
100pts
Serissu + Squad Leader
Kavil + Opportunist + Blaster Turret + R4 Agromech
Palob + Bodyguard + Blaster Turret + Recon Specialist + Moldy Crow
Binayre Pirate
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Yes, you are not seeing things...an M3-a, Blaster Turrets, and these 3 epts, Squad Leader, Bodyguard, and Opportunist, beat IG and TLTs, and Rebel-regen to take the cake. Well flown Michael!
It's seeing things like this that make me believe that not all "viable" or "competitive" squads have been attempted by the world's leading X-wing players. People always say things like, "Well, if it was a decent list, we would've seen it win tournaments by now". This is clearly an example to prove otherwise. All of these ships have been out for a while now and someone wins with it. I'm sure there are other surprise lists out there that can win that would be dismissed by the majority of X-wing players.
I'd like to think that this guy simply showed his list to his opponents, who marveled at its anti-meta beauty and conceded on the spot.
I mean, dear god. Spending 4-points to put a self-stress EPT on a Y-Wing? And that Y-Wing doesn't even have an Unhinged Astromech? I can hear the clanging of brass balls from here.
Face 2 Face Games, Toronto, ON
Feb. 27
24 players, 4 rounds Swiss, Top 4 cut
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Winner: Michael
100pts
Serissu + Squad Leader
Kavil + Opportunist + Blaster Turret + R4 Agromech
Palob + Bodyguard + Blaster Turret + Recon Specialist + Moldy Crow
Binayre Pirate
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Yes, you are not seeing things...an M3-a, Blaster Turrets, and these 3 epts, Squad Leader, Bodyguard, and Opportunist, beat IG and TLTs, and Rebel-regen to take the cake. Well flown Michael!
It's seeing things like this that make me believe that not all "viable" or "competitive" squads have been attempted by the world's leading X-wing players. People always say things like, "Well, if it was a decent list, we would've seen it win tournaments by now". This is clearly an example to prove otherwise. All of these ships have been out for a while now and someone wins with it. I'm sure there are other surprise lists out there that can win that would be dismissed by the majority of X-wing players.
I'd like to think that this guy simply showed his list to his opponents, who marveled at its anti-meta beauty and conceded on the spot.
I mean, dear god. Spending 4-points to put a self-stress EPT on a Y-Wing? And that Y-Wing doesn't even have an Unhinged Astromech? I can hear the clanging of brass balls from here.
And add to that that it is equiped with a turret that also need an action, so it has to clear its stress or he won't use his turret next turn. But that's also potentially a 5 dice turret so played correctly, it can brings a lot of hurt.
Atomic Empire Store Championships
Durham, NC
2/27/16 - 36 players, 5 rounds of Swiss, Top 4
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1. Justin G. (Champion, #2 Swiss)
Wampa
Omicron Group Pilot + Emperor Palpatine
Zeta Leader + Veteran Instincts + Stealth Device + Comm Relay
Omega Leader + Juke + Stealth Device + Comm Relay
(99)
2. Chris A. (#1 Swiss, #2 Championship)
Black Squadron Pilot + Crack Shot
Black Squadron Pilot + Crack Shot
Black Squadron Pilot + Crack Shot
Howlrunner + Crack Shot
Darth Vader + Veteran Instincts + Engine Upgrade + Advanced Targeting Computer + TIE/x1
(99)
3. Robert R.
IG-88D + Wired + Heavy Laser Cannon + IG-2000 + Sensor Jammer + Autothrusters
IG-88B + Wired + Heavy Laser Cannon + IG-2000 + Sensor Jammer + Autothrusters
(100)
4. Ben K.
Omega Leader + Juke + Comm Relay
Captain Yorr + Emperor Palpatine
Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device + Fire-Control System + Agent Kallus
(99)
5. David S.
Poe Dameron + Veteran Instincts + R2-D2 + Autothrusters
Gold Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + R3-A2 + BTL-A4 Y-Wing
Gold Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret
Bandit Squadron Pilot
(100)
6. Blaine M.
Blue Squadron Pilot
Blue Squadron Pilot
Blue Squadron Pilot
Blue Squadron Pilot
Bandit Squadron Pilot
(100)
7. Jonathan P.
Whisper + Agent Kallus + Sensor Jammer + Advanced Cloaking Device + Veteran Instincts
Zeta Leader + Veteran Instincts + Stealth Device + Comm Relay
Omega Leader + Juke + Stealth Device + Comm Relay
(99)
8. Josh B.
Poe Dameron + R5-P9 + Autothrusters + Veteran Instincts
Ello Asty + R2-D2 + Autothrusters + Veteran Instincts
Blue Squadron Novice + R2 Astromech + Integrated Astromech
(99)
Let's just preface the list juggler data by saying there were 14 bombs on the final table, 10 of them mine...
Winner (1st in swiss, me):
Warden Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Seismic Charges + Ion Bombs
Warden Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Seismic Charges + Ion Bombs
Gold Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Bomb Loadout + Seismic Charges + R3-A2
(100)
runner-up (3rd in swiss):
Miranda Doni + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Advanced SLAM + Conner Net + Proton Bombs + C-3PO
Esege Tuketu + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Advanced SLAM + Conner Net + Proton Bombs + Tactician
(100)
I count 18 possible bombs on the top table =D
EDIT: I suppose 14 if you are counting the CNets as mines....
Really cool to see this =)
Edited by Hida77I love how a lot of SC are either loaded with Empire or Rebels in the Top 4 slots.
I love how a lot of SC are either loaded with Empire or Rebels in the Top 4 slots.
Mine had IG's at finals and a Xizor Miniswarm top 8 (didnt face it, so i dont know the list so i dont have it on there)
side note, turns out IG's with crackshot FCS and Stim are weak to Omega Leader.
Edit: i was told that the matches i played on stream will be up 'mid-week' in my first livestreamed anything ever there is a moment (among many) that will forever be in my head. Omega Leader 1 shotting a TLT HWK.... The stream was up in the store and after it happened everyone made such a ruckus i felt the store shake.
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Face 2 Face Games, Toronto, ON
Feb. 27
24 players, 4 rounds Swiss, Top 4 cut
_______
Winner: Michael
100pts
Serissu + Squad Leader
Kavil + Opportunist + Blaster Turret + R4 Agromech
Palob + Bodyguard + Blaster Turret + Recon Specialist + Moldy Crow
Binayre Pirate
______
Yes, you are not seeing things...an M3-a, Blaster Turrets, and these 3 epts, Squad Leader, Bodyguard, and Opportunist, beat IG and TLTs, and Rebel-regen to take the cake. Well flown Michael!
It's seeing things like this that make me believe that not all "viable" or "competitive" squads have been attempted by the world's leading X-wing players. People always say things like, "Well, if it was a decent list, we would've seen it win tournaments by now". This is clearly an example to prove otherwise. All of these ships have been out for a while now and someone wins with it. I'm sure there are other surprise lists out there that can win that would be dismissed by the majority of X-wing players.
I'd like to think that this guy simply showed his list to his opponents, who marveled at its anti-meta beauty and conceded on the spot.
I mean, dear god. Spending 4-points to put a self-stress EPT on a Y-Wing? And that Y-Wing doesn't even have an Unhinged Astromech? I can hear the clanging of brass balls from here.
And add to that that it is equiped with a turret that also need an action, so it has to clear its stress or he won't use his turret next turn. But that's also potentially a 5 dice turret so played correctly, it can brings a lot of hurt.
Remember he has Serissu with Squad Leader to help with that. So even if Kavil bumps doing a green move, Serissu can potentially give him his focus action.
I love how a lot of SC are either loaded with Empire or Rebels in the Top 4 slots.
Top 4: Scum, rebel
Top 2: Imperial
I went to a 17 person Store Championship in Mt Airy NC.
1st Place was Vader w/ VI, Title, ATC, Engine; Turr Phenir w/ PtL, Autothrusters, Targeting Computer; and Yorr w/ Palpatine.
(He told me this was built to help against stress control lists, Turr and Vader can pass some of their stress to the shuttle. There were no stress lists at this tourney though.)
2nd Place was Bro-Bots: IG88-B w/ Predator, Mangler, Advanced Sensors, Autothrusters, Inertial Damps; IG88-D, w/ Predator, HLC, Adv. Sensors, Autothrusters
The other two in top four were:
Han Solo w/ Predator, Gunner, C3-P0, Engine, Title and 3 Bandits
Carnor Jax w/ VI, Title, Stealth Device, Autothrusters; Whisper w/ VI, ACD, FCS, Agent Kallus, and Omega Leader w/ Juke, Comm Relay. (My list and my best finish yet so I'm very happy.)
I love how a lot of SC are either loaded with Empire or Rebels in the Top 4 slots.
With Jumpmaster and Misthunter on the horizon, who wants to play Scum in Wave 7? Wave 8 just brings so many more interesting AND powerful goodies. Might as well not even explore that design space right now, is my feeling. All those new crew options have the power to turn average lists into above-average, even by just including something simple like 4LOM crew, etc.
I went to a 17 person Store Championship in Mt Airy NC.
I was thinking of going to that one, but family called.
Store Championship results for The Complex in Scarborough, Maine - Saturday 2/27
19 players - 4 rounds of Swiss, cut to Top 4, 75 min rounds
Winner - Larry B (3-1 Swiss, 3rd seed)
4x Syndicate Thug w/ TLT, Unhinged Astromech
2nd - Matt C (Me) (3-1 Swiss, 4th seed)
2x Syndicate Thug w/ TLT, R4 Agromech
4x Binayre Pirate
3rd - Chris B (4-0 Swiss, 1st seed)
Omicron Group Pilot w/ Palpatine
Darth Vader w/ Veteran Instincts, x1 Title, Advanced Targeting Computer
Omega Leader w/ Juke, Comm Relay
Wampa
4th - Chris M (3-0 Swiss, 2nd seed)
Rear Admiral Chirneau w/ Predator, Ysanne, Rebel Captive, Gunner, Engine
Soontir Fel w/ PTL, Stealth, Autothrusters
Larry and I managed to kill each-other's final ship (both at 1 health) with simultaneous fire, ending the match in a draw. I had deferred initiative to him, so he won by the tie breaker rules. Woops. Crazy end to an intense day of X-Wing, I had a blast and was super happy with how many new faces showed up (and how well even some of our newest players performed). This game is really growing fast, even out here in the Outer Rim
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*note: I'm seeing if I can get the full results to post to list Juggler from our TO, I'll fill in the missing details here if I do
Edit: Full results are now up on List Juggler:
http://lists.starwarsclubhouse.com/get_tourney_details?tourney_id=1293
Edited by Transmogrifier
So this is all great thanks. I went to the website, but couldn't do what I really wanted.
I wanted to see in SC's this year so far, how many lists had 4 TLT's in the top 8, and how many won them with 4 TLT's.
Is this possible? I don't care about how many points are spent on each, I just want a simple count of 4 TLT lists in the SC 2016, that won and finished in top 8? Would also be nice to see these number of SC's so far, so we could glean some stats for 4 TLT usage from them too.
Thanks,
Edited by eagletsi1112nd - Thomas R. (4-0 Swiss, 1st seed)
Cartel Marauder x5
3rd - Clayton H. (3-1 Swiss, 2nd seed)
I love how a lot of SC are either loaded with Empire or Rebels in the Top 4 slots.
With Jumpmaster and Misthunter on the horizon, who wants to play Scum in Wave 7? Wave 8 just brings so many more interesting AND powerful goodies. Might as well not even explore that design space right now, is my feeling. All those new crew options have the power to turn average lists into above-average, even by just including something simple like 4LOM crew, etc.
Dual IG 88s are currently dominating in the Minneapolis/St Paul area. We've had 8 SC now (one more since I posted results Saturday) and five have been won by 2xIGs (4 different players). Yorr Palp Aces won two (2 different players) and one won by Poe+Stresshog+3 bandits. I think people are playing them because they have the fewest bad matchup and can consistently beat a lot of the popular builds right now.
Edited by AlexWI love how a lot of SC are either loaded with Empire or Rebels in the Top 4 slots.
There has been scum in top 4 at all three SC that I have attended.
I went to a 17 person Store Championship in Mt Airy NC.
1st Place was Vader w/ VI, Title, ATC, Engine; Turr Phenir w/ PtL, Autothrusters, Targeting Computer; and Yorr w/ Palpatine.
(He told me this was built to help against stress control lists, Turr and Vader can pass some of their stress to the shuttle. There were no stress lists at this tourney though.)
2nd Place was Bro-Bots: IG88-B w/ Predator, Mangler, Advanced Sensors, Autothrusters, Inertial Damps; IG88-D, w/ Predator, HLC, Adv. Sensors, Autothrusters
The other two in top four were:
Han Solo w/ Predator, Gunner, C3-P0, Engine, Title and 3 Bandits
Carnor Jax w/ VI, Title, Stealth Device, Autothrusters; Whisper w/ VI, ACD, FCS, Agent Kallus, and Omega Leader w/ Juke, Comm Relay. (My list and my best finish yet so I'm very happy.)
Great games Saturday. I was surprised by the lack of stress lists but Yorr still proved worth the points by allowing Turr to get as many as 3 actions a round.
Edited by Raezar
I love how a lot of SC are either loaded with Empire or Rebels in the Top 4 slots.
There has been scum in top 4 at all three SC that I have attended.
I went to a 17 person Store Championship in Mt Airy NC.
1st Place was Vader w/ VI, Title, ATC, Engine; Turr Phenir w/ PtL, Autothrusters, Targeting Computer; and Yorr w/ Palpatine.
(He told me this was built to help against stress control lists, Turr and Vader can pass some of their stress to the shuttle. There were no stress lists at this tourney though.)
2nd Place was Bro-Bots: IG88-B w/ Predator, Mangler, Advanced Sensors, Autothrusters, Inertial Damps; IG88-D, w/ Predator, HLC, Adv. Sensors, Autothrusters
The other two in top four were:
Han Solo w/ Predator, Gunner, C3-P0, Engine, Title and 3 Bandits
Carnor Jax w/ VI, Title, Stealth Device, Autothrusters; Whisper w/ VI, ACD, FCS, Agent Kallus, and Omega Leader w/ Juke, Comm Relay. (My list and my best finish yet so I'm very happy.)
Great games Saturday. I was surprised by the lack of stress lists but Yorr still proved worth the points by allowing Turr to get as many as 4 actions a round.
What did you fly? Did we play?
There has been scum in top 4 at all three SC that I have attended.I love how a lot of SC are either loaded with Empire or Rebels in the Top 4 slots.
Great games Saturday. I was surprised by the lack of stress lists but Yorr still proved worth the points by allowing Turr to get as many as 4 actions a round.I went to a 17 person Store Championship in Mt Airy NC.
1st Place was Vader w/ VI, Title, ATC, Engine; Turr Phenir w/ PtL, Autothrusters, Targeting Computer; and Yorr w/ Palpatine.
(He told me this was built to help against stress control lists, Turr and Vader can pass some of their stress to the shuttle. There were no stress lists at this tourney though.)
2nd Place was Bro-Bots: IG88-B w/ Predator, Mangler, Advanced Sensors, Autothrusters, Inertial Damps; IG88-D, w/ Predator, HLC, Adv. Sensors, Autothrusters
The other two in top four were:
Han Solo w/ Predator, Gunner, C3-P0, Engine, Title and 3 Bandits
Carnor Jax w/ VI, Title, Stealth Device, Autothrusters; Whisper w/ VI, ACD, FCS, Agent Kallus, and Omega Leader w/ Juke, Comm Relay. (My list and my best finish yet so I'm very happy.)
Should have only been three actions per turn. Ptl is once per turn.
Action ptl action shoot action.
Winner (1st in swiss, me):
Warden Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Seismic Charges + Ion Bombs
Warden Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Seismic Charges + Ion Bombs
Gold Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Bomb Loadout + Seismic Charges + R3-A2
(100)
I've been practicing with a similar list using Sabine (crew) and it's insanely good with her adding extra damage!
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There has been scum in top 4 at all three SC that I have attended.I love how a lot of SC are either loaded with Empire or Rebels in the Top 4 slots.
Great games Saturday. I was surprised by the lack of stress lists but Yorr still proved worth the points by allowing Turr to get as many as 4 actions a round.I went to a 17 person Store Championship in Mt Airy NC.
1st Place was Vader w/ VI, Title, ATC, Engine; Turr Phenir w/ PtL, Autothrusters, Targeting Computer; and Yorr w/ Palpatine.
(He told me this was built to help against stress control lists, Turr and Vader can pass some of their stress to the shuttle. There were no stress lists at this tourney though.)
2nd Place was Bro-Bots: IG88-B w/ Predator, Mangler, Advanced Sensors, Autothrusters, Inertial Damps; IG88-D, w/ Predator, HLC, Adv. Sensors, Autothrusters
The other two in top four were:
Han Solo w/ Predator, Gunner, C3-P0, Engine, Title and 3 Bandits
Carnor Jax w/ VI, Title, Stealth Device, Autothrusters; Whisper w/ VI, ACD, FCS, Agent Kallus, and Omega Leader w/ Juke, Comm Relay. (My list and my best finish yet so I'm very happy.)
Should have only been three actions per turn. Ptl is once per turn.
Action ptl action shoot action.
I played him once in swiss and then again for the semis. He was playing it correctly, though he was doing action>shoot>action>ptl>action sometimes.
Remember he has Serissu with Squad Leader to help with that. So even if Kavil bumps doing a green move, Serissu can potentially give him his focus action.
Yeah, definitely. And he has Palob to help ensure that the target lacks the focus/evade tokens necessary to prevent Opportunist from triggering, and who can probably use Bodyguard on Sirissu to offset the penalty from losing her action. But that's another part of the "conventional wisdom" that this list eschews. There are so many moving parts to this list (the need to Bodyguard Sirissu, who needs to Squad Leader Kavil) that the idea that it could actually win out is just amazing.
Winner (1st in swiss, me):
Warden Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Seismic Charges + Ion Bombs
Warden Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Seismic Charges + Ion Bombs
Gold Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Bomb Loadout + Seismic Charges + R3-A2
(100)
I've been practicing with a similar list using Sabine (crew) and it's insanely good with her adding extra damage!
Oh man. I forgot about the Sabine crew card. I wonder if it gains ANOTHER bomb slot or if it's only if you don't have a bomb slot already.
The store championship for Meeples Games in Seattle finished yesterday. I didn't stick around for the final four on account of a long drive home.
Anyone else got the info for this?
Winner (1st in swiss, me):
Warden Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Seismic Charges + Ion Bombs
Warden Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Seismic Charges + Ion Bombs
Gold Squadron Pilot + Twin Laser Turret + Extra Munitions + Bomb Loadout + Seismic Charges + R3-A2
(100)
I've been practicing with a similar list using Sabine (crew) and it's insanely good with her adding extra damage!
Oh man. I forgot about the Sabine crew card. I wonder if it gains ANOTHER bomb slot or if it's only if you don't have a bomb slot already.
It gains another.