So I was reading the book Before the Awakening, and while Poe is flying for the Republic (before he went to the Resistance) he and his comrades fly T-85 X-Wings, not T-70s.

I asked Pablo Hidalgo about the mention of this ship. (Pablo is one of the main dudes in the LFL Story Group and knows everything about everything.)

So there are two new models of X-Wings. Wonder if we'll ever see the T-85 in this game.

Also no there aren't pictures of it anywhere yet according to Pablo.

Just thought you guys might be interested to know that a T-85 was a thing.

So the black and orange X-Wing Poe flew was a T-70 and the T-85 has not been shown on screen yet.

yeah. We've only seen the T-70 at this point.

I'm hoping people are gunna stop calling it the T85 when it's just a modded T70 with a funky paint job.

Not sure why this annoys me so much?

I'm hoping people are gunna stop calling it the T85 when it's just a modded T70 with a funky paint job.

Not sure why this annoys me so much?

Not sure what you mean. Poe's black and orange ship is a T-70. Pablo said there are no pictures of the T-85 yet.

I'm hoping people are gunna stop calling it the T85 when it's just a modded T70 with a funky paint job.

Not sure why this annoys me so much?

Not sure what you mean. Poe's black and orange ship is a T-70. Pablo said there are no pictures of the T-85 yet.

Edit: I'm agreeing with you

oh that makes sense. wasn't aware people were calling it the 85.

Perhaps there won't be any T-85's. Destroyed with the fleet.

That's Palob Godalhi telling you what's what, that is!

Perhaps there won't be any T-85's. Destroyed with the fleet.

only a small portion will have been destroyed it's the continued existence of star killer base combined with the loss of leadership that would have killed the republic military's never consolidate there entire strength its just not prudent

There's no way that every New Republic starfighter was there at the capital. The T-85 has to show up eventually. Why else would they even bring it up?

I'm hoping that ep8 will have a newer looking Y-Wing as well as a look at a proper 85.

I'm hoping people are gunna stop calling it the T85 when it's just a modded T70 with a funky paint job.

Not sure why this annoys me so much?

Not sure what you mean. Poe's black and orange ship is a T-70. Pablo said there are no pictures of the T-85 yet.

I'm saying that people have been calling it the 85 when it's not and thats been winding me up.

Edit: I'm agreeing with you

Because prior to this all evidence pointed to that being the case. In Before the Awakening the only black X-Wings are the T-85s. As it is we still don't know why Poe didn't use his black and orange T-70 on Jakku.

Edit: No idea why that would wind you up at all. It's perfectly plausible based on the evidence we had available.

Perhaps there won't be any T-85's. Destroyed with the fleet.

only a small portion will have been destroyed it's the continued existence of star killer base combined with the loss of leadership that would have killed the republic military's never consolidate there entire strength its just not prudent

This is a setting that lacks safety rails over bottomless pits. Your argument is invalid.

There's no way that every New Republic starfighter was there at the capital. The T-85 has to show up eventually. Why else would they even bring it up?

Perhaps just to illustrate that the Resistance isn't as well equipped as the Republic.

The Republic did go through major disarmament, so though not likely, it's possible the entirety of their fleet was destroyed.

Perhaps there won't be any T-85's. Destroyed with the fleet.

only a small portion will have been destroyed it's the continued existence of star killer base combined with the loss of leadership that would have killed the republic military's never consolidate there entire strength its just not prudent

This is a setting that lacks safety rails over bottomless pits. Your argument is invalid.

Pretty sure Vader threw him over the railing and then when he falls over he is leaning against it.

Perhaps there won't be any T-85's. Destroyed with the fleet.

only a small portion will have been destroyed it's the continued existence of star killer base combined with the loss of leadership that would have killed the republic military's never consolidate there entire strength its just not prudent

This is a setting that lacks safety rails over bottomless pits. Your argument is invalid.

Pretty sure Vader threw him over the railing and then when he falls over he is leaning against it.

The one room with railings on the whole space station.

Even with a major disarmament, there is no way the entire republic fleet was at hosnian system. It probably wasn't even a significant portion of the fleet destroyed. It probably did destroy a lot of the command however. Which would be a hinderance to the effectiveness of the fleet.

The t-85 confusion comes from wookiepedia where some excited uploaders listed black one as a t-85 before it was clarified that it was like the rest of the fighters a t-70

Perhaps there won't be any T-85's. Destroyed with the fleet.

only a small portion will have been destroyed it's the continued existence of star killer base combined with the loss of leadership that would have killed the republic military's never consolidate there entire strength its just not prudent

This is a setting that lacks safety rails over bottomless pits. Your argument is invalid.

Pretty sure Vader threw him over the railing and then when he falls over he is leaning against it.

The one room with railings on the whole space station.

And of course Poe wasn't flying a TI-85, that's a pocket calculator!

Oh you mean the Income T-85...oops. Yeah we will see some in the next movie I'm sure. Might even be a preview in a comic before then. Maybe they finally put some armor plating on the aft section so they don't get blowed up from behind so easily.

And that may have been the bulk of the fleet at Hosnian Prime, or at least a quarter to a third, the rest of the republic was to rely on their own system and sector fleets for defense. We might see a hodge lodge of ships again in the Resistence when systems start joining up with Leia, just like in the rebel fleet in ESB and ROTJ. And I'm sure some wise guy will say that episode 8 is too much like the OT because of the rag-tag nature of the Resistence fleet. Sigh.

I'm hoping that ep8 will have a newer looking Y-Wing as well as a look at a proper 85.

I'm hoping they actually, you know, design some new ships instead.

Yeah the minimal ships are one of the weak points of the new film. Just not as much there... and it should of been better. This new info sounds like there will be more in the next films so that at least is cool.

Considering how military adverse the republic was, most if the fleet should be out of sight. Far from the capital. So they wouldn't have to be reminded that they still had to have a military.

it's possible the entirety of their fleet was destroyed.

It depends on what you consider to be their fleet.

Mon Mothma wanted to demilitarize the New Republic, and would have maintained a fairly small fleet that belonged to the NR. They did however offer support to members nations to maintain their own fleet and military.

So could all the ships that 'belonged' to the NR be destroyed? Maybe. But it would only be a fairly small % of the total military force the NR could call upon.

I'm hoping that ep8 will have a newer looking Y-Wing as well as a look at a proper 85.

I'm hoping they actually, you know, design some new ships instead.

Yeah, there's a whole alphabet waiting to be used!

Can't wait for the F-wing! It's gonna really f-up the FO!

What I'd say is more likely is that the entire fleet is neutered.

Considering how anti military the NR is, its very possible that all major weapons systems of the fleet require fire-activation - with a part of the fire-activation code coming from the senate. It's likely that this is done for every weapon except defensive weapons, so the fleet has no torpedoes, missles, bombs, turbolasers or anything heavy hitting. It could even be built to be hard coded in the craft, so that its not defeatable without disabling the entire ship.