I am pretty sure I am reading this right. If you get a pilot crit card you can discard it completely and not even take a damage from it or do you still get the damage but it's just place faced down.

I am pretty sure it would say place face down, but it just seems really good for 1 point on big hull ships. Wish the Ghost had an elite talent. I don't understand why it doesn't when almost every ship that has a named pilot does.

I am pretty sure I am reading this right. If you get a pilot crit card you can discard it completely and not even take a damage from it

Yep.

Combine with Leebo for a 41% chance of no-selling all crits coming your way.

I am pretty sure I am reading this right. If you get a pilot crit card you can discard it completely and not even take a damage from it or do you still get the damage but it's just place faced down.

I am pretty sure it would say place face down, but it just seems really good for 1 point on big hull ships. Wish the Ghost had an elite talent. I don't understand why it doesn't when almost every ship that has a named pilot does.

Your assumption is correct. If you were to flip it facedown, it would indeed say that. This is another case of do what the card says, not what it doesn't. And you're quite right in thinking it's a good deal for 1 point.

Wish the Ghost had an elite talent. I don't understand why it doesn't when almost every ship that has a named pilot does.

Because it would be rather completely broken. Observe:

Hera Syndulla (Push the Limit, Advanced Sensors, Dorsal Turret, Nien Nunb, Kyle Katarn, Engine Upgrade)

This would be a 57-point, 16-health ship that could:

1) Perform 2 actions pre-move at the cost of a stress, then;

2) Cherry-pick one of its six green maneuvers, then;

3) Immediately remove the stress it gained in step 1 and effectively perform a third action, then;

4) Proceed to murder some poor sod with its 4-dice primary weapon, and;

4a) If it can't do that, it simply falls back on its turret.

Yeah. No thanks.

Wish the Ghost had an elite talent. I don't understand why it doesn't when almost every ship that has a named pilot does.

Yeah. No thanks.

I believe it's spelled: y-e-s p-l-e-a-s-e

Thanks guys! I really want to love the ghost, because I enjoy the show, but I don't like how much it cost. Herra or Kannan with Ezra upgraded you're lookin at

80 points. Other thing I don't like is it doesn't have a 360 degree primary weapon attack. Was just at a tournament this weekend and it seemed the meta is just running 3 aces that can dodge arcs and have iniation. That means you have 80 points not doing **** against that if they move last and might as well be gg

Wish the Ghost had an elite talent. I don't understand why it doesn't when almost every ship that has a named pilot does.

Because it would be rather completely broken. Observe:

Hera Syndulla (Push the Limit, Advanced Sensors, Dorsal Turret, Nien Nunb, Kyle Katarn, Engine Upgrade)

This would be a 57-point, 16-health ship that could:

1) Perform 2 actions pre-move at the cost of a stress, then;

2) Cherry-pick one of its six green maneuvers, then;

3) Immediately remove the stress it gained in step 1 and effectively perform a third action, then;

4) Proceed to murder some poor sod with its 4-dice primary weapon, and;

4a) If it can't do that, it simply falls back on its turret.

Yeah. No thanks.

You can have a very similar setup using either Han, Lando or Chewbacca in a YT-1300. They have a turreted 3-dice primary weapon instead. None of them are considered broken. (At least they still get played in tournaments, and people losing to them might think they are broken)

Imperials have the Decimator with three crew options and a larger ordnance selection, for a turreted 3-dice primary weapon. It also matches "shield" and "hull" stats compared to the VCX-100. While you do have different crew choices I'm certain that would balance out as well. This ship isn't considered broken (at least by the community at large)

For Scum, the closest considered would be the Hound's Tooth. It has an (Illicit) slot instead of an EPT but you can defiantly get similar choices which would put it on par with the VCX-100. Also it, as well as the Falcon, has an agility die to its stats.

In truth, I really don't think saying by adding an EPT to the VCX-100 would break the ship for the game.

It will be sad if another awesome large ship like the firespray won't be played at the highest of competitive play just because of its primary firing arc

Wish the Ghost had an elite talent. I don't understand why it doesn't when almost every ship that has a named pilot does.

Because it would be rather completely broken. Observe:

Hera Syndulla (Push the Limit, Advanced Sensors, Dorsal Turret, Nien Nunb, Kyle Katarn, Engine Upgrade)

This would be a 57-point, 16-health ship that could:

1) Perform 2 actions pre-move at the cost of a stress, then;

2) Cherry-pick one of its six green maneuvers, then;

3) Immediately remove the stress it gained in step 1 and effectively perform a third action, then;

4) Proceed to murder some poor sod with its 4-dice primary weapon, and;

4a) If it can't do that, it simply falls back on its turret.

Yeah. No thanks.

Only BBATWEDGE can make 3 actions in a such a PTL-tastic way.

and then a TLT comes around and whoops dat phat hunk'o'rebel'junk to pieces.

Good riddance >

Thanks guys! I really want to love the ghost, because I enjoy the show, but I don't like how much it cost. Herra or Kannan with Ezra upgraded you're lookin at

80 points. Other thing I don't like is it doesn't have a 360 degree primary weapon attack. Was just at a tournament this weekend and it seemed the meta is just running 3 aces that can dodge arcs and have iniation. That means you have 80 points not doing **** against that if they move last and might as well be gg

Thanks guys! I really want to love the ghost, because I enjoy the show, but I don't like how much it cost. Herra or Kannan with Ezra upgraded you're lookin at

80 points. Other thing I don't like is it doesn't have a 360 degree primary weapon attack. Was just at a tournament this weekend and it seemed the meta is just running 3 aces that can dodge arcs and have iniation. That means you have 80 points not doing **** against that if they move last and might as well be gg

want to ruin their day?

I've got one special list for such cases

TEH SPECIAL ISSUE WARPED REBEL CERBERUS OF ACE-EATING DOOM

caution: may cause getting choked, strangulated and beat up after an ace-list gets chewed.

do not use in tight confines, against TLT-lists and PWTs

Thanks guys! I really want to love the ghost, because I enjoy the show, but I don't like how much it cost. Herra or Kannan with Ezra upgraded you're lookin at

80 points. Other thing I don't like is it doesn't have a 360 degree primary weapon attack. Was just at a tournament this weekend and it seemed the meta is just running 3 aces that can dodge arcs and have iniation. That means you have 80 points not doing **** against that if they move last and might as well be gg

Nothing in this game has a 360-degree primary attack. Some ships have turrets or abilities that let you attack with your primary weapon outside of your firing arc though. Big, HUGE, difference.

Other thing I don't like is it doesn't have a 360 degree primary weapon attack.

Nothing in this game has a 360-degree primary attack. Some ships have turrets or abilities that let you attack with your primary weapon outside of your firing arc though. Big, HUGE, difference.

Lots of things have a 360 degree primary weapon attack. Nothing has a 360 degree primary weapon arc.

We still have to see how or if actions work on a docked ship yet to see exactly how effective it is yet....

No, we don't. The docking mechanics were published a while ago, even before the Gozanti came out. Docked ships do not exist until they deploy. No actions.

On big thing that the VCX-100 has going for it that it has a 4 dice primary and can take turret upgrades if you want to be able to make out of arc shots. Being able to toss 5 dice at range one is huge.

The VCX-100 isn't the first ship to not have any pilots get EPT slots. Only Scum has the ability to take an EPT on every type of ship that they have available. Other ships that lack EPT slots (not counting Huge ships):

Imperial Shuttle

TIE Punisher

Rebel Y-Wings

K-Wings

And that whole Veteran Instincts on Hera is not possible since it's an EPT so she will just get arc dodged as well. Well you guys answered original question thanks.

Because it would be rather completely broken...

Yeah.... I don't believe so.

You can have a very similar setup using either Han, Lando or Chewbacca in a YT-1300. They have a turreted 3-dice primary weapon instead. None of them are considered broken. (At least they still get played in tournaments, and people losing to them might think they are broken)

Imperials have the Decimator with three crew options and a larger ordnance selection, for a turreted 3-dice primary weapon. It also matches "shield" and "hull" stats compared to the VCX-100. While you do have different crew choices I'm certain that would balance out as well. This ship isn't considered broken (at least by the community at large)

For Scum, the closest considered would be the Hound's Tooth. It has an (Illicit) slot instead of an EPT but you can defiantly get similar choices which would put it on par with the VCX-100. Also it, as well as the Falcon, has an agility die to its stats.

In truth, I really don't think saying by adding an EPT to the VCX-100 would break the ship for the game.

Push the Limit is an extraordinarily powerful EPT on Large ships, and it's commonly (ab)used. So are things like Predator, especially on a ship that can make two attacks per round as often as it wants.

And the VCX-100 is different from most other ships FFG has added to the game, in a couple of important ways. That is, it's like a Decimator with 4 Attack but no turret. it's like a Firespray that can take TLT, and it's like a Falcon but with 0 Agility. But there's nothing exactly like it, so expecting it to do something that most (but by no means all) other ships do isn't very reasonable.