With Stygium Particle Accelerator and gaining a free evade action when decloaking, when do you perform the evade action? Before you do the decloak move or after you do the decloak move?

Relevant rules:

Stygium Particle Accelerator: "When you either decloak or perform a cloak action, you may perform a free evade action."

Decloak: At the start of the Activation phase, after players have resolved all other abilities that trigger at the start of the Activation phase, each ship may spend a cloak token to decloak, starting with the ship with the lowest pilot skill (using initiative to break ties).

When a ship decloaks, it must choose one of the following effects:

• Perform a barrel roll using the [ 2] maneuver template.

• Perform a boost using the [ 2] maneuver template.

Decloaking is not an action or a maneuver, and a ship can decloak while it has a stress token.

A ship cannot decloak if it would overlap another ship or an obstacle token, or if the maneuver template would overlap an obstacle token.

After all decloaking has been resolved, the Activation phase continues as normal."

The reason this came up is from decloaking into and out of range 1 of Carnor Jax (prevents enemy ships at range 1 performing focus or evade actions)

Thoughts? Opinions? Reasoned rule-based arguements?

Ooooo dammn. That's a tough one.I would say that if decloaking withing range one of Jax you don't get the Evade action, or if cloaking within range one of Jax you don't get the evade action.

It looks like you have to resolve the decloak, which includes the barrel roll or boost portion, before you get to perform the evade action.

Those barrel rolls and boosts aren't actions, they're all part of the decloak, because if you can't perform that reposition, you can't decloak.

So if you can get away from Carnor, you should be able to do it.

I emailed FFG back in July 2014 and got this response:

Hello XXXXXX,

In response to your rules question:

Rule Question:

How does Stygium Particle Accelerator interact with Carnor Jax?

When a TIE phantom with Stygium Particle Acclerator decloaks, starting at Range 1 of Carnor Jax and ending at Range 2 of Carnor Jax, can that TIE phantom use Stygium Particle Accelerator to perform a free evade action?

When a TIE phantom with Stygium Particle Acclerator decloaks, starting at Range 2 of Carnor Jax and ending at Range 1 of Carnor Jax, can that TIE phantom use Stygium Particle Accelerator to perform a free evade action?

Thank you for your help,

XXXXXX

The Stygium Particle Accelerator will eventually receive an errata. As you pointed out, the time of “when” is unclear. It will merely be replaced with “after”.

So in the above situations, the phantom can perform a free evade action in the first case, but not in the second case.

Thanks for asking,

Frank Brooks

Associate Creative Content Developer

Fantasy Flight Games

[email protected]

It looks like the planned fix was never put into place, but I guess that's how its supposed to work.

It looks like you have to resolve the decloak, which includes the barrel roll or boost portion, before you get to perform the eavde action.

Those barrel rolls and boosts aren't actions, they're all part of the decloak, because if you can't perform that reposition, you can't decloak.

So if you can get away from Carnor, you should be able to do it.

Pretty much this. It depends on after the declok takes place and after the action is complete. So unless you have advanced sensors you have to first go through all the steps the nonce you take a cloak token or discard a cloak token (after all movements are complete) then you take an evade action assuming that didn't put you within range 1 of Canor Jax. If you are blocked then you either can't decloak or take actions so cases like this doesn really happen often. To be fair because of the great flexibility cloak gives you I would be suprised if you ever ended within range 1 after an activation with the phantom.

This should be in the FAQ for errata lol.

It looks like you have to resolve the decloak, which includes the barrel roll or boost portion, before you get to perform the eavde action.

Those barrel rolls and boosts aren't actions, they're all part of the decloak, because if you can't perform that reposition, you can't decloak.

So if you can get away from Carnor, you should be able to do it.

Pretty much this. It depends on after the declok takes place and after the action is complete. So unless you have advanced sensors you have to first go through all the steps the nonce you take a cloak token or discard a cloak token (after all movements are complete) then you take an evade action assuming that didn't put you within range 1 of Canor Jax. If you are blocked then you either can't decloak or take actions so cases like this doesn really happen often. To be fair because of the great flexibility cloak gives you I would be suprised if you ever ended within range 1 after an activation with the phantom.

Because of the change to decloak which now reads:

At the start of the Activation phase, after players have resolved all other abilities that trigger at the start of the Activation phase, each ship may spend a cloak token to decloak, starting with the ship with the lowest pilot skill (using initiative to break ties).

Advanced Sensors can't be used before Decloaking. Since you use it right before you reveal a maneuver when your ship activates in normal Pilot Skill order. Every ship that is going to Decloak has to do so before any ships begin to activate and reveal maneuvers.

An example of something that happens before decloak: Intelligence Agent. This is a "Start of the Action phase" effect that has to resolve before decloaking.

My take on it and as I have always played it. Decloak is not an action, and you can not officially count as a ship that decloaked until have you completed the 2 template move. Think about it, if it happened when you stated the decloak then if you cannot complete it because it's blocked do you still get to add an evade action (the answer is no) So it has to be after you successfully decloak which means after your 2 template move.

So I have always based getting the Evade action on where I ended up after the decloak. Two judges have ruled the same in two different tourny games.

It makes sense, but still probably needs a FAQ

I just realized how mean a combo stigium+juke is from this. Also i agree it happens after like a push the limit

I would surmise also that if the phantom is carrying a stress token at the time of decloaking it cannot get the free evade action as well.

I would surmise also that if the phantom is carrying a stress token at the time of decloaking it cannot get the free evade action as well.

No need It state free action on the card. And you can never take and action while stressed even free actions. So it's obvious. We don't want to Faq everything

Probably will get added to the FAQ after Cloaking Device comes out, as I imagine it'll see a bit more use on Scum cloakers than Phantoms.