Hi all,

I just returned from watching The Force Awakens and for a split second i'm sure I saw Dengar in Maz's castle.

Has anyone else spotted this or was it my imagination?

VERY Doubtful. Unless he was old as crap. Dengar was an adult during the Clone Wars cartoon. Add 20 years for the Original Trilogy and another 30 for The Force Awakens, on top of the extremely low chance that he would be at that specific cantina in all of the galaxy is just very, very unlikely. (Then again, Luke's lightsaber was there out of all places.)

He was in the back, between the rodian and the duro.

Just kidding. If its classic star wars, its not in Disney's movie. The only thing they took was the plot.

VERY Doubtful. Unless he was old as crap. Dengar was an adult during the Clone Wars cartoon. Add 20 years for the Original Trilogy and another 30 for The Force Awakens, on top of the extremely low chance that he would be at that specific cantina in all of the galaxy is just very, very unlikely. (Then again, Luke's lightsaber was there out of all places.)

Luke's lightsaber that fell down into the depths of cloud city and likely into the atmosphere of a gas giant. Yep, conveniently RIGHT there! (Yeah, I remember that Luuke was cloned from the hand and had the lightsaber, but now that never happened)

VERY Doubtful. Unless he was old as crap. Dengar was an adult during the Clone Wars cartoon. Add 20 years for the Original Trilogy and another 30 for The Force Awakens, on top of the extremely low chance that he would be at that specific cantina in all of the galaxy is just very, very unlikely. (Then again, Luke's lightsaber was there out of all places.)

Hahaha Old as crap like say Han?

VERY Doubtful. Unless he was old as crap. Dengar was an adult during the Clone Wars cartoon. Add 20 years for the Original Trilogy and another 30 for The Force Awakens, on top of the extremely low chance that he would be at that specific cantina in all of the galaxy is just very, very unlikely. (Then again, Luke's lightsaber was there out of all places.)

Hahaha Old as crap like say Han?

Older i would say. He was already an old man during Aftermath interlude featuring him.

VERY Doubtful. Unless he was old as crap. Dengar was an adult during the Clone Wars cartoon. Add 20 years for the Original Trilogy and another 30 for The Force Awakens, on top of the extremely low chance that he would be at that specific cantina in all of the galaxy is just very, very unlikely. (Then again, Luke's lightsaber was there out of all places.)

Luke's lightsaber that fell down into the depths of cloud city and likely into the atmosphere of a gas giant. Yep, conveniently RIGHT there! (Yeah, I remember that Luuke was cloned from the hand and had the lightsaber, but now that never happened)

No evidence it fell out of the cloud city and not just a long way down in to the bowels of the city. It's a story for another time.

VERY Doubtful. Unless he was old as crap. Dengar was an adult during the Clone Wars cartoon. Add 20 years for the Original Trilogy and another 30 for The Force Awakens, on top of the extremely low chance that he would be at that specific cantina in all of the galaxy is just very, very unlikely. (Then again, Luke's lightsaber was there out of all places.)

Hahaha Old as crap like say Han?

Han was a child during the Clone Wars...Dengar was not...thats the point

He's obviously mostly a cyborg and lives forever! Or it's Jodo Kast situation of someone trying to take his look and reputation.

But... this photo shows most of the pirates

Hey, I recognize the Droid on the left!

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VERY Doubtful. Unless he was old as crap. Dengar was an adult during the Clone Wars cartoon. Add 20 years for the Original Trilogy and another 30 for The Force Awakens, on top of the extremely low chance that he would be at that specific cantina in all of the galaxy is just very, very unlikely. (Then again, Luke's lightsaber was there out of all places.)

It's a story for another time.

Conveniently, that's what Maz said in the movie to either postpone or eliminate any need to explain that miracle.

VERY Doubtful. Unless he was old as crap. Dengar was an adult during the Clone Wars cartoon. Add 20 years for the Original Trilogy and another 30 for The Force Awakens, on top of the extremely low chance that he would be at that specific cantina in all of the galaxy is just very, very unlikely. (Then again, Luke's lightsaber was there out of all places.)

It's a story for another time.

Conveniently, that's what Maz said in the movie to either postpone or eliminate any need to explain that miracle.

I do believe that was Toq's main joke there, LOL!

Personally, I LOVE not knowing everything about the movie and the 30 years between. having all of that as ripe soil for new stories while we wait for Episode VIII and IX sounds AWESOME to me!

VERY Doubtful. Unless he was old as crap. Dengar was an adult during the Clone Wars cartoon. Add 20 years for the Original Trilogy and another 30 for The Force Awakens, on top of the extremely low chance that he would be at that specific cantina in all of the galaxy is just very, very unlikely. (Then again, Luke's lightsaber was there out of all places.)

It's a story for another time.

Conveniently, that's what Maz said in the movie to either postpone or eliminate any need to explain that miracle.

I do believe that was Toq's main joke there, LOL!

Personally, I LOVE not knowing everything about the movie and the 30 years between. having all of that as ripe soil for new stories while we wait for Episode VIII and IX sounds AWESOME to me!

Its entirely the whole **** point. But people need to be fed everything nowadays. Instead of learning for themselves or waiting.

Ithorians evolved between episode 4 and 7 so that their mouths were facing foward.

Ithorians evolved between episode 4 and 7 so that their mouths were facing foward.

Best explanation I can come up with (That I hope is true) is TFA takes place on an opposite end of the galaxy from Tatooine, so all the aliens you saw in the Cantina and later on Coruscant aren't really around. Instead, there's distant evolutionary cousins who settled other worlds and so evolved different, like the front mouthed Ithorian and the mega Trandoshan.

If its classic star wars, its not in Disney's movie. The only thing they took was the plot.

I feel like I must be missing something, cos your post makes no sense to me. What about Han, Chewy, Leia, the Falcon, Luke, Vader's helmet, Anakin's Lightsaber, R2, 3PO, crashed ISDs, broken AT-ATs, TIE Fighters, X-Wings and probably other stuff that I've forgotten?

Hang on, I don't want to sound all ignorant here - that was meant to be Anakin's lightsaber that Luke had lost right? It wasn't supposed to be the one Luke made, him having given it up at some point after Jedi?

<needs to rewatch TFA - can't even remember what colour the lightsaber was>

Maybe dengar is too tuff too dead. You think about that?

If its classic star wars, its not in Disney's movie. The only thing they took was the plot.

I feel like I must be missing something, cos your post makes no sense to me. What about Han, Chewy, Leia, the Falcon, Luke, Vader's helmet, Anakin's Lightsaber, R2, 3PO, crashed ISDs, broken AT-ATs, TIE Fighters, X-Wings and probably other stuff that I've forgotten?

I've seen porn parodies with all that too, doesn't make it a Star Wars movie. It makes it a skilled parody, something I've said about this Disney flick from the beginning.

I've seen porn parodies with all that too, doesn't make it a Star Wars movie. It makes it a skilled parody, something I've said about this Disney flick from the beginning.

That's as maybe. It's not what you said though.

If its classic star wars, its not in Disney's movie. The only thing they took was the plot.

Also, I don't think you mean parody. Homage, maybe? Rip off? It's only a parody if they're doing it with humourous intent.

I've seen porn parodies with all that too, doesn't make it a Star Wars movie. It makes it a skilled parody, something I've said about this Disney flick from the beginning.

That's as maybe. It's not what you said though.

If its classic star wars, its not in Disney's movie. The only thing they took was the plot.

Also, I don't think you mean parody. Homage, maybe? Rip off? It's only a parody if they're doing it with humourous intent.

I've called it a parody in other places, I hadn't repeated myself in this particular thread yet.

Parodies achieve their humor in different ways. Even if their intent wasn't humor, I dont think Tommy Wiseau's intent was humor either.

Parody can also be used to mock the original work, which is closer to what the original intent was. Perhaps the movie could more accurately be described as a Burlesque (the word is new to me, but seems accurate based on Wikipedia)?

I've called it a parody in other places, I hadn't repeated myself in this particular thread yet.

Parodies achieve their humor in different ways. Even if their intent wasn't humor, I dont think Tommy Wiseau's intent was humor either.

Parody can also be used to mock the original work, which is closer to what the original intent was. Perhaps the movie could more accurately be described as a Burlesque (the word is new to me, but seems accurate based on Wikipedia)?

Well yes, parody is about mocking the original work, which I'm pretty sure was not Disney or Abram's intent.

I had to look burlesque up (I only knew the word in the sense of striptease/variety acts), but I dunno, still sounds like it requires intention to mock the original work.

If Disney and Abrams didn't hate Star Wars, why would they treat it like an old *****, using it for what they want, and beating it badly in the process. I mean, you look up the definition of "How to mistreat a franchise" and all that comes back is a picture of Han Solo standing on a bridge.

I could just hear the board meeting... "So what should we do with this new movie?" "Doesn't matter, we make a movie that's a dog licking his butt for an hour and these pathetic nerd losers will watch it if we call it star wars." "Ha, these stupid geeks will watch it twice if we just reuse the plot from A New Hope!" "Exactly, now lets put Vader's face on these cheez-its and call it a day! These retarded fanboys are are like printing money!"