I have some questions that I was a little unclear as to the answers. I hope you can help me out.

1. BB-8's ability gives you a free barrel roll action when you reveal a green maneuver. Do you take this before completing the maneuver? We were taking it after during the action phase, but the wording of the card made me wonder if we were wrong.

2. A stressed ship goes to perform a green maneuver, but ends up bumping another ship in the process. It remains stressed as it did not complete it's maneuver... Correct?

3. While performing a maneuver at the edge of the play area, a portion of it goes off it. Are you safe as long as you end up fully in the play area at the end, or are you toast the moment part of your ship leaves? This one did not actually happen, but it was close and I wondered what the official rule was.

Thanks for the help!

1: Yes, you get the barrel roll before you take the manoeuvre. Same with Advanced Sensors. Also worth noting that if you have BB8/Advanced Sensors and Push the Limit/Experimental Interface, you can get two actions before moving then clear your stress if that manoeuvre is green.

2: No, it removes the stress by doing a green manoeuvre regardless of whether it was completed.

3: As long as the manoeuvre template (NOT the ship during the manoeuvre) stays on the board and the ship is on the board at the end, the ship survives. If either of those things goes off the board, it's toast.

1) You do the barrel roll before the maneuver.

2) Wrong. The maneuever is still green so you still lose stress, even if you didn't go anywhere.

3) Yes, you are safe as long as your final position is fully on the board. It doesn't matter if the template sticks off at all.

If either of those things goes off the board, it's toast.

As was pointed out above, this isn't correct. The template can go off the board, the only thing that matters is the final position of the ship. As long as it ends up completely on the board it's safe. But other then that your answers were spot on.

Free actions are not allowed when you have stress

If either of those things goes off the board, it's toast.

As was pointed out above, this isn't correct. The template can go off the board, the only thing that matters is the final position of the ship. As long as it ends up completely on the board it's safe. But other then that your answers were spot on.

Thanks =) I'll have to remember that, that's not how I was taught!

I disagree on nr 2 btw that you would lose stress if you do not complete your man

page 18 says stress:

When a ship executes a green maneuver, it removes one stress token

look at what is execute a maneuver page 4

activation Phase :

2 Execute Maneuver: resolve the following substeps in order.

A. Move ship.

Slide the maneuver template between the front guides of the ship;s base so that it is flush against the base. then pick up the ship and place it at the opposite end of the template......

then follows B

where it states that green maneuver will remove stress

if you overlap a other ship you will not complete this step A so you won't execute the green maneuver.

there fore i believe you wil not lose your stress

I'll have to remember that, that's not how I was taught!

It's a common issue, people get a number of rules mixed up because it seems to make sense that way.

For example, if having a template cross over an asteroid causes you issues then it would seem logical that having the template cross over the edge of the board would do the same. But in this case that's not true.

if you overlap a other ship you will not complete this step A so you won't execute the green maneuver.

That part of it is trumped by the rules for overlapping a ship. If what you said was true, then when you overlap a ship you'd never finish the maneuver, and the game would simply stop since you could never complete the step you're on.

Then there's this from the FAQ.

Q: If a ship executes a green maneuver and overlaps a ship or obstacle, is one stress token still removed from it?

A: Yes.

thnx that is clear faq is the boss lol

thnx that is clear faq is the boss lol

Similarly, failing to execute a Red maneuver still assigns the stress.

1: Yes, you get the barrel roll before you take the manoeuvre. Same with Advanced Sensors. Also worth noting that if you have BB8/Advanced Sensors and Push the Limit/Experimental Interface, you can get two actions before moving then clear your stress if that manoeuvre is green.

This is incorrect. If you are stressed at the time of revealing your dial, you cannot perform any actions, regardless of the manoeuvre colour. It's only after you've completed the manoeuvre that you check for pilot stress and remove 1 stress token. So BB-8 or Adv Sensors aren't going to be able to do anything if you start your activation with a stress token.

The use of Adv Sensors was illustrated by Paul Heaver at Worlds a year or two ago when he was using B-wings that would take their action with Adv Sensors, and then either K-turn or overlap another ship or asteroid. He was continually getting his actions in before making a manoeuvre that was going to make him skip his Perform Action step.

If either of those things goes off the board, it's toast.

As was pointed out above, this isn't correct. The template can go off the board, the only thing that matters is the final position of the ship. As long as it ends up completely on the board it's safe. But other then that your answers were spot on.

Thanks =) I'll have to remember that, that's not how I was taught!

Then wrong your master was, young Padawan.

1: Yes, you get the barrel roll before you take the manoeuvre. Same with Advanced Sensors. Also worth noting that if you have BB8/Advanced Sensors and Push the Limit/Experimental Interface, you can get two actions before moving then clear your stress if that manoeuvre is green.

This is incorrect. If you are stressed at the time of revealing your dial, you cannot perform any actions, regardless of the manoeuvre colour. It's only after you've completed the manoeuvre that you check for pilot stress and remove 1 stress token. So BB-8 or Adv Sensors aren't going to be able to do anything if you start your activation with a stress token.

Um... Parravon, he was talking about the stress incurred from the PtL or experimental interface that he mentioned was equipped.

Barrel roll with BB8, push to focus, gain a stress, perform green maneuver, clear stress.

1: Yes, you get the barrel roll before you take the manoeuvre. Same with Advanced Sensors. Also worth noting that if you have BB8/Advanced Sensors and Push the Limit/Experimental Interface, you can get two actions before moving then clear your stress if that manoeuvre is green.

This is incorrect. If you are stressed at the time of revealing your dial, you cannot perform any actions, regardless of the manoeuvre colour. It's only after you've completed the manoeuvre that you check for pilot stress and remove 1 stress token. So BB-8 or Adv Sensors aren't going to be able to do anything if you start your activation with a stress token.

Never said they would. If you DON'T start with a stress, however, you can use BB8 or Advanced Sensors with PTL to take two actions then do a green as your manoeuvre to clear the stress.

If you use BB8 to do it, you don't even lose your normal action step so you get three actions for no stress. It makes your movement a bit predictable, but not really that much when you have some combination of barrel roll then boost and movement.

1: Yes, you get the barrel roll before you take the manoeuvre. Same with Advanced Sensors. Also worth noting that if you have BB8/Advanced Sensors and Push the Limit/Experimental Interface, you can get two actions before moving then clear your stress if that manoeuvre is green.

This is incorrect. If you are stressed at the time of revealing your dial, you cannot perform any actions, regardless of the manoeuvre colour. It's only after you've completed the manoeuvre that you check for pilot stress and remove 1 stress token. So BB-8 or Adv Sensors aren't going to be able to do anything if you start your activation with a stress token.

Never said they would. If you DON'T start with a stress, however, you can use BB8 or Advanced Sensors with PTL to take two actions then do a green as your manoeuvre to clear the stress.

If you use BB8 to do it, you don't even lose your normal action step so you get three actions for no stress. It makes your movement a bit predictable, but not really that much when you have some combination of barrel roll then boost and movement.

Sorry, my mistake. I thought you were inferring the activation started with stress. I forgot to factor in the stress picked up from PtL.

Thanks for the clarifications!

Hi guys,

First post here. My group and I had the same question about BB-8's barrel roll ability timing, and we're seeing posts that players are interpreting it to read both before maneuvers and after maneuvers. The only reason I still question this is because on page 12 of the instructions booklet it states,

Since "Perform Action" step is after maneuvers, it seems to indicate that free actions can be used at anytime during that players turn. I'm new to the game, so I'm asking in earnest and just looking for a definitive answer. Thanks in advance!

Hi guys,

First post here. My group and I had the same question about BB-8's barrel roll ability timing, and we're seeing posts that players are interpreting it to read both before maneuvers and after maneuvers. The only reason I still question this is because on page 12 of the instructions booklet it states,

A ship can perform free actions even if it skipped

its “Perform Action” step due to overlapping an

asteroid obstacle or another game effect.

Since "Perform Action" step is after maneuvers, it seems to indicate that free actions can be used at anytime during that players turn. I'm new to the game, so I'm asking in earnest and just looking for a definitive answer. Thanks in advance!

Free actions are the game's term for an action that isn't tied to the Perform Action step, and are instead granted by specific pilot abilities and upgrades. They happen whenever the card in question triggers - so since BB-8's ability triggers "when you reveal a green maneuver," then that's when you perform the free barrel roll action, before you continue with that ships activation and execute the maneuver you just revealed. Other free actions are used at different times, such as the TIE Interceptor pilot Turr Phennir, whose pilot ability allows him to perform a free boost or barrel roll action after he attacks in the Combat Phase.

The Perform Action step is when every ship gets its standard, one action for the turn. Free actions require a card effect to grant them, but they can happen at any point in the round, depending on what the card says.

Pandademic,

Thanks for the response. Your explanation is clear and seems sound to me. We were loosely interpreting the timing of the card but the more I read it the more it seems the intent is to perform it at time of reveal. We'll play by your explanation unless FFG says otherwise in the future. Thanks again