Opinions on higher point games?

By darth0fthedead, in Star Wars: Armada

I've been enjoying 500/600 point games with my counterpart since we got a hold of wave 2 and now have little interest in playing down to 400 points ...

Is this me just be greedy or does anyone else feel that the extra 100-200 points makes the game feel more of a fleet action and less, idk ... restricting?

400 feels like a skirmish at this point. i could see 500 to 600. but beyond 800, the mechanics of the game get tedious. and strategy gets rather random, since it takes too long to keep track of minutae like if you added one yaw click if you'd be in one less arc. (cuz theres so many arcs and so many ships.)

For the feel its cool. For a true strategic game? Hell no. Moving one ship at a time also takes FOREVER.

There are some simultaenous versions of this game now, with house rule, id reckon try those for 800 and up.

I played a 900 vs 900 game early on in Wave 1.

Of the 6 players, 4 do not play the game anymore (and stopped pretty much after that game) and the other two of us refuse to play that many points again.

NEVER AGAIN.

Would it be as simple as for games above 500pts, activate 2 ships at a time, and 4sqn at a time

It works well as long as you limit upgrades as you scale up the points you make it so that more and more ships MUST be vanilla.

500-600 point games are fun and one of my friends and I (who got into Armada first) play the occasional big game for fun.

I will warn you that getting used to it makes you a big whiny baby when you need to play at 400 point games for competitive events, though. Therefore it's best as a "sometimes for fun" game rather than a "this is our default game size" game, provided you're interested in normal events.

Ever since I first saw point values for this game I knew I wanted to play much higher point games than the "default".

Haven't actually been able to yet.

I played a 1200 point game last weekend. It was a blast. We both had a good time playing and it never felt tedious. It was a joy to see 3 ISD's, a victory a couple gsd's and a couple raiders out there with a ton of squadrons.

No objectives, no obstacles and we pulled 2 tables together with made a huge 3 by 12 play surface. We only needed the standard sized game surface after all.

600 point games and 750 point games are fairly common for me, and really that's about the level I enjoy playing this game at most. Don't get me wrong, 400 is a nice 'tournament' style game but between 150 and 400 points still feels like a small skirmish, ambush, or TIE fighter (the PC game) scaled scuffle. It's fine, just fine.

I haven't a clue on what other people's experiences are*, so I guess it's all relative. I will add the caveat that I tend to play upgrade light, and my opponents tend to take 'matching' upgrades, or very well established combinations which tends to speed up play time considerably. (I remember playing against a weird and disjointed 'motley' list at 300 points with all the different 'officer fixings', full of aces, titles, dice mulligan bits, the battle took longer than most of my 600 point matches.)

*I'm a 3K+ WFB player; 7 hour long games have been a thing with talking and the like, and I usually clear my schedule for 4 hour of gaming, to which I tend to get 2 matches in.

I played a 900 vs 900 game early on in Wave 1.

Of the 6 players, 4 do not play the game anymore (and stopped pretty much after that game) and the other two of us refuse to play that many points again.

NEVER AGAIN.

Why? Have you never played 4 hour Battlefleet Gothic matches?

Armada is a very top-heavy rules set. It doesn't scale well and easily becomes bogged down at larger points values.

That said, I think 500-600 is the sweet spot. 400 is not enough.

I would not mind a 420pts or 450pts game.

But that is mostly because those two point sizes are when divided by 3, gives a nice round number of 140pts or 150pts for the squadron quata. instaed of the odd 134pts.

Just my two Euro's ;)

I tried an 850 point game. We thought it was fun, but the turns take too long.

I think 400 is best for tournaments, 500 is best for casual play.

I am looking at playing a 2000 point game. Three of each Imperial ship and all the fighters I have. My rebel player is working on his fleet. Right now it looks like it will be 12 ships for me, and 14-16 for him. Some place around 30 fighters each (maybe more).

I have been doing 600 during wave 1.

I like it but, turns are slow more so in squadron phase. I would love to play more 600+ games with someone to find a nice sweet spot for rules. I just installed vassal but, have no idea how to really use it...

I agree that anything under 600 now feels disappointing. As a casual player at the moment adjusting rules lightly helps make larger number games run faster.

My son and I played a 600 point game the other day, no objectives and no obstacles. It took us more than 3 hours to finish the game, but it was a blast. We were both drained by the end of it.

Sometimes the smaller games feel incomplete. We get to the final round and it's just a matter of counting up points, not a clear decisive victory (such as flagship being destroyed) for either of us.

We've considered a larger game, but I foresee my wife and daughter with crossed arms standing in the doorway tapping their feet impatiently as father and son blast away at each others ships. "Aren't you two finished Yet?!?" Maybe we should play in the basement, not the dining room...

I keeping it small and interesting. still playing at 300 points even after Wave 2.

Played a few 500 point games and I prefer them to 400. That 100 points is enough for an extra ship (or two) which makes it seem more like proper fleets.

I'm all for people wanting to play higher point games.

But our group doesn't.

We only meet once a Fortnight, and we've only got 11 to 6 at the 'Box on that Sunday. We need to "share" space with the X-Wing players, which means we need to beat them there and allocate one table to Armada, so they don't end up putting one mat on each of the 3 tables and leaving half of each table empty...

...

With all that, we have our 400 points, as tournament standard, as league standard, just so when you get there, you are guaranteed to have an opponent who has prepared the same level of competition, and is most probably somewhat familiar with at least the idea of their list.

Even if the person you were intending on playing is stuck in traffic, or suddenly sick, etc... You'll get a game at 400 because that's what everyone prepares.