If Asmodee Shuts Down Online Sales, Will You Still Buy?

By Firespray-32, in X-Wing

With Canadian exchange rates and shipping costs, and a decent rewards program,my flgs will continue to be my go to for all my board game needs

Agreed. I save nothing by buying from the US mass discounters and would rather my money stays local. Pay where you play too.

I have a distinct feeling Miniature Market will be okay, so yes.

I think the more relevant question becomes will mm/csi still be able to consistently offer 30% off msrp. That is a much less clear answer.

I have a distinct feeling Miniature Market will be okay, so yes.

I think the more relevant question becomes will mm/csi still be able to consistently offer 30% off msrp. That is a much less clear answer.

This is my main question! If they are able to maintain significant discounts and free shipping, nothing really changes! If they are forced to sell at or near retail, then sales will drop!

That's a good point actually, yeah.

Those sales are a lifesaver.

Mayfair capped any discounts at 20%, so that seems like the benchmark.

I have a distinct feeling Miniature Market will be okay, so yes.

YEAH... they just might be fine. Also Cool Stuff.

Green Maneuvers and suches...

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I've never understood why anyone would care in the slightest about supporting their local stores. As far as I'm concerned if they can't compete then they can't compete, the whole concept of a brick and mortar store is on it's way out anyway, about time people embraced the wonders of internet shopping.

That said, I will buy things at my local store, but that's because I play games there and that's a service I'm willing to pay for. If stores want to stay open then they need to adapt and offer services that the internet can't provide, these strategies are just nonsense and will never work long term. Just look at what happened to GW.

The vast majority of my X-Wing stuff is purchased locally. I would not be affected by the decision.

If they "shut down" online sales I do think that would be a horrible idea. Many people depend on that retail conduit. However, if they decide to limit the amount of discounting allowed... I can see many reasons why that could be a good idea. I can see the other side, too.

With Canadian exchange rates and shipping costs, and a decent rewards program,my flgs will continue to be my go to for all my board game needs

Agreed. I save nothing by buying from the US mass discounters and would rather my money stays local. Pay where you play too.

That's a fair point and I do try to support my local game shop as much as I can but as someone who does not live in the states we have to pay more than the yanks do.

The only way I can be able to buy everything every wave is online, like book depository for an e.g.

With FFG recently putting there prices up, stymying online sails is a d*** move by Asmodee

They're not going to shut down online sales altogether (they've said themselves that they'll authorise a small number of retailers to continue), but I do suspect that the retailers they do authorise will be ones who agree not to go the route of mass discounting.

One of my concerns is actually that of unintended concequences. At the moment, LGSs can't compete on price, and instead have to compete on being friendly, welcoming environments that run events an the like (hence FLGS). If the ability to buy cheaper online is knocked on the head, one of the driving forces keeping the F alive in some of these places will be gone, and for some of the places I've been to over the years I can see the F quickly disappearing. In effect, even if your LGS survives, your FLGS could be gone.

Edited by nekomatafuyu

I buy mostly online. I do not have a FLGS. Though recently a gaming club has opened and I am a full member. And Barnes & Noble has started stocking stuff on the shelf.

But through all of the debate and hate spewed at us online purchasers around here I keep remembering my college days when I did have a FLGS which really wasn't one. It was just a book store that also sold gaming supplies.

The simple fact is I didn't start gaming because I wanted to spend money in the shop. I spent money in the shop because I wanted to play games.

THAT is what is important. Playing.

support your local dealer..... if they don't stock x-wing get them to order it for you.

I've never understood why anyone would care in the slightest about supporting their local stores. As far as I'm concerned if they can't compete then they can't compete, the whole concept of a brick and mortar store is on it's way out anyway, about time people embraced the wonders of internet shopping.

That said, I will buy things at my local store, but that's because I play games there and that's a service I'm willing to pay for. If stores want to stay open then they need to adapt and offer services that the internet can't provide, these strategies are just nonsense and will never work long term. Just look at what happened to GW.

I think a lot of it depends on your local store. Athena Games (my FLGS) offers a great gaming space, custom painted X-Wing boards, snacks and drinks at cheap prices, and generally provide a very welcoming atmosphere. As a result, I'm very keen to support them by buying in store as they're doing a lot to build gaming communities in the local area. There's a lot of effective added value to my purchases.

I've never understood why anyone would care in the slightest about supporting their local stores. As far as I'm concerned if they can't compete then they can't compete, the whole concept of a brick and mortar store is on it's way out anyway, about time people embraced the wonders of internet shopping.

That said, I will buy things at my local store, but that's because I play games there and that's a service I'm willing to pay for. If stores want to stay open then they need to adapt and offer services that the internet can't provide, these strategies are just nonsense and will never work long term. Just look at what happened to GW.

I think a lot of it depends on your local store. Athena Games (my FLGS) offers a great gaming space, custom painted X-Wing boards, snacks and drinks at cheap prices, and generally provide a very welcoming atmosphere. As a result, I'm very keen to support them by buying in store as they're doing a lot to build gaming communities in the local area. There's a lot of effective added value to my purchases.

And that is the kind of service that will survive. I'm not saying *don't* support your local game store, I'm questioning the strange obsession with supporting stores for the sake of it, rather than for the services they provide.

If sky does indeed fall, I'm still going to buy second hand or from dealers. I probably won't buy things on impulse or things I don't intend to use, and most likely skip the epics altogether.

I've never understood why anyone would care in the slightest about supporting their local stores. As far as I'm concerned if they can't compete then they can't compete, the whole concept of a brick and mortar store is on it's way out anyway, about time people embraced the wonders of internet shopping.

That said, I will buy things at my local store, but that's because I play games there and that's a service I'm willing to pay for. If stores want to stay open then they need to adapt and offer services that the internet can't provide, these strategies are just nonsense and will never work long term. Just look at what happened to GW.

I think a lot of it depends on your local store. Athena Games (my FLGS) offers a great gaming space, custom painted X-Wing boards, snacks and drinks at cheap prices, and generally provide a very welcoming atmosphere. As a result, I'm very keen to support them by buying in store as they're doing a lot to build gaming communities in the local area. There's a lot of effective added value to my purchases.

And that is the kind of service that will survive. I'm not saying *don't* support your local game store, I'm questioning the strange obsession with supporting stores for the sake of it, rather than for the services they provide.

The issue is that there is a not so small group of gamers that expect to be able to utilize the services provided by a game store, but don't have any intention of compensating the game store for the service. They want the store to run events and tournaments, but won't buy the game in the store and balk at event pricing that allows the store to actually make any money. It isn't a tenable relationship, but it's one you see exist.

As you said, if you can't compete then you can't compete. As stores come to terms with that they just won't support games that don't make them any money. I don't think it's odd for the company that makes a game to begin to wonder what's going to happen if they have less stores supporting the game and running events, which both drive sales and increase visibility. If they feel that that trend will eventually hurt their ability to sell thier games, it makes sense for them to look for ways to make stores more able to compete. Now there are right and wrong ways to go about that, and we will see which ways are taken, but FFG has an interst in ensuring that stores carry and support thier product because stores allow for a visibility that drives sales in FFGs view.

there are other games out there that will get the attention of my hard earned dollars. Those games will be in no way tied to any property of Asmodee.

I don't play tournaments or anything like that. Does anybody on this forum pay full price for a laptop or desktop? Its the same in electronics and other types of commodities you purchase. If you pay full price for games you need to pay full price for your electronics and other stuff. Since I have a feeling that most people don't pay full price for other commodities why should this be any different?

Since I have a feeling that most people don't pay full price for other commodities why should this be any different?

Last time I checked, I didn't need a 3x3 or larger table to use my laptop. I've also never needed someone else to be there to use my laptop. Finally I've never entered a tournament where winning was based on how well I use my laptop.

Since I have a feeling that most people don't pay full price for other commodities why should this be any different?

Last time I checked, I didn't need a 3x3 or larger table to use my laptop. I've also never needed someone else to be there to use my laptop. Finally I've never entered a tournament where winning was based on how well I use my laptop.

I haven't played on vassel yet either. But I might start if I have to be more cost conscious about my purchases... try before you buy and all that.

I haven't played on vassel yet either.

Vassel is tricky to use, but not too bad once you get the hang of it.

Given I play only at my FLGS and I buy from there too, shutting down online sales will have zero impact on my purchasing or playing habits. So, to answer the OP's question: Yes.

No. Or at the very least at a greatly reduced rate.