I think that we on the forums need to be more proactive in moderating as well though:

1. If someone posts something inflammatory or starts spamming posts, as hard as it is we as a forum community should ignore the post and the person responsible for it. If you look at the posts a certain member made that has alot of people upset, the member posted about 3-4 times on each post, the other 100 post are all from other members. By posting instead of ignoring that member it a) takes us away from why we are all really here, to talk x-wing or star wars in general and B) keeps the troll post front and center on the forum boards.

2. If someone posts something to the point where it can't be ignored then report the post. Sure moderators should be watching the forum, but its also on us to make them aware of people abusing the forum. If your house was on fire would you not call the fire department because you think they should be able to see the blaze themselves or that a neighbor will probably call?

3. Let's not let one person bring this forum down, lets get back to talking about x-wing and Star Wars and leave the negativity behind us!

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

I think that we on the forums need to be more proactive in moderating as well though:

1. If someone posts something inflammatory or starts spamming posts, as hard as it is we as a forum community should ignore the post and the person responsible for it. If you look at the posts a certain member made that has alot of people upset, the member posted about 3-4 times on each post, the other 100 post are all from other members. By posting instead of ignoring that member it a) takes us away from why we are all really here, to talk x-wing or star wars in general and B) keeps the troll post front and center on the forum boards.

2. If someone posts something to the point where it can't be ignored then report the post. Sure moderators should be watching the forum, but its also on us to make them aware of people abusing the forum. If your house was on fire would you not call the fire department because you think they should be able to see the blaze themselves or that a neighbor will probably call?

3. Let's not let one person bring this forum down, lets get back to talking about x-wing and Star Wars and leave the negativity behind us!

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Alan Moore.

Or Rorschach.

Or V.

I think that we on the forums need to be more proactive in moderating as well though:

1. If someone posts something inflammatory or starts spamming posts, as hard as it is we as a forum community should ignore the post and the person responsible for it. If you look at the posts a certain member made that has alot of people upset, the member posted about 3-4 times on each post, the other 100 post are all from other members. By posting instead of ignoring that member it a) takes us away from why we are all really here, to talk x-wing or star wars in general and B) keeps the troll post front and center on the forum boards.

2. If someone posts something to the point where it can't be ignored then report the post. Sure moderators should be watching the forum, but its also on us to make them aware of people abusing the forum. If your house was on fire would you not call the fire department because you think they should be able to see the blaze themselves or that a neighbor will probably call?

3. Let's not let one person bring this forum down, lets get back to talking about x-wing and Star Wars and leave the negativity behind us!

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

No one, if we can all act like responsible adults.

None of whom answered the question.

Cheers

Baaa

No one, if we can all act like responsible adults.

I do admire your optimism.

However, my wife has for the last 20 odd years tried to get me to act in said manner.

She has, thus far, failed.

Miserably.

Cheers

Baaa

I think that we on the forums need to be more proactive in moderating as well though:

1. If someone posts something inflammatory or starts spamming posts, as hard as it is we as a forum community should ignore the post and the person responsible for it. If you look at the posts a certain member made that has alot of people upset, the member posted about 3-4 times on each post, the other 100 post are all from other members. By posting instead of ignoring that member it a) takes us away from why we are all really here, to talk x-wing or star wars in general and B) keeps the troll post front and center on the forum boards.

2. If someone posts something to the point where it can't be ignored then report the post. Sure moderators should be watching the forum, but its also on us to make them aware of people abusing the forum. If your house was on fire would you not call the fire department because you think they should be able to see the blaze themselves or that a neighbor will probably call?

3. Let's not let one person bring this forum down, lets get back to talking about x-wing and Star Wars and leave the negativity behind us!

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

A fair and great philosophical question that has yet to be answered baaa. I guess my semi-answer (which doesn't mean much) would be society as a whole (or in this case the forum members). Does it answer the question? No it doesn't, but that's as close as I think u can get.

The last game I played had official forums. The mods there were abusive and overbearing. The community fled to a player run forum that had no censor but refused to put up with trolls and the like. It worked very well and was a great place to be until the game died.

Responsible light-handed moderation is always needed. Devs posting now and then would be awesome too. Imagine if they perused the rules subforum semi-regularly.

But if the guards aren't guarding, the prisoners may riot.

Report button is your friend. Use it often. I encourage others to do the same.

I got a warning post a year ago for something i posted. Does that now make me the white Tiger or the black Sheep on the Forum? It was by FFGEvan i think. But i was able to write him and it got taken away since there was a misunderstanding iirc.

I believe it had something to do with limiting the rights of TOs because the discussion had come up that there were some TOs that let their friends win tournaments by deliberately taking incorrect rules decisions whenever a judge was required in matches involving their "clique". And no one could do anything about it in these local tournaments as it seemed.

So yes, these forums are moderated, but not a lot.

By the way, i think that people are pretty civilized on this particular forum in general. It's not like for example in Youtube comments or on some other game forums where no matter what you write, two posts later someone calls you names for it XD. And if these forums were not correctly moderated like Baa says, that would just speak for the community. Not that there are no arguments, but they are relatively civilized in most cases.

I would also suggest to make a sort of "wall of shame" topic that could get pinned where people could put really vulgar or offensive posts that they find in the forum to. Just to make this behaviour visible and to discourage it, so it becomes even rarer.

Not instead of reporting but as an addition to it of course.

Visible moderators, who are part of the community, would do a lot to take away the need of any actual moderating.

Im speaking as a prior Community Manager; when a user drops a public rant about "Free Market Woes (e.g. Cant Afford Crap)," and you get 6-10 pages of concern trolling, feeder trolling, and counter trolling... you sometimes opt NOT to lock the thread and instead compile a list of all the "Miscreant Actors (e.g. Pot Stirrers)."

Occasionally there is much more to be learned from inaction than kneejerk reaction.

My point is this: Don't jump to the conclusion that moderation isn't happening just because Threads you want locked/removed aren't being addressed to your satisfaction.

I wrote a post in on related thread a long time ago stating that this bord may go downhill since lots of threads were becoming off-topic after some discussion or just members personal playgrounds. I kind of learned to avoid certain writers and my interest has since dropped a lot. Thus, Ihave read this forum very irregularly now.

Back then, some responses were rather fierce. Given the background, I find it amusing that now some "less nice" members request moderator help. But I do agree with OP, it's just that maybe tighter moderator opportunity has already passed.

Im speaking as a prior Community Manager; when a user drops a public rant about "Free Market Woes (e.g. Cant Afford Crap)," and you get 6-10 pages of concern trolling, feeder trolling, and counter trolling... you sometimes opt NOT to lock the thread and instead compile a list of all the "Miscreant Actors (e.g. Pot Stirrers)."

Occasionally there is much more to be learned from inaction than kneejerk reaction.

My point is this: Don't jump to the conclusion that moderation isn't happening just because Threads you want locked/removed aren't being addressed to your satisfaction.

Speaking as the same, while it sometimes may be useful to lance the boil, the way the community is not being managed is only setting it up for more problems.

Simply moving all the movie threads to the off topic section where they belong, listbuilding to that forum and taking care of a few rules questions would show that the board is taken care of.

Is it that bad though? Compared to pretty much every other board I frequent, this one seems pretty civilized. Which threads in particular are you complaining about?

Is it that bad though? Compared to pretty much every other board I frequent, this one seems pretty civilized. Which threads in particular are you complaining about?

All of ColonelGeneralVatutin's threads and possibly my response to them. Going farther back there were the inclusiveness threads, although in the mods' defence those things were literally the entire first two pages of topics at one point so actually curbing it would be difficult.

As I said, those threads were some time a go, and I could't even find the thread where I wrote my post. It may not be that bad you are right but I am active in other forums that are more friendly. BGG for example.

I know someone that was banned last week in real life. They definitely are around.

Generally they are hands off though. You need to do your part and report posts that are not in good faith, or violate board rules.

Perhaps they should be more "hands on"?

Cheers

Baaa

Basically any other place.

I know someone that was banned last week in real life. They definitely are around.

Generally they are hands off though. You need to do your part and report posts that are not in good faith, or violate board rules.

Perhaps they should be more "hands on"?

Cheers

Baaa

That kind of thinking turned a slave boy into a monster and a Republic into an Empire.

And who was watching the Jedi?

The audience!

The audience!

yeah.. sadly we were. stood idly by instead of doing something..

like standing up and leaving with the comment "george, you can do better than this.."

You can, you know, just ignore what you don't like or agree with. It will only affect you if you choose it to.

You can, you know, just ignore what you don't like or agree with. It will only affect you if you choose it to.

That is of course not really true. If the forum gets run over by this kind of inanery it would pretty much end the viability of this communtiy.

I've seen it happen before, in fact it is killing the largest forum in Europe right now, I expect 2016 will be the last year for that site.

They do more moderate. Ffg Evan does a lot of it.

Since when?

Looking at the dross that's on the front page of the boards (and beyond); does FFGEvan even deign to get their ass into gear?

Cheers

Baaa

Since forever. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not happening.

Then my old fat ass must be a helluva lot quicker than what I'm seeing.

Perceptions or opinions aside, do you believe that some of the vitriol that is gracing these boards is acceptable? Me and thee have had our differences; but it's getting a wee bit over the top don't you think?

Cheers

Baaa

Some of it is completely unacceptable. This is what the report button is for. I use this and the ignore function regularly.

What's the problem? Have you been reporting posts? Just because some posts something you don't like doesn't means the post violated the terms of service agreement.

I've never reported a post; nor have I ever ignored a member.

The problem is; is that these here boards aren't moderated properly.

Cheers

Baaa

You know that reporting posts is the manner in which posters are suppose to alert moderators to content they feel is violating the forum rules, don't you?

You can, you know, just ignore what you don't like or agree with. It will only affect you if you choose it to.

That is of course not really true. If the forum gets run over by this kind of inanery it would pretty much end the viability of this communtiy.

I've seen it happen before, in fact it is killing the largest forum in Europe right now, I expect 2016 will be the last year for thati site.

It works for me and others who regularly use the ignore function on this forum. How is it going to kill the community? If might kill the whiners too, and if that happens, all the better.