Scum multiship pack speculation- tell me how my ideas suck

By Rakaydos, in X-Wing

Wretched Hive

-Includes a Starviper and M3A Intercepter

-Includes pilot cards for Scum TY1300 and Scum YT2400

-PS4 EPT Starviper Generic "Zahn Consortium Pilot"

-M3A fixes:

Custom Build- M3A only Modification, Limited, -2 points.

-You must equip 2 M3A-only title cards. (You may equip the same non-limited title twice)

Dirty Tricks- M3A only title, 1 point

-Gain an Illicit Slot

Overclocked engines- M3A Title, 3 points

-When you reveal your dial, if you are not stressed,

you may perform a 1straight maneuver. Then

receive a stress token

Angled Shields- M3A Title, 3 points

Add 1 shield

Other Fixes:

Production Model- -2 points, Starviper only title

This card has a negative point value

Special Modifications- YT1300 or YT2400 only Title, 1 point

-Gives an illicit slot

New Illicit cards:

Cloaking Device (reprint)

Glitterstim (reprint)

Hotshot Blaster (reprint)

SLAM Drive Unique, Illicit, 3 points

-Action: perform a Slam Action, then roll an attack die. if a critical hit is rolled, discard this card.

Thoughts?

the M3A stuff is heavily overpriced, and a little clunky trying to throw out fistfuls of titles. Remember they'd need to come in multiples, so if you have even two titles in each pack, that's 4 cards out of the allotted set. You'd need at least three in the pack, and that's six cards.

Better one fix, maybe two, and calling it done. I'm not convinced the fixes suggested would do it even if you picked them.

YT-1300 and YT-2400 with illicit upgrades... eeeeeh. Do we really want Dash packing Glitterstim, or perhaps Feedback Array to fix that pesky Range-1 bubble? I really don't think so.

Edited by Reiver

the M3A stuff is heavily overpriced, and a little clunky trying to throw out fistfuls of titles. Remember they'd need to come in multiples, so if you have even two titles in each pack, that's 4 cards out of the allotted set. You'd need at least three in the pack, and that's six cards.

Better one fix, maybe two, and calling it done. I'm not convinced the fixes suggested would do it even if you picked them.

YT-1300 and YT-2400 with illicit upgrades... eeeeeh. Do we really want Dash packing Glitterstim, or perhaps Feedback Array to fix that pesky Range-1 bubble? I really don't think so.

The M3A fix is a bit cardheavy, I suppse, but how many cards were in Most Wanted?

Dash with Feedback array? What's the problem?

I mean, it's not like he can put Outrider on at the same time... he's only got one Title slot...

I know the YT-1300 and YT-2400 were in common use. And yes, I'm sure there were plenty used by independent mercenaries in a Scum capacity.

But can we please _not_ have further overlap between Scum and other factions? It was needed at first, but no longer.

They should really errata the M3-A cards to all be 2 points cheaper. (except the PS 2 guy, he should only be 1 point cheaper)

But since that is unlikely, a very points efficient Scyk-only cannon to make them worth their points.

A range 1-2 double tapper like TLT turret that can remove blue target lock tokens. "Flak Cannon"

If the cannon cost -3 points, now that would be a fix.

Wretched Hive

-Includes a Starviper and M3A Intercepter

-Includes pilot cards for Scum TY1300 and Scum YT2400

-PS4 EPT Starviper Generic "Zahn Consortium Pilot"

-M3A fixes:

Custom Build- M3A only Modification, Limited, -2 points.

-You must equip 2 M3A-only title cards. (You may equip the same non-limited title twice)

Dirty Tricks- M3A only title, 1 point

-Gain an Illicit Slot

Overclocked engines- M3A Title, 3 points

-When you reveal your dial, if you are not stressed,

you may perform a 1straight maneuver. Then

receive a stress token

Angled Shields- M3A Title, 3 points

Add 1 shield

Other Fixes:

Production Model- -2 points, Starviper only title

This card has a negative point value

Special Modifications- YT1300 or YT2400 only Title, 1 point

-Gives an illicit slot

New Illicit cards:

Cloaking Device (reprint)

Glitterstim (reprint)

Hotshot Blaster (reprint)

SLAM Drive Unique, Illicit, 3 points

-Action: perform a Slam Action, then roll an attack die. if a critical hit is rolled, discard this card.

Thoughts?

If u feature these 2 ships then there needs to be 4 pilot cards for each.

M3-a doesn't need a veteran non unique, so a new non unique ps 1 would be the best solution. There are 2 more unique scyk pilots for cardas to fill the rest of the pilots.

The StarViper's 4 pilots could include 2 copies of a Zann Consortium non unique vet that can have an ept. Ps should be 4 or 5. Cannot think of any pilots for the unique slot off hand.

If you want scum pilots for the yt1300, then it would probably be a most wanted 2 rather than an aces pack. The yt2400 isn't that popular a ship among scum, its fairly new still and usually used for legal work. Scum begin to use that ship much later in the time line (may be too far ahead).

That being said the falcon is a mess of a design at the moment and its a bad ship to throw into a fix package.

1. scyk sstill isn't a cheap swarmer

2. scyk is still overpriced

3. scyk still isn't a dogfighter for high PS pilots

4. yep, it also needs high-level pilots!

5. scyk missile\torp build still is a LOL

6. 25 point starviper thugs sounds fun, but surely won't happen. FFG loves rebels, and E-wing is 27

7. starviper needs Pilots with PS7-8 desperately.

8. SLAM TIME! cool but not really likely to make difference, we don't have our ps8 miranda

9. YT-s are still not S&V ships :C

If you want scum pilots for the yt1300, then it would probably be a most wanted 2 rather than an aces pack. The yt2400 isn't that popular a ship among scum, its fairly new still and usually used for legal work. Scum begin to use that ship much later in the time line (may be too far ahead).

With the TFA ships available, I think we are quite far in the timeline (as far as it goes, one might say)...

Wretched Hive

-Includes a Starviper and M3A Intercepter

-Includes pilot cards for Scum TY1300 and Scum YT2400

-PS4 EPT Starviper Generic "Zahn Consortium Pilot"

-M3A fixes:Custom Build- M3A only Modification, Limited, -2 points.

-You must equip 2 M3A-only title cards. (You may equip the same non-limited title twice)

Dirty Tricks- M3A only title, 1 point

-Gain an Illicit Slot

Overclocked engines- M3A Title, 3 points

-When you reveal your dial, if you are not stressed,

you may perform a 1straight maneuver. Then

receive a stress token

Angled Shields- M3A Title, 3 points

Add 1 shield

Other Fixes:Production Model- -2 points, Starviper only title

This card has a negative point valueSpecial Modifications- YT1300 or YT2400 only Title, 1 point-Gives an illicit slot

New Illicit cards:

Cloaking Device (reprint)

Glitterstim (reprint)

Hotshot Blaster (reprint)SLAM Drive Unique, Illicit, 3 points

-Action: perform a Slam Action, then roll an attack die. if a critical hit is rolled, discard this card.

Thoughts?

If u feature these 2 ships then there needs to be 4 pilot cards for each.

M3-a doesn't need a veteran non unique, so a new non unique ps 1 would be the best solution. There are 2 more unique scyk pilots for cardas to fill the rest of the pilots.

The StarViper's 4 pilots could include 2 copies of a Zann Consortium non unique vet that can have an ept. Ps should be 4 or 5. Cannot think of any pilots for the unique slot off hand.

If you want scum pilots for the yt1300, then it would probably be a most wanted 2 rather than an aces pack. The yt2400 isn't that popular a ship among scum, its fairly new still and usually used for legal work. Scum begin to use that ship much later in the time line (may be too far ahead).

Edited by Seraphimtoaster375