Could be that Kylo picked up on Finn freaking out through the Force, given it was a very strong emotional reaction (which at least in Legends could be picked up by other Force-sensitives, the psychic equivalent of somebody yelling loudly), and something that was completely out of character for a stormtrooper. He probably sensed it and ascribed it to a "huh, that's not right" type of sensation. It's more likely out of idle curiosity (and a chance to mock Hux about the training program not being quite as perfect as the young General claims) that he looked up who that trooper was, thus learning FN-2187's designation. When Finn went renegade, Kylo made a Force-assisted conclusion about who the stormtrooper helping Poe was, possibly upon the idea of there being no such thing as mere coincidences.

As for Maz handing the lightsaber off to Finn, she knew Han and Chewie would balk at the notion of them using it, as they've got a long-established preference for a heavy blaster pistol and bowcaster respectively. Plus, Finn was probably described as being a close friend of Rey's by Han, so Maz figured that a close friend should hold onto it until the 'saber could be given to the "proper" owner. To say nothing of him not having a weapon, which Han and Chewie already did, so it'd make sense that she'd hand it off to the one guy that was unarmed.

Thus far, all the official material makes zero mention of Finn having any ability with the Force, just that he's well-trained due to his stormtrooper upbringing. In contrast, there's plenty of mentions of Rey being Force-sensitive in the various official material.

Much like Poe, I think having Finn turn out to be Force-sensitive would be something of a cop-out. I'd prefer to see him remain a "muggle" as it were, and instead just simply become a badass soldier that can dish out kill shots like they were going out of style (like he did upon picking up that First Order trooper rifle during the battle at Maz's palace).

I don't think Poe is force sensitive, but Finn is. There are simply so many arguments for it. First, Kylo Ren felt him on Jakku, but didn't give it much thought until! Finn helped Poe to escape. Then he knew precisely who had done it. I would also argue that Maz gave Finn the lightsaber for a reason. Without Rey there, she gave it to the next force sensitive.

It's possible, but I think it's unlikely. Ren, being a dark-sider, probably sensed fear from Finn on Jakku. It's also apparent that Snoke had a group known as the Knights of Ren, of which Kylo Ren is the only survivor. If Finn had been force sensitive, you'd think Snoke would have noticed and had him trained. It's possible he's force sensitive, there's just no real evidence to proof it and a bit of circumstantial evidence against it.

What was the best thing in TFA?

This guy....

The Jedi didn't steal babies they were given babies. Even in Legends there was never a shown case of the prequel era Jedi stealing a baby just a case of a woman giving her baby to the Jedi then deciding she wanted the baby back later. Oh and the non-Force Sensitive Jedi temple clerk who gave his son to the Jedi then was immediately fired so they wouldn't have contact..And the Chancellor was a traitor resisting arrest and with enough legal authority that killing him was pretty much the only way to stop him.

What was the best thing in TFA?

This guy....

Ah yes, the guy that dumped a rifle and shield to engage in melee combat. It's a stupid thing to do, but he makes it cool.

Ah yes, the guy that dumped a rifle and shield to engage in melee combat. It's a stupid thing to do, but he makes it cool.

Well, if he knew that blaster against lightsaber is a bad move (he assumes Finn knew how to use it, I guess), then it actually was a smart move to take a weapon that can block a lightsaber and cannot be deflected back at him.

Finn's skill with a blaster is just training, but I still think it's possible he could be Force sensitive. I'm pretty sure Poe isn't, however, and is just an excellent pilot.

Talos, we don't know anything about the knights of Ren yet (as far as i know) so where do you get the idea that Kylo's the only survivor? Form the way Snoke call him (master of the knights of Ren) it seems there are more knights than just him

Which kinda seems the opposite situation from the PT: instead of 2 Siths against a lot of Jedi, no we have a couple of Jedi against the Knights of Ren (which however could be a smaller group, we don't have an idea of how many there are)

tSpruag, hat's an interesting point, how can the high tech tonfa block the lightsaber and not being cut? did it have some kind of magntic field or forcefield?

tSpruag, hat's an interesting point, how can the high tech tonfa block the lightsaber and not being cut? did it have some kind of magntic field or forcefield?

Umm, yes? Did you not see the crackling electric field surrounding it? Same deal as the electrostaffs the MagnaGuards use.

ah right i did catch it but didn't really register it cause the action was so fast.

Talos, we don't know anything about the knights of Ren yet (as far as i know) so where do you get the idea that Kylo's the only survivor? Form the way Snoke call him (master of the knights of Ren) it seems there are more knights than just him

Which kinda seems the opposite situation from the PT: instead of 2 Siths against a lot of Jedi, no we have a couple of Jedi against the Knights of Ren (which however could be a smaller group, we don't have an idea of how many there are).

Seeing as how Ren is kind of a poser, if he's the boss, I don't think we have much to worry about.

We can finally put the stupid "you will dismember yourself with a lightsaber if you don't have the Force" line of thought in the garbage were it deserves to be be.

Because Finn, who is not a force user at all, fights with one twice and does really **** well with it. He loses both fights, but for someone who has zero training with the weapon, that's to be expected.

So. No more of that nonsense.

I never got this impression to begin with but shouldn't Grievous have ended this thinking years ago?

Talos, we don't know anything about the knights of Ren yet (as far as i know) so where do you get the idea that Kylo's the only survivor? Form the way Snoke call him (master of the knights of Ren) it seems there are more knights than just him

Which kinda seems the opposite situation from the PT: instead of 2 Siths against a lot of Jedi, no we have a couple of Jedi against the Knights of Ren (which however could be a smaller group, we don't have an idea of how many there are)

tSpruag, hat's an interesting point, how can the high tech tonfa block the lightsaber and not being cut? did it have some kind of magntic field or forcefield?

After 3 viewings, I'm pretty sure he said "Last of the knights of Ren".

I'm thinking Luke may have killed them all in when they stormed his academy. I imagine Luke pulled a Bilbo. He had Kylo on the ropes, could have finished the deed, but spared him.

The best thing about Force Awakens is that they've reverted to treating the Jedi as a mysterious legendary order rather than the bloated ineffective bureaucracy it was in the prequels.

Um, that was kind of the whole point of the trilogy. The Jedi order was broken to the point of ineffectiveness and was badly in need of being reconstructed from the ground up.

We can finally put the stupid "you will dismember yourself with a lightsaber if you don't have the Force" line of thought in the garbage were it deserves to be be.

Because Finn, who is not a force user at all, fights with one twice and does really **** well with it. He loses both fights, but for someone who has zero training with the weapon, that's to be expected.

So. No more of that nonsense.

I never got this impression to begin with but shouldn't Grievous have ended this thinking years ago?

If anyone is a bad example of selfdismemberment, then it is Grievous. Obi-Wan blocked his Lightsaber in a way that he lost two of his hands...parts whatever...

Talos, we don't know anything about the knights of Ren yet (as far as i know) so where do you get the idea that Kylo's the only survivor? Form the way Snoke call him (master of the knights of Ren) it seems there are more knights than just him

Which kinda seems the opposite situation from the PT: instead of 2 Siths against a lot of Jedi, no we have a couple of Jedi against the Knights of Ren (which however could be a smaller group, we don't have an idea of how many there are)

tSpruag, hat's an interesting point, how can the high tech tonfa block the lightsaber and not being cut? did it have some kind of magntic field or forcefield?

After 3 viewings, I'm pretty sure he said "Last of the knights of Ren".

I'm thinking Luke may have killed them all in when they stormed his academy. I imagine Luke pulled a Bilbo. He had Kylo on the ropes, could have finished the deed, but spared him.

He says " master of the Knights of Ren". 5 showings plus the novelization text confirms this.

Jim

Talos, we don't know anything about the knights of Ren yet (as far as i know) so where do you get the idea that Kylo's the only survivor? Form the way Snoke call him (master of the knights of Ren) it seems there are more knights than just him

Which kinda seems the opposite situation from the PT: instead of 2 Siths against a lot of Jedi, no we have a couple of Jedi against the Knights of Ren (which however could be a smaller group, we don't have an idea of how many there are)

tSpruag, hat's an interesting point, how can the high tech tonfa block the lightsaber and not being cut? did it have some kind of magntic field or forcefield?

After 3 viewings, I'm pretty sure he said "Last of the knights of Ren".

I'm thinking Luke may have killed them all in when they stormed his academy. I imagine Luke pulled a Bilbo. He had Kylo on the ropes, could have finished the deed, but spared him.

He says " master of the Knights of Ren". 5 showings plus the novelization text confirms this.

Jim

Good catch. I haven't read the novel, yet.

My hearing isn't all that great.

We can finally put the stupid "you will dismember yourself with a lightsaber if you don't have the Force" line of thought in the garbage were it deserves to be be.

Because Finn, who is not a force user at all, fights with one twice and does really **** well with it. He loses both fights, but for someone who has zero training with the weapon, that's to be expected.

So. No more of that nonsense.

I never got this impression to begin with but shouldn't Grievous have ended this thinking years ago?

If anyone is a bad example of selfdismemberment, then it is Grievous. Obi-Wan blocked his Lightsaber in a way that he lost two of his hands...parts whatever...

Then I'm confused. I thought the issue was that people felt just using a lightsabernd at all was dangerous. I don't know if the results of a fight with one of the most powerful Jedi masters should be used as proof of anything. I mean, thinking back on it, Kenobi dismembered lots of people! I think he was only outdone by his own student (who Kenobi also dismembered).

I was referring to the fact that Grievous was gung ho to face Kenobi in a duel, had a collection of Lightsabers from previous fights, and had faced and defeated other jedi masters in duels with them as proof that you don't need to be force sensitive to make effective use of a lightsaber as a weapon.

Talos, we don't know anything about the knights of Ren yet (as far as i know) so where do you get the idea that Kylo's the only survivor? Form the way Snoke call him (master of the knights of Ren) it seems there are more knights than just him

Which kinda seems the opposite situation from the PT: instead of 2 Siths against a lot of Jedi, no we have a couple of Jedi against the Knights of Ren (which however could be a smaller group, we don't have an idea of how many there are)

tSpruag, hat's an interesting point, how can the high tech tonfa block the lightsaber and not being cut? did it have some kind of magntic field or forcefield?

After 3 viewings, I'm pretty sure he said "Last of the knights of Ren".

I'm thinking Luke may have killed them all in when they stormed his academy. I imagine Luke pulled a Bilbo. He had Kylo on the ropes, could have finished the deed, but spared him.

He says " master of the Knights of Ren". 5 showings plus the novelization text confirms this.

Jim

Good catch. I haven't read the novel, yet.

My hearing isn't all that great.

I definitely heard "Master of..."

Only one viewing but I'm blind so I must have hearing superpowers! I can even hear you snickering.

Yeah, the line was "Master of the Knights of Ren," plus the Visual Dictionary makes reference to the KoR as a still-existing group with Kylo as their ringleader.

We can finally put the stupid "you will dismember yourself with a lightsaber if you don't have the Force" line of thought in the garbage were it deserves to be be.

Because Finn, who is not a force user at all, fights with one twice and does really **** well with it. He loses both fights, but for someone who has zero training with the weapon, that's to be expected.

So. No more of that nonsense.

I never got this impression to begin with but shouldn't Grievous have ended this thinking years ago?

If anyone is a bad example of selfdismemberment, then it is Grievous. Obi-Wan blocked his Lightsaber in a way that he lost two of his hands...parts whatever...

Then I'm confused. I thought the issue was that people felt just using a lightsabernd at all was dangerous. I don't know if the results of a fight with one of the most powerful Jedi masters should be used as proof of anything. I mean, thinking back on it, Kenobi dismembered lots of people! I think he was only outdone by his own student (who Kenobi also dismembered).

I was referring to the fact that Grievous was gung ho to face Kenobi in a duel, had a collection of Lightsabers from previous fights, and had faced and defeated other jedi masters in duels with them as proof that you don't need to be force sensitive to make effective use of a lightsaber as a weapon.

A common house rule (that originated with the d6 Star Wars game) was that a botched roll, in this case a Despair, meant that if you didn't have any training in the Lightsaber skill, you were short a limb or at least extremely hurt.

Grievious I always gave a pass to in that regard, mainly because he never fought fair and preferred to soften his opponents up with MagnaGuards and assassin droids before stabbing them in the back. Which he tried to do to Kenobi, which resulted in one of the rare times a Jedi remembered they had the Force when fighting Greivious (which he then forgot about 30 secs later).

The fact of the matter is, that in zero media I've ever seen has a lightsaber been dangerous for the untrained. Sure, you aren't going to reflect blaster bolts with it, but that's because you aren't a force user, training won't help you do that.

Besides, a basic or even fully kitted out lightsaber isn't really that bamf anyway. It's really good, mind you, but not something I'd ever fear a player having.

It was chock full of really great moments on an emotional level. It was also riddled with a bunch of nonsense on an intellectual level. They balance out, though, to make an overall good film. Plus, I don't mind giving it a break since it had a lot of ground to cover to just set the stage for a new cast, and it was clear that everyone involved put their heart and soul into the film.

If I could only pick one scene, I'd have to go with the scene where Starkiller base blasts that beam of energy across space and then split off in five directions. I have no idea what planets were destroyed, and really, I don't even know why. But it sure looked cool. I was completely enamored with how surprised I was at how they took an old concept (Death Star) and legitimately impressed me by cranking it up to a notch that I didn't even think was possible. Taking out five planets on the other side of the galaxy with a single beam of energy with a magnitude that is visible during daylight on a planet light years away? Yeah... that was pretty awesome.

The best overall thing about the movie was just how capable and powerful the new cast is with their acting. I had a feeling they were going to be good, but I had no idea they were going to be that good. All of them were just phenomenal - even the ones with smaller roles. I think John Boyega stole the show, though. That dude is going to be in the leagues with Denzel Washington, Forrest Whitaker, and Sidney Poitier when he gets older. Mark my words.

The best thing about the Force Awakens? More than a few of my friends who previously had no interest in Star Wars are suddenly very excited about the franchise. They loved the new cast and so do I.

I never think about on-screen chemistry, but these guys had it.

What I liked about this movie?

When Finn rescues Poe and takes his helmet off to explain "why" he's rescuing him resulting in them grinning to each other I thought,"This is SO a game I want to run!"

I never got that feeling from Man of Steel, the Star Trek Reboot... heck I've yet to watch either Antman or Age of Ultron but this... is the first movie to make me want to watch it again!

Admittedly I felt they should have kept Poe involved and made Starkiller able to jump to the targeted systems using its recharger to actually be the reason it devastates entire worlds rather than take potshots across the other side of the galaxy!

But I can work with that and this movie is perfectly fine with its flaws, I just hope they can keep this up and demonstrate that someone can do better than the MCU movie franchise!

The best thing?

My dad liked it. He's 70 and he hates literally everything I like, especially Star Wars. He found TFA to be an engaging, humorous and intelligent movie, and caught much of the political setup on his first viewing. My fiance and I both enjoyed how ballsy Disney is to include concepts like terrorism, proxy wars and patricide in a family movie. It bodes well for the future of the franchise when they can include things that are challenging (and troubling) for adults, while managing to maintain an upbeat, kid-friendly vibe throughout. I think that is brilliant. Other people may call this movie 'tame' or 'playing it safe'. I think it's anything but. If this were anything but Star Wars, people would be flipping out over how gruesome this stuff is.