This weekend I gave in and finally bought my first X-wing set, the TFA core set. Needless to say I'm hooked and want to expand my collection. Therefore I was wondering which from the previously released ships make sense thematically to add to my collection. In other words, which of the previous ships could have flown together with the T-70 and TIE/fo according to canon?
Edited by RamsarTFA era ships
And approved...anyways I'm also hoping FFG releases some new 'blue' expansions soon, specifically a new version of the MF ![]()
This is all just my opinion, but here is what I would say (with my reasons):
Rebels
Millennium Falcon (obviously)
A-Wing (it was a newer ship in RotJ so it's likely still around although newer canon might call its age into question)
B-Wing (ditto)
E-Wing (not sure if this is canon anymore, but it's from the right time period)
K-Wing (ditto, I think)
Imperials
TIE Defender (a newer ship that was built later and in much greater numbers than the Advanced)
TIE Punisher (maybe, not actually sure about this one)
Decimator (again, maybe, not really sure)
I think most other ships were either too old or too expensive to mass produce to still be around much. As for Scum, I imagine anything goes since they'll grab whatever they can get.
I don't really think there's much info yet on which legacy ships would now be in use. The T-65's, As, and Bs could conceivably still be in use in much the same way Ys and Zs were still in use in the GCW era.
E-wing and k wing are the rebels newest ships and most likely to still be around, y wings a relic of 50 years by tfa and a-wing`s and b-wings would both be 30 years old.
There's nothing imperial in game at the moment younger than 30 years old I don't think even the defender is pre Jedi.
Tie Fighters, since they're basically the FO but worse ![]()
they make for great mixed (mini) swarms
3 FOs are also making lovely escorts for the named punishers
The Y-wing is the AK-47 of the Rebel fleet. Let it sit for a few decades, pop in a fresh astromech, and let her fly.
Edited by WishboneConsidering the Falcon was in the prequels I think anything is fair game. The only ships that MIGHT be too old are z-95s and Y-Wings, but even then they can still survive if well-kept.
I think it'd be awesome to see an old legacy fleet in Episode 8 or 9.
TIE Interceptors were newish when ROTJ takes place, and were much more common and cheaper money wise than Defenders.
E-wing and k wing are the rebels newest ships and most likely to still be around, y wings a relic of 50 years by tfa and a-wing`s and b-wings would both be 30 years old.
There's nothing imperial in game at the moment younger than 30 years old I don't think even the defender is pre Jedi.
Technically speaking....30 years isnt old for an airframe, many of the frames the USAF uses are 20-30+ years old...heck some are even from the 1950's (KC-135)
Star Wars universe technological stagnation is so bad that you can fly anything with/against anything else and it makes sense thematically.
Considering the Falcon was in the prequels I think anything is fair game. The only ships that MIGHT be too old are z-95s and Y-Wings, but even then they can still survive if well-kept.
And Z-95 were actually used in the TFA prequel novel Before the Awakening - for plausible deniability - Resistance operatives disguised as pirates.
Technically speaking....30 years isnt old for an airframe, many of the frames the USAF uses are 20-30+ years old...heck some are even from the 1950's (KC-135)
B-52, still the centerpiece of the bomber fleet, entered active service 1955, last built in 1962, expected to serve until the 2040s. So today the newest one would be 53 years old, albeit with upgrades and refits along the way.
With that comparison pretty much anything from the GCW, or even Clone Wars, could still be in use by the TFA era.
The Y-wing is the AK-47 of the Rebel fleet. Let it sit for a few decades, pop in a fresh astromech, and let her fly.
Furthermore with decades of proven success as a robust and versatile multi-role attack platform, there's no reason why Konesayr wouldn't have had sufficient demand to put an updated model into production.
Technically speaking....30 years isnt old for an airframe, many of the frames the USAF uses are 20-30+ years old...heck some are even from the 1950's (KC-135)
B-52, still the centerpiece of the bomber fleet, entered active service 1955, last built in 1962, expected to serve until the 2040s. So today the newest one would be 53 years old, albeit with upgrades and refits along the way.
With that comparison pretty much anything from the GCW, or even Clone Wars, could still be in use by the TFA era.
And when it comes to transport planes, some are older still:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-3
Edited by IronlordI have a general sense that the First Order has has to totally rebuild their military after the Battle of Jaku. They may not have _anything_ left from the Empire.
Similarly: the T-70 X-Wing is considered obsolete as of TFA- the Republic is using T-80s. The Resistance is able to get T-70s because they've been decommissioned and sold off.
So realistically? The Resistance will fly anything Incom that shares parts with the T-70. And Y-Wings, because they can be built from anything.
The First Order is tougher...
This is all just my opinion, but here is what I would say (with my reasons):
Rebels
Millennium Falcon (obviously)
A-Wing (it was a newer ship in RotJ so it's likely still around although newer canon might call its age into question)
B-Wing (ditto)
E-Wing (not sure if this is canon anymore, but it's from the right time period)
K-Wing (ditto, I think)
Imperials
TIE Defender (a newer ship that was built later and in much greater numbers than the Advanced)
TIE Punisher (maybe, not actually sure about this one)
Decimator (again, maybe, not really sure)
I think most other ships were either too old or too expensive to mass produce to still be around much. As for Scum, I imagine anything goes since they'll grab whatever they can get.
Technically Star Wars Rebels places the A-wing and B-wing, at least the B-wing prototype, five years prior to A New Hope.
And before that, ships like them appeared in Droids. There were retcons that tried to make them different ships with similar appearance, but those retcons are arguably unnecessary.
Let's not forget there were those kind of sweet looking full-canopy Y-Wings in the prequels too!
I'd generally say anything goes. When I'm driving around I still see cars made in the 60s and 70s every so often.
So all ships are technically compatible, so now the question is whether they'll make an appearance in some of the new films/books and whether FFG releases some TFA era pilots for them
The First Order is a different entity to the Imperial Remnant, from what I've gathered. The IR may well still be using Defenders and Advanceds. You could also fly Royal Guard Interceptors with Shield and Engine Upgrades to represent an improved model (the old TIE Fighter computer game had a rogue Imperial admiral using modified TIE Fighters, Bombers and Interceptors equipped with shields; one could assume that sort of thing became more common).
I don't know what the New Republic is flying, other than the T-85 X-Wing (the ones in the film are obsolete models, even if they're still an improvement on the old T-65). Leia's shuttle was cobbled together from old B-Wing parts, so I would assume the Resistance might also fly B-Wings.
I'd say you could fly both models of X-Wing, A-Wings, B-Wings, E-Wings and K-Wings, along with the large ships, against Interceptors, Defenders, Advanceds, Punishers and Bombers (and First Order TIEs representing an improvement to the venerable fighter) as part of some sort of hypothetical conflict between Endor and the assault on Starkiller Base. The battle of Jakku that left the planet littered with broken Star Destroyers was only a year after Endor, but there's still room for further skirmishes with the Remnant and scattered ex-Imperial fleets after that.
I don't know what the New Republic is flying, other than the T-85 X-Wing (the ones in the film are obsolete models, even if they're still an improvement on the old T-65).
The existence of the T-85 doesn't mean the T-70 is obsolete. The T-85s may at the moment be rare and only flown by a few NR pilots, with the T-70 being the backbone of the fleet - or of the "local security forces".
Obsolete in military terms usually means doesn't conform to current doctrine or cost too **** much to maintain logistically. Remember the Night Witches used PO-2 biplanes in WWII against the Germans. They actually moved so slowly the Germans had problems hitting them without stalling their engines. Again in WWII the horse was one of the most important forms of draught and transportation. While it was extremely vulnerable to gunfire, horses could operate without fuel which some nations like Germany had limited access to. While there were cases of cavalry tactics used in WWII, they were mostly used to transport infantry, and artillery.
Remember the until the events of episode II movie, war was a very theoretical thing - neither of the 2 galactic powers, the Republic or the Hutts were interested in pursuing a war of conquest prefering to use diplomancy, influence, economics and subterfuge. The Hutts kept their military technology but were too proud to use it, and too cunning to sell it. The republic however seemed to have lost a lot of their old tech, tactics and doctrines. The clone wars which lead to the militaristic Empire changed that, however it lost the war against the Rebels due its own internal corruption. The First Order seems to be the primary remnant of the Empire (if not only), and have continued their pursuit of tech while the New republic returned to the decadent old republic ways.
Also lastly, tech in Star Wars cannot be compared to the tech advances in the first half of the 1900s. If anything is sorta like the tech progress of say the Mongol conquests. Advances in tech are incremental and evolutionary not revolutionary. Blaster tech, repulsor tech and other wonderous tech have been around since the before the old republic - yes its gotten smaller and more refined but hasn't really gotten that much better.
Seeing all those answers I'm wondering where you guys gathered all that info ![]()
Is there a star wars book or comic series that you can recommend, that sheds light on ship technology and progress between episode VI and VII?
Seeing all those answers I'm wondering where you guys gathered all that info
Is there a star wars book or comic series that you can recommend, that sheds light on ship technology and progress between episode VI and VII?
Right now the Episode VII novelization and "Before the Awakening" - a collection of novellas about Rey, Poe and Finn prior to the events of the movie - are the sole sources of additional canon material for this time period. There are also some minor tidbits in the young reader books (Moving Target, Weapon of a Jedi, Smuggler's Run) that came out on Force Friday. Comics have not hit this time period yet, though the Shattered Empire miniseries introduces Poe's parents, and there's a C-3P0 one-shot coming out that occurs in the gap between ROTJ and TFA.