What is the best VCX pilot

By Agemman, in X-Wing Squad Lists

All 3 are good in their own right, all depends on what you want to fly.

Edit: Also, why not pair kanan with dorsal/tlt kyle w/ret spec

Edited by Ralgon

I made another one!http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/378840/kananzeb-wedge#manoeuvres=hide&view=brief

I can't wait to get a Ghost so i can try them all!

I don't know about Kyle, the HWK always seems a very fragile ship, i would rather put in an ace or some blockers to support Kanan

Your choice but i see it as a good compliment, the 3rd focus for kanan is enough to cancel at least a quarter of most lists red dice every turn they can combo it, and doesn't make kanans ability near useless if you run into a stressbot/ panic attack. (You can even take the title and load up kyle early to pass on later)

http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/378987/kananzeb-teketu#manoeuvres=hide&view=brief

I made another one!http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/378840/kananzeb-wedge#manoeuvres=hide&view=brief

I can't wait to get a Ghost so i can try them all!

I don't know about Kyle, the HWK always seems a very fragile ship, i would rather put in an ace or some blockers to support Kanan

Your choice but i see it as a good compliment, the 3rd focus for kanan is enough to cancel at least a quarter of most lists red dice every turn they can combo it, and doesn't make kanans ability near useless if you run into a stressbot/ panic attack. (You can even take the title and load up kyle early to pass on later)
That's a good point, i could try this for a similar effect and a second ship sturdier than a HWK:http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/378987/kananzeb-teketu#manoeuvres=hide&view=brief

Nice! If you're really set on a big ace you could swap out jan for chopper, but one of my bugbears is i dont like self harm cards

I made another one!http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/378840/kananzeb-wedge#manoeuvres=hide&view=brief

I can't wait to get a Ghost so i can try them all!

I don't know about Kyle, the HWK always seems a very fragile ship, i would rather put in an ace or some blockers to support Kanan

Your choice but i see it as a good compliment, the 3rd focus for kanan is enough to cancel at least a quarter of most lists red dice every turn they can combo it, and doesn't make kanans ability near useless if you run into a stressbot/ panic attack. (You can even take the title and load up kyle early to pass on later)
That's a good point, i could try this for a similar effect and a second ship sturdier than a HWK:http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/378987/kananzeb-teketu#manoeuvres=hide&view=brief

Nice! If you're really set on a big ace you could swap out jan for chopper, but one of my bugbears is i dont like self harm cards

Yeah me too, i don't get why would you hurt your most important ship, anyway i was thinking that even if i don't get any actions with the ghost (say because of bumps or stressbots) it's really not that big of a deal: even without actions the ghost is as tanky as a Decimator (even more if you consider the shield to hull ratio) and with the K-Wing list i can still use Teketu's focus tokens.

EDIT: got another idea, how about i swap the dorsal turret and FCS to take an autoblaster turret and accuracy corrector, that makes the ship almost turretless but anything in range 1 of it is gonna take 4 uncancellable damage results a turn (or a 5 dice attack and 2 uncanccelable damage results if it's a low agility ship within the main arcs).

Edited by Agemman

You can do better, field in the Ghost Lando and C3-PO and always guess 0. Then add Kyle Katarn with Jan Ors and you have the most evady VCX ever.

You can do better, field in the Ghost Lando and C3-PO and always guess 0. Then add Kyle Katarn with Jan Ors and you have the most evady VCX ever.

Well i'm not trying to get an evady Ghost and i've already said i don't really like the HWK because of how squishy it is, i don't really want to be too reliant on a squishy ship.

That said C3PO+Lando is a good combo and i would definetely try it but i think i'm better with the 1 point cheaper and much more reliable Jan Ors+Rec. Spec. combo seeing how the pilots ability requires focus tokens.

You can do better, field in the Ghost Lando and C3-PO and always guess 0. Then add Kyle Katarn with Jan Ors and you have the most evady VCX ever.

Well i'm not trying to get an evady Ghost and i've already said i don't really like the HWK because of how squishy it is, i don't really want to be too reliant on a squishy ship.

That said C3PO+Lando is a good combo and i would definetely try it but i think i'm better with the 1 point cheaper and much more reliable Jan Ors+Rec. Spec. combo seeing how the pilots ability requires focus tokens.

You can do better, field in the Ghost Lando and C3-PO and always guess 0. Then add Kyle Katarn with Jan Ors and you have the most evady VCX ever.

Well i'm not trying to get an evady Ghost and i've already said i don't really like the HWK because of how squishy it is, i don't really want to be too reliant on a squishy ship.

That said C3PO+Lando is a good combo and i would definetely try it but i think i'm better with the 1 point cheaper and much more reliable Jan Ors+Rec. Spec. combo seeing how the pilots ability requires focus tokens.

Don't worry I'm pretty sure the first target will be the VCX, it has 0 agility and 4 attacks, who'd want to leave this monster on the table to run after a poor hwk who's staying at range 3?

Still, i would like another ship that can do consistent damage and a TLT is consistent only if you fire it at low agility targets, everything with 3 defense dice and autothrusters or 3 modified defence dice is gonna easily evade that or take a single damage every couple of turns, add to that the awful maneuver dial of the HWK and a fairly hefty price for a ship this squishy and you can see why i'm not a fan. A HWK could work, i'm not saying it's not a good support ship, but it's mostly a dead weight when it comes to actually fight and in my opinion in a 2 ship list you want both of your ships to be good at fighting.

I made another one!http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/378840/kananzeb-wedge#manoeuvres=hide&view=brief

I can't wait to get a Ghost so i can try them all!

I don't know about Kyle, the HWK always seems a very fragile ship, i would rather put in an ace or some blockers to support Kanan

Your choice but i see it as a good compliment, the 3rd focus for kanan is enough to cancel at least a quarter of most lists red dice every turn they can combo it, and doesn't make kanans ability near useless if you run into a stressbot/ panic attack. (You can even take the title and load up kyle early to pass on later)
That's a good point, i could try this for a similar effect and a second ship sturdier than a HWK:http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/378987/kananzeb-teketu#manoeuvres=hide&view=brief
Nice! If you're really set on a big ace you could swap out jan for chopper, but one of my bugbears is i dont like self harm cards

Yeah me too, i don't get why would you hurt your most important ship, anyway i was thinking that even if i don't get any actions with the ghost (say because of bumps or stressbots) it's really not that big of a deal: even without actions the ghost is as tanky as a Decimator (even more if you consider the shield to hull ratio) and with the K-Wing list i can still use Teketu's focus tokens.

EDIT: got another idea, how about i swap the dorsal turret and FCS to take an autoblaster turret and accuracy corrector, that makes the ship almost turretless but anything in range 1 of it is gonna take 4 uncancellable damage results a turn (or a 5 dice attack and 2 uncanccelable damage results if it's a low agility ship within the main arcs).

Edited by Ralgon

You can do better, field in the Ghost Lando and C3-PO and always guess 0. Then add Kyle Katarn with Jan Ors and you have the most evady VCX ever.

Well i'm not trying to get an evady Ghost and i've already said i don't really like the HWK because of how squishy it is, i don't really want to be too reliant on a squishy ship.

That said C3PO+Lando is a good combo and i would definetely try it but i think i'm better with the 1 point cheaper and much more reliable Jan Ors+Rec. Spec. combo seeing how the pilots ability requires focus tokens.

Don't worry I'm pretty sure the first target will be the VCX, it has 0 agility and 4 attacks, who'd want to leave this monster on the table to run after a poor hwk who's staying at range 3?

Still, i would like another ship that can do consistent damage and a TLT is consistent only if you fire it at low agility targets, everything with 3 defense dice and autothrusters or 3 modified defence dice is gonna easily evade that or take a single damage every couple of turns, add to that the awful maneuver dial of the HWK and a fairly hefty price for a ship this squishy and you can see why i'm not a fan. A HWK could work, i'm not saying it's not a good support ship, but it's mostly a dead weight when it comes to actually fight and in my opinion in a 2 ship list you want both of your ships to be good at fighting.
:)

Reminder: C-3PO only works if you actually roll defense dice. If you happen to have zero agility, you don't get to use him unless you're being shot at range 3. So the Lando-3PO build that was proposed is maybe not as good.

Reminder: C-3PO only works if you actually roll defense dice. If you happen to have zero agility, you don't get to use him unless you're being shot at range 3. So the Lando-3PO build that was proposed is maybe not as good.

C3P0 can proc on Lando's ability that's why it was suggested