breakfast?!

not for me.

the alarm clock rings, I go and make (start) hot coffee, off to the bath. when I'm finished, the coffee is through.

then I have a cup of coffee.

then I wake up , probably have another coffee and am out of the house.

also @bacon for breakfast:

YOU BARBARIANS.

you filthy, bacon for breakfast eating, barbarians.. say.. is it fried in oil only or in butter? *searches for a fork*

I honestly don't see eating meat as "economical" or even sustainable. The amount of space, cost to the environment from everything from greenhouse gas to the amount of water used. We dont see the non monetary cost, because we, as a species on a whole, are not very forward thinking. Clear Cutting rainforest to grow alfalfa to feed your food is, frankly a dumb idea.

If everyone grew a garden in their front yard instead of grass, everyone would save money. My partner does most of this admittedly, whereas i do most of the cooking. It takes 10 minutes a day during the week, and several hours on a saturday for maintenance and harvesting. The setup for the garden cost about 140 dollars all said and done for the entire season. The amount of food I got out of that was at least 10 times the supermarket value.

I had to do a lot of reaearch to have a healthy diet. It took some effort. What I eat is just as nutritious, if not moreso than a average north american meat based diet. It costs less, and the amount of time ot takes me to make Paella is slightly more than waiting in line for mcdonalds at dinner time. It also costs a fraction. My partner has lunch for a week when I make that dish. No meat.

Genetically modifying food - and for clarity, I assume you mean taking certain features of one organism and in a lab, insert them into another, rather than selective beeeding, is a possible dangerous and grey area. We don't know the long term ramifications of artifical genetic modification yet. There has been great progress in "meat"

Grown from muscle tissue in a lab. How to harvest it? A sample is drawn from a needle and grown in a petri dish. A far cry from slicing the throat of a thinking and feeling animal that is terrified because it doesn't want to die.

If people can post about breakfast, i can post my viewpoint on it.

I'm surprised there hasn't been any references to Scott Pilgrim vs The World yet. I'd grab a gif or something myself, but I've already goaded DariusAPB enough with my turkey billboard.

BTW, blueberry bagel with whipped strawberry cream cheese and a Mountain Dew Kickstart for breakfast.

Hence the link about the vegetarian I posted, and hence my life rule that everytime someone tells me to not do something.. I gotta do it harder.

"Honey, I was going to play X-wing but there were a bunch of vegans on the forum: now come over here and help me grind this sausage."

I love this place.

European Sausage - another reason not to be vegan.

I spend too much time being a responsible adult, so when I get an opportunity not to I take it every time.

Also, Bacon can be for any meal Kelvin. Any meal.

I have it on my bagels (sundried tomato, toasted with cream cheese).

I have it sometimes for lunch in a bap with chopped sausages.

I have it sometimes for supper with a burger or sub, or if I'm making a nominally vegan Hungarian Bean soup, I have little bacon bits diced with polish coil or Hungarian kabanos.

Breakfast this morning was an apple. running late.

Ok, Blasted. What about fish? Not enough neurons typically to be that afraid. I'm not a lobster fan myself (because I think they are adorable, I had a pet crayfish once, he ROCKED!) I mean we know that plants send alarm signals when attacked (of sorts) so you know, aren't you murdering plants?

And to be Vegan means giving up cheese. To me that is a flat no. It's not even a mmm kinda sorta mmm yeah can give that up. It's a no. complete, total, no. Old cheddar, applewood smoked, bavarian smoked gouda. Never gonna give that up. Utter dealbreaker.

And cream/dairy based foods. Cheesecake, baileys, baileys cheesecake. Having milk in my tea... Almond or Soy milk is NOT the same.

Note: If I were an Anne rice style Vampire, or werewolf, not this (insert MANY derogatory and inflammatory remarks here) Twilight (more derision not safe for consumption). Then humans would totally be on the menu. Food chain.

European Sausage

French? Italian? Spanish? German? English? Dutch? What region of what country?

European Sausage

French? Italian? Spanish? German? English? Dutch? What region of what country?

I said European for a reason.

I love Spanish Chorizo, Polish Kabanas and coil, a variety of cured hard German sausages, and grew up on English bangers. Used to get Dutch and French from a Bordeux Hypermarche FANTASTIC!

Hungarian sausage is good too, high in paprika.

As you may note, With my love of wines, cheeses and sausage. Despite my (mock) disdain for the French I consider myself a Europhile.

Speaking of cheeses (noting that I've lived in canada for 8 years). The local superstore stocks a brand of cheese called Snowdonia (named for the region of wales which I am VERY fond of, and where it's made). Really good strong extra old cheddar wheels. Ahmazing.

Also from same store: Thick sliced cherrywood Ham, Now I like Black forest, but cherrywood blows it away.

Gad Dammit Dagonet, I'm hungry now.

On another subject: Who likes gummies? You know, gummi sweets, gelatin based treats? Delicious, right?

Also, who here has a pet cat or dog? Feed them healthy wet dog/catfood not just kibble all the time I hope.

You all ruined this thread. #disappointed

Not a fan of european foods?

I thought this thread would show two YTs with the heading "Pancakes!"

I'd like to take a moment to address these concerns about the sustainability of an omnivorous diet which man has enjoyed since the dawn of time. How much is the alternative? No matter what you say you cannot replace muscle tissue with vitamin supplements and protein replacements. Yet these are exactly what you need to be completely vegetarian. Sure you might have a healthy diet yourself and that's great, but don't kid yourself about the other alternatives. Someone is selling you something and you're buying. Environmentalism is great, but it's been hijacked by High Street and it's a damned shame.

I'll tell you what, I grew up on a farm and if there is one thing that's you want to avoid as a crop farmer, it's crop stagnation. The droughts of the depression era were largely attributed to clear cut farming practices, and the over use of certain crops. What happens when you grow one type of crop in an area is you drain all those nutrients out of that area and replace them with only a certain amount of other nutrients. The left-over biomass from your harvest is what fertilizes the soil, so when you go even one or two years growing something like rapeseed in one field, you're actually doing significant harm to a rather large swathe of land. The only way to balance this out is crop diversity, a field of rapeseed might not again grow that plant until 3 or 4 years later! So what happens when 8 years down the road your land needs a recharge? You've planted six different seeds out there and now it's going barren. So what do you do? You let it to pasture and put your herd out there for a few years. Even a small herd of only 50-60 head can make a lot of fertilizer. Maybe even in as little as two years that field will be ready to plant again. This is why family farms used to be so diverse, it's a system of interdependence. One facet of production helps another, a little cash from eggs goes towards the vet bills, and maybe you get to eat beef for cost and you have big garden so your grocery bill can go towards the fuel bill...

You see what I'm getting at here. It's a system, and it works. Or it used to, until everyone moved to the city. Now we've got all these people who have never wrestled a calf in their life, or even eaten a dirty carrot, and they think they know how to fix the world. Well I'm sorry but changing the way humans work isn't going to have very positive effects on society, but tell that to the Industrial Revolution amirite? And see, this is where the real problem lies. It's not that eating meat isn't sustainable, or that veganism is idealistic. It's not even about food at all. It's about the values we place on things in this world and what we are willing to do to uphold them. Look, this planet might not have it all, but it's got a lot. Far more than we could ever need. We have the science, and the capacity, I think, to do what needs to be done in the future. Profit. Power. We need to abandon these notions and look at our lives not as a competition to attain happiness or success, but as little cogs. Each one of us is a wheel in motion, and if we all worked together we could actually fly X-Wings one day. But how do we do that? How do we get to that level? Well, by recognizing when a lemming distraction is put in front of us, like sexuality or beliefs. Here's a hint guys and girls, that stuff doesn't matter a hot ****. It's all subjective and depends on the person. These things get fanned into issues by the media so that we fight each other and perpetuate this cycle of hatred and profiteering. We play right into it every time. Now what about sustainable food you say? Well that's just a big a sham as human rights conflicts. Why the hell are you gonna pay $5 for an Avocado? That's criminal. An extra $10 at the till all because your food was made "naturally"? You know that is a pile of hype right there right? ANd let's pretend for a moment that organic food is actually any different, or that GMOs are safe and sustainable, then what? Farming in the world today is going extinct and it's thanks in no small part to this attitude of green living. We see more and more conglomerate farms, with industrial backing, and what do they grow? Corn. Corn and corn. Oh and they grown corn. Some grow GMOs of other varieties, but even then it's apples and apples. What does this mega farm grow? Strawberries all year round so that you can have dessert all year round. And don't get me wrong they do it with animals too, and that's worse. But the reality of it is that food production in this country, and in the US, is now controlled by a handful of privately owned firms and the family farm is extinct. That is a direct result of the green movement, that's a direct result of government regulation with that goal in mind. We have been duped again by our democratic governments into following a predetermined course, environmentalism is a cash cow that sells recycled sunglasses to beautiful women while society heaps praise on the anorexic.

You know while we're down here fighting each other because of skin colour or creed, or diet, there is a big fat cat - a big fat bastard of a cat you know it! - and he's lounging and purrin' and living in a goddamn sacrilegious amount of comfort. That big ***** is lapping up all the milk while we sit here and complain. So why don't we forget about who is right and who is wrong (it's a boring conversation anyway) and start thinking about how we can get some of that milk back?

If people can post about breakfast, i can post my viewpoint on it.

Then please, go ahead, do so. What is your viewpoint on breakfast?

That's the great thing though, we all have our viewpoints and we can all extol them.

Speaking of which...

I'm gonna have cold pizza!

See I could never do that, I at least have to re-heat the pizza.

Not a fan of cold curry or warm beer either.

There is a beer in there too...

See cold pizza, that, for me is the true measure of good pizza. Oh sure, anyone can sluff off a 350 degree cheese melty topping fest, that's hard to muck up. But when that pizza gets cold? How does the cheese solidify? Are the juices stable enough to not separate in the fridge? Is it too juicy? That can affect the crust and how it performs under colder temperatures, and how about that crust anyways? Is it well formed? Is it too chewy or doughy? Does it soak up all the sauce or does it leaves that thin patina of flavourful tomato sauce?

A cold pizza slice can tell you many things about a pizza as a whole, in both states of existence. You can obviously tell how good a pizza is cold, when it's cold, but you can also tell how good that pizza was when it was hot too! That's the amazing this about Pizza Science, it's such a new and undiscovered field! I mean, people think they know Pizza Science, Papa Johns, Lil Caesars, Papa Caesars, Lil Poppas, they all think they know Pizza Science. But they are wrong. A Greek Restaurantuer once told me "They are wrong. Listen to me, I will tell you the correct way, then I will show you all the ways that are wrong when you do them." And he did. Now I know Pizza Science. And it took a very long time, but now, mark my words friends, vegetarian and meat-lovers alike, I can make you a pizza that will satisfy, NOT ONLY WHEN HOT... But when cold as well.

I can show you a pizza slice before undreamed of, an unremembered lore! I can show you the way.

... Just take that plate out of the microwave and your journey begins.

There is a beer in there too...

See cold pizza, that, for me is the true measure of good pizza. Oh sure, anyone can sluff off a 350 degree cheese melty topping fest, that's hard to muck up. But when that pizza gets cold? How does the cheese solidify? Are the juices stable enough to not separate in the fridge? Is it too juicy? That can affect the crust and how it performs under colder temperatures, and how about that crust anyways? Is it well formed? Is it too chewy or doughy? Does it soak up all the sauce or does it leaves that thin patina of flavourful tomato sauce?

A cold pizza slice can tell you many things about a pizza as a whole, in both states of existence. You can obviously tell how good a pizza is cold, when it's cold, but you can also tell how good that pizza was when it was hot too! That's the amazing this about Pizza Science, it's such a new and undiscovered field! I mean, people think they know Pizza Science, Papa Johns, Lil Caesars, Papa Caesars, Lil Poppas, they all think they know Pizza Science. But they are wrong. A Greek Restaurantuer once told me "They are wrong. Listen to me, I will tell you the correct way, then I will show you all the ways that are wrong when you do them." And he did. Now I know Pizza Science. And it took a very long time, but now, mark my words friends, vegetarian and meat-lovers alike, I can make you a pizza that will satisfy, NOT ONLY WHEN HOT... But when cold as well.

I can show you a pizza slice before undreamed of, an unremembered lore! I can show you the way.

... Just take that plate out of the microwave and your journey begins.

I do not have the words, they should send a poet...

There is a beer in there too...

See cold pizza, that, for me is the true measure of good pizza. Oh sure, anyone can sluff off a 350 degree cheese melty topping fest, that's hard to muck up. But when that pizza gets cold? How does the cheese solidify? Are the juices stable enough to not separate in the fridge? Is it too juicy? That can affect the crust and how it performs under colder temperatures, and how about that crust anyways? Is it well formed? Is it too chewy or doughy? Does it soak up all the sauce or does it leaves that thin patina of flavourful tomato sauce?

A cold pizza slice can tell you many things about a pizza as a whole, in both states of existence. You can obviously tell how good a pizza is cold, when it's cold, but you can also tell how good that pizza was when it was hot too! That's the amazing this about Pizza Science, it's such a new and undiscovered field! I mean, people think they know Pizza Science, Papa Johns, Lil Caesars, Papa Caesars, Lil Poppas, they all think they know Pizza Science. But they are wrong. A Greek Restaurantuer once told me "They are wrong. Listen to me, I will tell you the correct way, then I will show you all the ways that are wrong when you do them." And he did. Now I know Pizza Science. And it took a very long time, but now, mark my words friends, vegetarian and meat-lovers alike, I can make you a pizza that will satisfy, NOT ONLY WHEN HOT... But when cold as well.

I can show you a pizza slice before undreamed of, an unremembered lore! I can show you the way.

... Just take that plate out of the microwave and your journey begins.

Gad Damns... Now I need to have some nice cheddar cheese toast all in de'oven right like.

Cheddar grills so **** well in a sandwich maker!!! Monterey works for grilling too in a pinch.

Yup!

Brie, Bacon and Cranberry Panini.

Oh yes. Oh yes.

Today Grilled cheese sandwich, fairly light but xmas eve pot luck at work...

Ok, Blasted. What about fish? Not enough neurons typically to be that afraid. I'm not a lobster fan myself (because I think they are adorable, I had a pet crayfish once, he ROCKED!) I mean we know that plants send alarm signals when attacked (of sorts) so you know, aren't you murdering plants?

Sigh. This. This is my problem.

I love lobsters and definitely think they are adorable too; in fact I remember when my family would go to Maine on holiday we would play with them and walk them around the deck. Good times.

My problem is that I love them the other way too... I can't help it! They're so delicious!

Why must we eat the things we love?

Note: If I were an Anne rice style Vampire, or werewolf, not this (insert MANY derogatory and inflammatory remarks here) Twilight (more derision not safe for consumption). Then humans would totally be on the menu. Food chain.

(This takes "why must we eat the things we love" to a new level.

"Look, buddy: It's not you; it's me, really. But let's be honest: you decided to walk down that dark alley way by yourself, and let's face it: you're delicious. No, I'm not going to change my mind, and yes, I have thought it over. Now stop squirming so I can eat you before the sun comes up! )

(Oh, and Merry Christmas! )

See, too salty for me. So i'll just stick to adoring them the other way.

But if they were not too salty, yeah would eat them. It's literally a matter of taste.