With the release of Wave 8 on the horizon, I would like to hear some predictions for Wave 9. Here are mine.
Rebels/ Resistance: TFA YT-1300, HH-87 Starhopper
Empire/ FO : Kylo Ren's attack shuttle, Special forces TIE/fo
S&V: Quadjumper(?)
Edited by Mattman7306My predictions:
More cartoons
More ships pooping out smaller ships
More rules confusion
Less dogfighting
my prediction: mostly rainy days and cold weather when announced, followed by a hot sommer and a longing for icecream once it arrives
Rebels:
Resistance: Yt-1300 with new dish
Empire: Tie Avenger
FO: TIE/SF
Scum: Skipray Blastboat
Rebel Veterans: X and E wing
Scum Aces: Interceptor and Starviper
Scum Epic: Wyld Kard
more.... just, more.....
Rebels:
Resistance: Yt-1300 with new dish
Empire: Tie Avenger
FO: TIE/SF
Scum: Skipray Blastboat
Rebel Veterans: X and E wing
Scum Aces: Interceptor and Starviper
Scum Epic: Wyld Kard
Given that TIE Avenger is a nickname, and that the ship's "in game" name is TIE Advanced, it would surprise me if we get it. Maybe it could be represented via a "TIE Advanced x2" card.
Actually, the TIE Avenger is a completely different beast to the TIE Advanced.
As for predictions, take a look at the "need a ship" link in my signature and take your pick. I was expecting TFA ships to feature prominently in Wave 9, now I'm not so sure....
Think of the Avenger as an Interceptor with shields and missiles, while the Advanced is a Fighter with shields and a missile.
I was expecting the Aggressor originally, but with the TIE/SF being likely for FO, I went with something else.
With s turns,tallon rolls, and tech upgrades in the game now, it can add a lot to the Empire.
Edited by All Shields ForwardActually, the TIE Avenger is a completely different beast to the TIE Advanced.
Its official name , however, is "TIE Advanced"
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE/ad_starfighter
Think of the Avenger as an Interceptor with shields and missiles, while the Advanced is a Fighter with shields and a missile.
The TIE Adv. Prototype seems very like that concept - a shielded, missile-equipped Interceptor - albeit with a different dial and a weaker hull.
Official name, yes, but never it's common name.
"The TIE/ad starfighter or TIE Advanced was the culmination of a series of starfighter designs first explored with Darth Vader's TIE Advanced x1. To avoid confusion with Lord Vader's personal craft, it was known better by its nickname TIE Avenger ."
Seems like that kind of confusion is exactly what you're causing here by insisting on referring to it by it's lesser-used name.
That's why I suggested a TIE Advanced Mk 2 upgrade to represent the Avenger, instead of a whole new model. Would fit with FFG having a shuttle card for the TIE bomber, based on ICS, instead of having a new model with the wings turned out instead of in (based on the movie).
As to what the card would do - maybe give it a Boost action that can be taken twice instead of once, and perhaps a Tractor Beam Only cannon upgrade like with the Mist Hunter.
Those seem to me like the primary schticks of the TIE avenger - immense speed, and a tractor. I'm not sure if it deserves access to bombs on top of that.
TAP is nothing like an Avenger. Its attack is weaker. and it's health is lower. The dial is much slower too. Also no t rolls or even s turns. There is plenty of room for it. Especially now that the Advanced and Defender rolls have become more defined with the new titles.
TAP is nothing like an Avenger. Its attack is weaker. and it's health is lower. The dial is much slower too.
"Much slower"? Speed 5 + Boost is as fast as ships get in this game.
I was under the impression that the Avenger was supposed to be about equal to the TIE Advanced Mark 1 in firepower, and worse than the Mark 1 in health, having sacrificed armor for speed.
The game inevitably blurs out some ship differences. Advanced Mark 1 is supposed to have more firepower than basic TIE (and doesn't). It's supposed to have more health than the TIE and the Interceptor - it doesn't.
Edited by IronlordI thought that we'd seen an end to FFG digging deeper into EU obscurity to find ships with the release of TFA. My friends who play were all excited by this as we care little for the EU. I thought TFA would provide enough material for 12 months, until Rogue One could resupply the game with more options/pilots, followed by EpVIII, so on and so on.
As the countless threads on TFA have made abundantly clear .. TFA didn't give us a lot.
I predict: the few ships from TFA with a side of EU salad.
TAP is nothing like an Avenger. Its attack is weaker. and it's health is lower. The dial is much slower too.
"Much slower"? Speed 5 + Boost is as fast as ships get in this game.
I was under the impression that the Avenger was supposed to be about equal to the TIE Advanced Mark 1 in firepower, and worse than the Mark 1 in health, having sacrificed armor for speed.
The game inevitably blurs out some ship differences. Advanced Mark 1 is supposed to have more firepower than basic TIE (and doesn't). It's supposed to have more health than the TIE and the Interceptor - it doesn't.
You may be thinking of the multiplayer game version. Story mode had the exact same number and type of lasers that the Interceptor and Defender had. It also had twice the shields of an X Wing. You're correct that it had less armor.
What I mean by "slower" is all the greens on the TAP are speed one. For the Avenger making the ones red and threes green would be "faster".
I thought that we'd seen an end to FFG digging deeper into EU obscurity to find ships with the release of TFA...
Pretty sure the developers said before the film came out that they would continue to make EU ships. That said, I thoroughly expect more Force Awakens additions, and sooner rather than later. There's probably at least four ships from the film to come.
Rebels will continue to be a source of inspiration for FFG as well.
You may be thinking of the multiplayer game version. Story mode had the exact same number and type of lasers that the Interceptor and Defender had. It also had twice the shields of an X Wing.
I recall a few months ago, it coming up that the "stats displayed" were incorrect in the TIE Fighter game- with the Avenger's actual shielding as demonstrated by how much damage it could take, being 50 SBD, same as the X-wing.
If the Avenger is significantly less shielded than the Tie Defender - then (since the tabletop game nerfs the Defender by giving it only 3 shields - less than double the X-Wing's shielding (absent upgrades)) - then it follows that the Avenger should not have 3 shields but 2.
What I mean by "slower" is all the greens on the TAP are speed one. For the Avenger making the ones red and threes green would be "faster".
That's not speed - that's manueverability. The TAP turns better at low speeds, the Intercepter turns better at high speeds.
If I had homemade Avenger models, without rules, and wanted to use an existing ship as proxy - the TAP would, to me, be a better proxy than anything else - with its weak guns not bothering me that much. After all, Interceptors sometimes have chin-mounted guns as well, whereas Avengers never do.
If I had to choose between introducing a new Avenger model, and introducing instead an "Avenger upgrade card" that the standard TIE Advanced could take, I would prefer the latter - since it would mean that, from the outset, there would be plenty of "Avenger pilots" (all the existing TIE advanced pilots).
Link to the thread specifically mentioning.the Tie Avenger please, that sounds worth a read.
I'm glad it doesn't bother you. However using the TAP is incorrect. It will bother those that pay attention to stats.The stats are different, the actions are different, the upgrade are different, the dial is different, the pilots and their abilities are different... The TAP is just like the Avenger, except different in every way.
Also, if a plane is able to go slower without stalling (taking stress), than that plane has a slower stall SPEED. Not stall maneuver.
Edited by All Shields ForwardLink to the thread specifically mentioning.the Tie Avenger please, that sounds worth a read.
Topic came up here:
with the TIE Advanced from the TIE fighter game being synonymous with the Avenger:
This was the discussion topic on a different forum where a person described testing the Avenger and Defender and proving that they were SBD 50 and 100, not 100 and 200:
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=18704752&postcount=42
Edited by IronlordI'm the PC game Avenger was a rocket compared to the advanced. Similar fire power, but zooooom.
I'm the PC game Avenger was a rocket compared to the advanced. Similar fire power, but zooooom.
There was a game that allowed you to play both the Avenger and the Vader-style Advanced?
Was the Avenger slightly more fragile in it?
The game started with one layer of shields. But the player could reinforce them with a second layer. Making them stronger than an X Wing. It is cool seeing all the base values though. The base Avenger would appear to be weaker than an A Wing, but in the game cutting threw X Wings and B Wings was never a problem.