While watching an episode of Clone Wars, there was a (human) clone who was living with his Twi'lek family. That got me thinking: what species are compatible to result in half-breeds? I figure in a universe as big as Star Wars, there must be some mixed species people out there.

Now, I'm not asking about how to build a half-breed mechanically. I'm asking what mixed species might be available to PCs. Any thoughts?

Star Wars does not have cross breeding (cough thats star trek cough). There are sub species for humans and other races, which give different bonuses.

Star wars has quite a few mixed-species relationships. All of them are explicitly sterile.

Thank God. The inter species weirdness of Trek is something Star Wars can do without.

Star wars has quite a few mixed-species relationships. All of them are explicitly sterile.

Where does that notion come from? i never heard that.

And i'm pretty sure that human and near humans can breed also i guess humans with Zabrak and Twi'leks at least.

Well a little research and this came up http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hybrid

Cross-breeding is a fairly infrequent thing in Star Wars, especially in contrast to Star Trek.

The two species generally have to be very similar in order for it to happen. For the most part, it's limited to Humans and various Near-Human "offshoots" but as with all things, there's bound to be exceptions if the writers think it'd make for a good story. Whether it actually makes for a good story or not is up to the individual viewer.

I never took that family in that episode to be biologically the clone troopers. For starters, those kids were far too old to have been his kids. As for what would be open to PC's ..... none. I don't do mixed species in Star Wars.

It was covered in one of the rogue squad books; even though partnerships sometimes formed between particlar members, they never bore fruit so to speak; vastly different species are sterile to one another. Excluding the 50 shades of human.

I never took that family in that episode to be biologically the clone troopers. For starters, those kids were far too old to have been his kids. As for what would be open to PC's ..... none. I don't do mixed species in Star Wars.

I dissagree. Their colouration is a blotchy mix of his skin coluor and twi'lek colours. Plus Clones have accelerated aging, so it absolutely makes sense they would grow up faster than normal.

Wierdly though, Wookiepedia says that they are NOT his children ("Cut married Suu and adopted her two children"), he has adopted them, but the ARE half twi'lek half human ("Shaeeah Lawquane was a female Twi'lek/Human hybrid").

Personally I suspect they were written as his children originally but later the cannon-masters decided to change it for some reason (maybe the age? can clones even breed?) and changed the offical story. I can't imagine why they'd have made them half-human otherwise.

In terms of hybrids generally, I think Dathomirians (e.g. Asajj Ventris) are all hybirds. It's not super common but hybrids are definately canon in Star Wars.

I never took that family in that episode to be biologically the clone troopers. For starters, those kids were far too old to have been his kids. As for what would be open to PC's ..... none. I don't do mixed species in Star Wars.

I dissagree. Their colouration is a blotchy mix of his skin coluor and twi'lek colours. Plus Clones have accelerated aging, so it absolutely makes sense they would grow up faster than normal.

Wierdly though, Wookiepedia says that they are NOT his children ("Cut married Suu and adopted her two children"), he has adopted them, but the ARE half twi'lek half human ("Shaeeah Lawquane was a female Twi'lek/Human hybrid").

Personally I suspect they were written as his children originally but later the cannon-masters decided to change it for some reason (maybe the age? can clones even breed?) and changed the offical story. I can't imagine why they'd have made them half-human otherwise.

In terms of hybrids generally, I think Dathomirians (e.g. Asajj Ventris) are all hybirds. It's not super common but hybrids are definately canon in Star Wars.

The Clone Wars was at max 2 years. That story takes place somewhere during year 1 of the Clone Wars. There is no way those kids are his and are the age they are.

Edit: It's worth noting the clones had to have their bodies modified to grow fast. They didn't naturally do it. And once the cloning process was done aged normally. There is no reason to think that their kids would age fast with out genetic manipulation.

I second Kael's comment, mostly*. The episode in question, "The Deserter", comes immediately after the Second Battle of Geonosis according to starwars.com , which in turn is listed as late 22 BBY on Wookieepedia. The war started earlier that same year.

* - The Clone Wars lasted ~3 years, from 22 BBY to 19 BBY. Your point still stands, though.

One of the singers in Jabba's palace was mentioned to be, IIRC, a Twi-lek/Human hybrid. But hybrids are pretty rare in general in Star Wars.

This is totally off-topic, and I apologize, but the conversation made me consider it.

Are clones still aging at an accelerated rate in the new canon?

I don't think they are. I think they were rapidly brought to fighting age to participate in the Clone Wars and then their aging sort of tapers off to normal human rates.

Certainly the current season of Rebels supports this.

Kael,

I believe the Clones did still age at an accelerated rate. For instance, you've got Rex in Rebels who looks a lot older than he should for their only being 15 years between TCW and when Rebels is set; guy looks to be in his late 50's or early 60's (albeit in solid shape for somebody that age) rather than the mid to late 30's he should look. And the rest of the Clone Troopers that showed up (Gregor and Wolffe) both look equally aged.

BadMotivator,

That singer was Rystall (the one with bright red hair and spikes), and she wasn't half-Twi'lek, but half-human/half-Theelin. Lyn Me was the Twi'lek singer, and wasn't a half-breed at all.

Hmm, yes, a year does seem too short even for advanced aging. Although I do believe clones continue to age at roughly double human rate, however I think all of that is Legends now so they may have changed it. Then again, Rex seems to confirm that as Donovan says.

I also thought Twi'leks inherited their colour from their parents and the different colours were kind of like sub-species or something, whereas these kids are a mix of colours, so either the people makng this episode were all over the place or there's some needlessly complex backstory behind their heretidge, or that's Legends now and no longer true.

Anyway, getting VERY distracted from the actuall question.

Yes, Hybrids are definately cannon between certain closely related species, we've seen several in the Clone Wars plus there's a whole colony of them in the new Princess Leia comics and as Tassedar said there is a good article about them with a list of known ones and some guidance on what does and doesn't work here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hybrid

I had a player who wanted to play a "defective" clone in one of my games. No matter what the concept, I always ask my player what the species mean to them. For instance, "how do YOU see the Gand" and then we talk and get on the same page..

That episode gave us fits when we were "trying to get on the same page" Its probably the most contradictory episode ever. They look like hybrid children, but you guys are right the ages are all off.. and hybrids are incredibly rare.

So what we settled on was that since the clone had already proven to be defective, maybe whatever sterilization they also undoubtedly undergo, also didn't take.. and due to his messed up weird clone DNA, it was able to adapt to alien physiology (think Jurassic Park). The kids also inherited the accelerated aging of the clones and BAM the fans have once again fixed glaring loopholes in Star Wars lore.

Of course this interpretation is biased cause my player wanted to play an old clone w a fimily who tries to stay outta the war.. they settled on Alderaan. Of course the clone wasn't home when Tarkin pays a visit and joins the Rebellion for revenge... Game never got off the ground but I was going to have an old clone who trains the current stormtroopers, pick up his rifle and demand to fight again in the sector of space that his old squadmate/traitor was known to operate

I never took that family in that episode to be biologically the clone troopers. For starters, those kids were far too old to have been his kids. As for what would be open to PC's ..... none. I don't do mixed species in Star Wars.

I dissagree. Their colouration is a blotchy mix of his skin coluor and twi'lek colours. Plus Clones have accelerated aging, so it absolutely makes sense they would grow up faster than normal.

Wierdly though, Wookiepedia says that they are NOT his children ("Cut married Suu and adopted her two children"), he has adopted them, but the ARE half twi'lek half human ("Shaeeah Lawquane was a female Twi'lek/Human hybrid").

Personally I suspect they were written as his children originally but later the cannon-masters decided to change it for some reason (maybe the age? can clones even breed?) and changed the offical story. I can't imagine why they'd have made them half-human otherwise.

In terms of hybrids generally, I think Dathomirians (e.g. Asajj Ventris) are all hybirds. It's not super common but hybrids are definately canon in Star Wars.

The Clone Wars was at max 2 years. That story takes place somewhere during year 1 of the Clone Wars. There is no way those kids are his and are the age they are.

Edit: It's worth noting the clones had to have their bodies modified to grow fast. They didn't naturally do it. And once the cloning process was done aged normally. There is no reason to think that their kids would age fast with out genetic manipulation.

The youngest one in that picture is probably the clone!

Slightly off-topic, folks in the SW universe don't age well considering the level of medical tech. Kenobi in Episode 4 should be what, mid 50s at most? My hero Sir Alec Guiness unfortunately looked much older. What is a human's life expectancy in SW? For my money, a bacta bath now and again ought to make it 160 or more.

Slightly off-topic, folks in the SW universe don't age well considering the level of medical tech. Kenobi in Episode 4 should be what, mid 50s at most? My hero Sir Alec Guiness unfortunately looked much older. What is a human's life expectancy in SW? For my money, a bacta bath now and again ought to make it 160 or more.

your saying life expectancy, but what kind of quality of life do you want? to me thats the thing. yeah we can replace your organs, get some cybernetics, stay in the same shape for decades after your "prime" youth.

How long can you go on like that before you become, General Grevious? To me, even with fantastic medical tech, a human as we know them are all into old age after their 70s,

On the topic of half breeds, Ive wondered it myself, but if a player ever brings it up, im just going to say no. Simplicity is a virtue

Yeah, in terms of game mechanics, simply pick whichever species is the "dominant" one and use that, with the player spending some of their character XP to pick up a rank in any skills their other species might have.

Or, given that the most of the half-breeds are variations of Humans, just use the Human species template and give them a slightly different appearance. The Saga Edition sourcebook Unknown Regions had a useful chart listing out a number of "near-human" appearance traits that would work pretty well for sussing out what physical appearance quirks a given character has.

Hmm, yes, a year does seem too short even for advanced aging. Although I do believe clones continue to age at roughly double human rate, however I think all of that is Legends now so they may have changed it. Then again, Rex seems to confirm that as Donovan says.

I also thought Twi'leks inherited their colour from their parents and the different colours were kind of like sub-species or something, whereas these kids are a mix of colours, so either the people makng this episode were all over the place or there's some needlessly complex backstory behind their heretidge, or that's Legends now and no longer true.

Anyway, getting VERY distracted from the actuall question.

Yes, Hybrids are definately cannon between certain closely related species, we've seen several in the Clone Wars plus there's a whole colony of them in the new Princess Leia comics and as Tassedar said there is a good article about them with a list of known ones and some guidance on what does and doesn't work here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hybrid

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Hybrids

When using wiki is advisable to check the category page instead of the term. Loads of examples here, especially in the Near-Human Hybrids subcategory.

Yeah, in terms of game mechanics, simply pick whichever species is the "dominant" one and use that, with the player spending some of their character XP to pick up a rank in any skills their other species might have.

Or, given that the most of the half-breeds are variations of Humans, just use the Human species template and give them a slightly different appearance. The Saga Edition sourcebook Unknown Regions had a useful chart listing out a number of "near-human" appearance traits that would work pretty well for sussing out what physical appearance quirks a given character has.

probably what i will suggest in the future

There is just one species you need to know about - Sith. Per Legends, the Sith from the Great Hyperspace War were actually human (dark Jedi)/Sith hybrids initially created with the use of Sith Sorcery/Alchemy but then fertile. There's no reason that a bit of gene tinkering couldn't pop out viable offspring from 2 similar species, or some of the ancient techniques pulled out of the trash bin.